https://www.kcra.com/article/californias-ban-on-big-rigs-and-buses-made-before-2010-goes-into-effect-in-january/42357986
Quote from: Dave5Cs on December 30, 2022, 05:53:01 AM
https://www.kcra.com/article/californias-ban-on-big-rigs-and-buses-made-before-2010-goes-into-effect-in-january/42357986
Just a matter of time before they get the older bus conversions and RV's .A friend in NM sold a low mileage truck 2003 model and had to buy it back because CA would not register anything older than a 2005 model
So basically, forget about moving goods into or out of California for the foreseeable future.
Jim
Quote from: Jim Blackwood on December 30, 2022, 06:25:22 AM
So basically, forget about moving goods into or out of California for the foreseeable future.
Jim
That is the way it reads nothing older than 2010 most truckers running in and out of Ca don't run 15-year-old trucks anyways;the law will hurt in state truckers mostly,I have seen a lot of the older truck being piggy back out of the state at Neddles Ca lately and some buses on lo-buoys headed east
Hasn't actually started yet and Arnold was the first to try it years ago when he was governor. Now that Newsome is there he is trying all kinds of stuff so he thinks he will run for the big office next??????
Quote from: Dave5Cs on December 30, 2022, 06:37:24 AM
Hasn't actually started yet and Arnold was the first to try it years ago when he was governor. Not that Newsome is there he is trying all kinds of stuff so he thinks he will run for the big office next??????
Newsome is closing the door now with all his BS ,a house goes up for sale here now and we get people from CA bidding on the place.it's crazy our friend down the street sold his place for double the price he was asking for 6 months ago.I am putting this place up for sale maybe,I am getting tired of leasing the place from the tax man anyways
As I understand, the CARB rule does not apply to personal vehicles, just government and corporate vehicles. Of course, are all of the schools and government entities going to be in compliance? There are a lot of dump trucks and water tenders that are very old - might be just enough to upend the road construction industry for a while...typical CA
My 1985 Kenworth cabover motorhome is a good example. One of the mechanics in California that worked on my truck had an identical truck conversion. But the big difference his was registered as an "recreational vehicle, or RV" and DMV refused registration. But mine was registered as a "Motorhome or MH" and had no problem getting registered. It's all in the wording. Course now being in Idaho, they don't care. It is so nice to see trucks smoking with open exhausts!
Good Luck, TomC
Quote from: TomC on December 30, 2022, 01:00:09 PM
My 1985 Kenworth cabover motorhome is a good example. One of the mechanics in California that worked on my truck had an identical truck conversion. But the big difference his was registered as an "recreational vehicle, or RV" and DMV refused registration. But mine was registered as a "Motorhome or MH" and had no problem getting registered. It's all in the wording. Course now being in Idaho, they don't care. It is so nice to see trucks smoking with open exhausts!
Good Luck, TomC
You see a lot of smoke during potato and sugar beet season in Idaho ,then trucks pulling double trailers with a 150,000 lbs of potatoes or beets headed for Nampa those haulers don't even stop at a weight station during harvest time.How are you liking the four seasons of Idaho ? I loved 3 of the seasons, some winters can be brutal in the Treasure Valley that I didn't care for
I say get out. Let California fall on it's face, get it over with already. I wouldn't go there anymore for anything just my little boycott. It's a beautiful state but run by absolute idiot's for many years now but I'm guessing the voter's must have got what they wanted right.
https://www.dailynews.com/2022/11/09/businesses-keep-on-leaving-california/
Quote from: tr206 on December 30, 2022, 05:41:34 PM
I say get out. Let California fall on it's face, get it over with already. I wouldn't go there anymore for anything just my little boycott. It's a beautiful state but run by absolute idiot's for many years now but I'm guessing the voter's must have got what they wanted right.
https://www.dailynews.com/2022/11/09/businesses-keep-on-leaving-california/
It would be a better state again if some would just leave... IMO
Quote from: tr206 on December 30, 2022, 05:41:34 PM
I say get out. Let California fall on it's face, get it over with already. I wouldn't go there anymore for anything just my little boycott. It's a beautiful state but run by absolute idiot's for many years now but I'm guessing the voter's must have got what they wanted right.
https://www.dailynews.com/2022/11/09/businesses-keep-on-leaving-california/
You are not going to completely boycott California it is the breadbasket for the US,with out Ca grocery stores shelfs would be empty ,Newsome may be working on that though
You see the results when a state is controlled totally by one political party for years. Can be just as bad if controlled by opposing party for that length of time. Things will change eventually. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
I recall when Reagan cut the approved budget in Ca by a 1/2 billion dollars and thought state employees weren't initialed to the huge cost of living increases the house passed since the rest of Americans were dealing with hard times, he got a lot of flak for that even in the national news
what's the hoopla? Isn't this just one more phase in the CARB rules put in years ago. Like adding DEF and then banning two strokes etc. We've already hear the howls from interstate truckers getting loads into Calif. If this is the same thing then we personal bus owners are ok. 2 strokes got the pass.
I've forgotten about the 4 stroke bans. Lots of buses had to get a hole in the engine or sold out of state and I think personal bus use was treated same as commercial, not sure. There was a phaseout plan that went took a few years to be done
We get lots of service trucks for sale here from CA because of the 200,000 mile limit on the smaller older diesel engines in those trucks like GMC,Chevy,Dodge and Fords,the small guys are forced into buying bigger trucks the 1 tons don't cut it the way CARB is set up
Quote from: luvrbus on December 31, 2022, 07:40:15 AM
You are not going to completely boycott California it is the breadbasket for the US,with out Ca grocery stores shelfs would be empty ,Newsome may be working on that though
Clifford I hauled freight in and out of California for years (point taken) my boycott is just me not going to California thinking back I always remembered going into California it wasn't like just crossing another state line it was like crossing the border into a different country where trucks were hated by the California D.O.T you had to be at the top of your game and up to date with your equipmemt or they would nail your @$# to the wall in my opinion it's not worth the worry and added expense to keep compliant.
Quote from: tr206 on December 31, 2022, 07:07:32 PM
Clifford I hauled freight in and out of California for years (point taken) my boycott is just me not going to California thinking back I always remembered going into California it wasn't like just crossing another state line it was like crossing the border into a different country where trucks were hated by the California D.O.T you had to be at the top of your game and up to date with your equipmemt or they would nail your @$# to the wall in my opinion it's not worth the worry and added expense to keep compliant.
I asked a trucker at the truck wash near me why so many trucks wash before entering CA and he told me CA was tough on nasty trucks,that couldn't be right or is it true
Quote from: luvrbus on January 01, 2023, 12:27:22 AM
I asked a trucker at the truck wash near me why so many trucks wash before entering CA and he told me CA was tough on nasty trucks,that couldn't right or is it true
It's true. You always wanted to get the truck washed (especially under carriage any oil or grease residue soot from the exhaust on your trailer) do as much as possible to not draw attention to yourself new or old trucks didn't matter. It was a cat and mouse game with them. You drove miles out of the way or waited hours for the coop to close to avoid contact with the D.O.T and it wasn't because we had junky unsafe equipment any commercial equipment is fair game to them. Truly the worst of the worst.
Boating is big in this area for people from CA,lot of storage around here they bring their boats here and rent storage because of the boat inspections going back into CA where they live
Saw a lot of boat inspection stops on our AK trip. Also encouraging power washing. Guess it from some kind of sea creatures getting into great lakes or elsewhere.
I think everyone living in or going to California is under scrutiny of some kind it's the next best thing to a communist country. I also think for some Californians it's the frog in a pot of water thing they don't notices it like outsiders do. Can't imagine operating a 2 stroke Detroit in that "state".
Quote from: chessie4905 on January 01, 2023, 06:00:03 AM
Saw a lot of boat inspection stops on our AK trip. Also encouraging power washing. Guess it from some kind of sea creatures getting into great lakes or elsewhere.
Makes no sense here the Colorado River is in both states same friggn water on both sides, the inspection station does the power washing in CA ,the fruit inspection stations bug me to death
Quote from: luvrbus on January 01, 2023, 06:17:41 AM
Makes no sense here the Colorado River is in both states same friggn water on both sides, the inspection station does the power washing in CA ,the fruit inspection stations bug me to death
I've never been totally on board with invasive species laws &/or regulations unless of coarse it was a space ship coming in from outer space. Planet earth has had species migration relocation since the beginning of time. Humans being the top of the food chain would like to keep it from happening or slow down migrations/relocations for our own convienence while we as humans are raping the planet in so many other ways at the same time at alarming rates. Just MO.
Restrictions on firewood crossing state lines. Bug in evergreens is killing an incredible number of trees. They just suddenly turn brown-dead. In town out of town. 10 in a landscape, 5 or 6 killed. Large dead patches in forests.
There were some benefits to DDT years ago.
Quote from: chessie4905 on January 01, 2023, 09:14:39 AM
Restrictions on firewood crossing state lines. Bug in evergreens is killing an incredible number of trees. They just suddenly turn brown-dead. In town out of town. 10 in a landscape, 5 or 6 killed. Large dead patches in forests.
There were some benefits to DDT years ago.
Pine beetles infest the forest here in the west is what kills the trees,not carrying firewood across state lines is not going to stop a air born insect, it never was a problem till some tree huger group stop the removing of downed trees in the forests lol notice the price of those tiny bundles of wood now, it is a money maker for camp hosts now.FWIW a CA state park was the 1st time I ran into no firewood from another state
So, would it be safest to enter California on a bicycle or would it be prudent to do power washing prior? In California's defense (I never thought I would ever say that) they do all this to prevent pests and diseases from affecting the citrus and vegetable crops. Quarantines are not always totally effective, but they slow the natural spread of diseases. Australia and California are the most vigilant places about this.
Quote from: DoubleEagle on January 01, 2023, 01:58:43 PM
So, would it be safest to enter California on a bicycle or would it be prudent to do power washing prior? In California's defense (I never thought I would ever say that) they do all this to prevent pests and diseases from affecting the citrus and vegetable crops. Quarantines are not always totally effective, but they slow the natural spread of diseases. Australia and California are the most vigilant places about this.
I don't know maybe disinfect the bike before entry of course every part of that bike probably causes cancer in California maybe just walk in disease free.
National Park Service (.gov)
https://www.nps.gov › learn › nature
Quagga Mussel Warning - Lake Mead National Recreation Area.
Lake Meads Hoover Dam intakes and Las Vegas Valley water intakes in the lake were blocked by this little mussel, brought by boats from out of state...
gee 2023 starts off with a bang or is that a bash on the west coast. First time on the board where I feel the pain of the haters. LOL You're all just jealous not being here, I understand.
Things have to be different here. I'm not defending 80% that is BS but there are unique needs here that other states and countries just don't have to deal with.
Much of the state has fireplace buring restrictions. It is incredibly annoying but it's easy to understand when you live in a bowl with millions of people buring firewood on nights with heavy inversion. Nobody wants to choke on smoke, You go outside and swear it is dense fog but it wood smoke.
Then the checkpoints on fruit, veg, all sorts of stuf that can harbor pests that destroy crops and wreck the ag businesses.
Same thing with auto smog regs. Just like fireplace burning. With just so many cars in conmpacted areas, there is no choice but to insist on strict pollution controls.
Unless you have lived in mega metro areas with massive numbers of people. I just looked this up as I did not know but just the SF Bay Area has as many people as 15 entire states. It's hard to image driving for two straight hours and never getting out of the neverending mass of building and people and cars. Or getting in hours long traffic jams and thousands of cars spewing pollution not going anywhere. Even podunk Sacramento has more people and cars than four states.
Life is just different and presents problems many folks never experience or have to deal with. Again, not defending the state - the 20% I dislike is enough to make me want to hang myself every Sunday. well, why not just move away? Because it is still the best state overall to live in.
"best state overall to live in"
Born in NJ living in FL most of my life but have accumulated 8 years of union carpenter's pension from mostly large metro areas of Cali & four western states. We have a lot of respect for those times. California is a unique place. Being a Florida resident, the sunshine state noted for Florida orange juice! Notice I didn't say oranges because compared to California's Naval beauties the cankered oranges of Florida can't compete in looks but can beat taste hands down the Cali forced grow crop IMHO. Nothing wrong with Cali - just too many people and too many grid locked freeways but the diversity in land geology is 2nd to none again IMO.
Have to sort of agree with Don and Dan.
I too lived in California for 60 years, Was born in Napa, CA and moved to Sacramento at 5YO. I too was a union Carpenter for 13 years and still draw a California Carpenters Pension.
The reason we moved out was to get my wife liver therapy that California did not have and her Dr and nutritionist moved from Vegas to Kansas.
Second reason was good time to do it sell out and live in the Bus again full time and we could not afford to live in California anymore. Not many Native Californians left but I am one and miss the state the weather the people who will tell you their opinion but not force it on you like we have seen in other states on the road. The water is clean there are many rivers and lake, lots of hunting and fishing and grow most of their own food in state. But alas once you leave you can't really afford to go back. By the way there is a northern California also not just Los Angeles that you see on TV. It is more farming, tomatoes wheat, rice and all kinds of veggies and flowers. The ocean is close and the mountains are too as well as snow skiing and ocean fishing, water skiing without snakes in the water.
Its a Great state and if you have never visited or lived there Go see for yourself you might be surprised..
Quote from: tr206 on January 01, 2023, 06:10:36 AM
I think everyone living in or going to California is under scrutiny of some kind it's the next best thing to a communist country.
Have you ever been to an actual communist country? Just wondering...
John
Quote from: lvmci on January 01, 2023, 04:53:53 PM
National Park Service (.gov)
https://www.nps.gov › learn › nature
Quagga Mussel Warning - Lake Mead National Recreation Area.
Lake Meads Hoover Dam intakes and Las Vegas Valley water intakes in the lake were blocked by this little mussel, brought by boats from out of state...
I guess it takes a whole lot of muscle to hold that kind of water back! :o
Sorry, couldn't resist...
Quote from: Iceni John on January 01, 2023, 07:12:24 PM
Have you ever been to an actual communist country? Just wondering...
John
Does Iraq count. Everyone I love the state of California absolutly beautiful and I have close family there that's why I went but the government doesn't make you feel very welcomed especially in a semi shoudn't have to love their government to love the state that's all I'm saying.
Here all my neighbors have dual citizenship lol I don't have neighbors left that are not from CA.Most people from CA are very nice people some are a little off the beaten path, but most: people are. I love northern CA ,the state is not business friendly, people, are overtaxed and that will cost the state, In Needle they don't even have a grocery any more both have closed, the people there buy their groceries and fuel on the AZ side of the river. I ordered Pizza from the Needles Dominos for Nikki and girls and it cost me 10% more because it was cooked. i have traded with NAPA in Needles for years now you cannot buy some items because of laws,Steve tells me buy it AZ he cannot sell it anymore ,a $10.00 deposit on a can of Freon there is no need for that.plus you need to turn the empty can in at the store you purchased it from,Steve is not going sell anymore when his stock is gone he doesn't like keeping records for the state and waiting a year for someone to pick up the empty cans .Not all of California is so beautiful it like AZ has a lot desert there is 140 miles of it from my house to Barstow of nothing else
Tried it. Too dry. Too crowded. Too hyped. Too restricted. Too expensive. Too weird. Too Narcissist. Pretty nice weather though.
Jim
Needles seriously. That is the hell hole of California, LOL
California Desert is not my cup of tea but a lot of people and animals seem to love it.
Someone must like the government there because they keep voting in many of the same people, LOL
As far as saying its is communistic is just plan dumb and political off the talking heads shows garbage.
At least their elections don't go on for 3 years, LOL :^
Quote from: Dave5Cs on January 02, 2023, 07:49:43 AM
Needles seriously. That is the hell hole of California, LOL
California Desert is not my cup of tea but a lot of people and animals seem to love it.
Someone must like the government there because they keep voting in many of the same people, LOL
As far as saying its is communistic is just plan dumb and political off the talking heads shows garbage.
At least their elections don't go on for 3 years, LOL :^
Dave you have good reason to defend your state and I applaud that. A lifetime of Napa Valley & Sacramento would have felt like heaven to an outsider like me coming in from the east working in hell holes like east LA and yes Needles is nothing to brag about but Joshua Tree is an awesome place. Once we got by the 5 day work week the Jeep would go into 4×4 and into gods country where the smog was a 1/2 mile below us! :^
Quote from: dtcerrato on January 02, 2023, 07:59:10 AM
Dave you have good reason to defend your state and I applaud that. A lifetime of Napa Valley & Sacramento would have felt like heaven to an outsider like me coming in from the east working in hell holes like east LA and yes Needles is nothing to brag about but Joshua Tree is an awesome place. Once we got by the 5 day work week the Jeep would go into 4×4 and into gods country where the smog was a 1/2 mile below us! :^
Dan not defending anything. We don't live there anymore but actually did for many years unlike many others who just are negative about it when it is time to look in their own backyard, LOL :^
Every state in the US has something special people like hell people even live in Wyoming :^ lol Dave Barstow is not much either,they have carved out a nice place in the desert with Plam Springs the surrounding area is not much about the same as Needles, there is really nothing in San Berdino county except the Mojave Desert. Back in 80's Idaho was a great place to live, I liked there till all the people found out about it, I visit sometimes but would not want to live there now
Bakersfield?
Quote from: chessie4905 on January 02, 2023, 09:00:48 AM
Bakersfield?
Buck Owens and nasty :^I spent almost a year there when Tenneco purchased the assets of Kern County Land Co.lol just what a gas company needs JI Case,Monroe, Walker, Donald Duck Orange Juice,Packing Corp of America and a few others , just to get the gas wells
Clifford what was "Walker" a gas company?
My two of 6 older sisters owns a condo in Palm Springs for many years. They share it 6 months each. They play golf a lot and both had hip and knee replacements,, LOL
Quote from: Dave5Cs on January 02, 2023, 09:32:34 AM
Clifford what was "Walker" a gas company?
My two of 6 older sisters owns a condo in Palm Springs for many years. They share it 6 months each. They play golf a lot and both had hip and knee replacements,, LOL
Dave it was Walker Mufflers and Monroe Shocks
only thing I saw of Bakersfield was in the movie The Best of Times with Kurt Russell and robin williams. Yeah, it was probably filmed elsewhere.
I had to go to Bakersfield to get our payoff check for our totaled class C S&S so we could buy the bus we still have now - that's what comes to my mind when I hear Bakersfield. Lol
About all Bakerfield is known for is Country music.Merle Haggard,Buck Owens ,Dwight Yoakum and the Bakerfield sound plus a lot of farming with orchards and plenty of oil and gas fields and it can get HOT and dry with 5 inches of rain annually
Bakerfield is where I used to turn left going to Cliffords and Quartszite, LOL
We backpacked 118 miles of the John Muir trail on the Sierra Crest. It took two weeks. Went in at Bishop and came out at Lone Pine after ascending Mt Whitney. The Owens Valley just on the East side of the Sierra is an awesome place. Geography doesn't get anymore extreme in the lower 48 as it does in California. Mt. Whitney & Death Valley are only 67 miles apart with the Owen's Valley in between. Mt. Whitney the highest ASL Death Valley the lowest BSL there was some geological happenings there!
Quote from: Iceni John on January 01, 2023, 07:12:24 PM
Have you ever been to an actual communist country? Just wondering...
John
Folks in the USA generally have a narrower world view than those living in other countries. Not studied, lived or travelled abroad does not give one that in-your-face punch of reality of how others live in other countries.
Other than political and media bias at work, there is no place offering more freedoms of speech, movement, rule of law, and up yours to just about anything or anybody without fear of much of anything of consequence happening to you.
The "ugly American" label comes from citizens from here going to other countries oblivious that you need to fully understand "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" and that is different than what goes in the US
LOL we still have a little freedom here ,but lost some with the Homeland Security Act, I am not giving into needing a special driver's license to fly on a airline anyway you look at it you have a Federal ID with those ,big brother is tracking us
Up until a year ago, Both my wife and I were born and raised in the LA area. We had a wonderful mini avocado (1.1 acres with 85 avocado trees and fruit trees) in Camarillo. Had parking for both my 40ft transit and 40ft truck. But water was $350/month (avocados are thirsty), everything else was expensive. We just couldn't take the Liberals anymore and we moved to Nampa, Idaho. We have 1.1 acres (no fruit trees) and a 48ft x 32ft x 16ft tall RV garage heated so I can work on the truck in the winter-and I can tilt my cab up inside too! We simply love it here-it costs half or less than California, the people are all friendly and polite. I just had to learn to drive slower with more patience. Idaho reminds us what California was like in the 60's and 70's. Good Luck, TomC
Quote from: TomC on January 06, 2023, 10:45:28 AM
Up until a year ago, Both my wife and I were born and raised in the LA area. We had a wonderful mini avocado (1.1 acres with 85 avocado trees and fruit trees) in Camarillo. Had parking for both my 40ft transit and 40ft truck. But water was $350/month (avocados are thirsty), everything else was expensive. We just couldn't take the Liberals anymore and we moved to Nampa, Idaho. We have 1.1 acres (no fruit trees) and a 48ft x 32ft x 16ft tall RV garage heated so I can work on the truck in the winter-and I can tilt my cab up inside too! We simply love it here-it costs half or less than California, the people are all friendly and polite. I just had to learn to drive slower with more patience. Idaho reminds us what California was like in the 60's and 70's. Good Luck, TomC
Idaho was laid back in early 80' a small airport you could drive up and get out and catch a plane 10 minutes before lifting off only 2 airlines served Boise United and Delta.When I came home on Friday I always had the same Untied Pilot that lived in Boise and on approach he would say ladies and gentlemen welcome to Boise set your clock back 20 years . When we lived in Boise, they never had a shopping mall till 1985 Nampa had a mall, but Boise shopping was downtown , I love Idaho Boise has some of the best parks in the nation built by people like Joe Albertson and Morrison of MK Construction in Boise
Tom should of gone up to northern California they have plenty of free water now.
Idaho has no ocean though, lol :^
Quote from: Dave5Cs on January 06, 2023, 11:34:43 AM
Tom should of gone up to northern California they have plenty of free water now.
Idaho has no ocean though, lol :^
Idaho has a lot water though our water bill was 15 bucks during the spring and summer and 5 bucks a month for fall and winter months
I don't mind being "Back East". Everything is so much greener and alive and the humidity is good for my nose and my skin. Wouldn't mind following the seasons but you sort of get used to it. As the saying goes, wherever you are that's where you're at.
Jim
Quote from: Jim Blackwood on January 07, 2023, 08:25:51 AM
I don't mind being "Back East". Everything is so much greener and alive and the humidity is good for my nose and my skin. Wouldn't mind following the seasons but you sort of get used to it. As the saying goes, wherever you are that's where you're at.
Jim
I don't miss the humidity and the bugs living here in the Southwest ,I don't care for the wind and dust we have here sometimes,Jan and in the 70's I do like
I also don't miss the Santa Ana winds in California.
Guess I'm just real old fashion. Born 8 miles from present home. Been away a few times but still home. Still run into friends from high school.I'm 76 yrs old. 90% of family lives in area. Home is where you are happy!!! The rest of the world is interesting---home is where your happy. The old addage love it or just leave it ...Bob
:^ :^ :^.I have traveled to a lot of places in this world there is no place like home
Hope windtrader is okay!
Dan Gibson Ranch is in the Rio Linda area away from Don and it flood any time there is a major storm. I texted Don the other night and he says he has had enough rain and wind but he might be up at his Bus property near OR line and it is by the Klamath river and it would be worse up there. But Sacramento has levees to protect it but inner areas have smaller ones and some times they get blown out and the Army core is on top of it there. A town east of Sac called Wilton always gets it but this storm has killed four people there in the last week and a levies break in one area really flooded a lot of homes there and some could not get out.
Go to KCRA news and that will give you the details
10-4 Dave.
Here's another...
NBC News: Hundreds of thousands left without power in California as forecasters warn of 'relentless' cyclones.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/weather-california-cyclones-flash-floods-power-cuts-storms-rcna64778
Cyclones?!
These things are almost west coast hurricanes & really hugh to say the least!
A few months ago one of these hit the Aleutian and wiped out some villages. Seems this year the Farmers Almanac got it really right or in the case of the receiving inhabitants - really wrong.
That story us about Captiola, Calif. It is off hyway 1 about midstate on the ocean near 101. It did get hit last week with some flooding and it wiped out its long working pier.
The LA area always get some major floods and up north they have lost power for 330K homes and businesses last week because of the heavy windys they normally do not get.
Hi Dan, Dave and the other nuts.
This is turning into a real winter for CA. Power out again today after last night, scary. It never goes over 40 or so in Sac but i watched local meters pegging 60. Way off the scale for not in hurricane lanes.
Took the dog around the block and oh boy - lots of big trees down, just in my block. It took SMUD nearly a day and a half to get us back online. This one is bigger, there was like 300,000 out of service. I figuring a couple days but the off grid bus sure is a nice place to hideout.
Rivers cresting over flood stage the next couple days. Will have to go sight see it.
Caplitola is along the coast and gets heavy weather but it took out the pier this time so worse than ever? long time anyway.
Still nothing like what some folks experience with the hurricanes going full tilt.
just checked - what a mess. :(
I'm in that first zone - just under 40,000 out.
Quote from: Iceni John on January 01, 2023, 07:12:24 PM
Have you ever been to an actual communist country? Just wondering...
John
I lived in a post communist country for 8 years. The handwriting is on the wall.
Seb
Quote from: windtrader on January 01, 2023, 04:54:48 PM
Because it is still the best state overall to live in.
Don which other states have you lived in?
I never LIVED in CA, but for 17 yrs I was in CA almost every week.
I like many things about CA, but ain't noway I'd move there.
I've lived in Panama, VA (don't remember either of those as I celebrated my 3rd birthday after those), IN (most of my young life from 3-23), KY, FL, ND, MN, OK, AR, and GOD's country where a call to heaven is a local call! (TN)
If I was to ever leave TN it'd be to go up to the Pacific NW of OR, ID or WA!
I drove truck all over this beautiful country and it all has great things at different times of the year, but for me TN is god's country and why my Gramma always lived here except a couple yrs that she lived in KY in one of mom & dad's houses, but she returned to TN to HOME as she referred to it!
CA is a nice place to visit, but for those of us that have lived other places where there are not near as many regulations/laws about how and what you can do on your own property there ain't no way we'd ever live there!
:D BK :D
Working for TN gas my territory was from Texas to Portland TN, I always like the people from TN, they had a lot of History with Texas as far back as the Alamo 1/2 the guys at the Alamo were from TN fighting for a cause
Quote from: Busted Knuckle on January 09, 2023, 09:00:24 AM
Don which other states have you lived in?
I never LIVED in CA, but for 17 yrs I was in CA almost every week.
I like many things about CA, but ain't noway I'd move there.
I've lived in Panama, VA (don't remember either of those as I celebrated my 3rd birthday after those), IN (most of my young life from 3-23), KY, FL, ND, MN, OK, AR, and GOD's country where a call to heaven is a local call! (TN)
If I was to ever leave TN it'd be to go up to the Pacific NW of OR, ID or WA!
I drove truck all over this beautiful country and it all has great things at different times of the year, but for me TN is god's country and why my Gramma always lived here except a couple yrs that she lived in KY in one of mom & dad's houses, but she returned to TN to HOME as she referred to it!
CA is a nice place to visit, but for those of us that have lived other places where there are not near as many regulations/laws about how and what you can do on your own property there ain't no way we'd ever live there!
:D BK :D
I've spent most of my life here but have lived in other states and countries too. The natural beauty and diversity is unparalleled. On specifics you can say other places in the world have better alpine mountains like the Himalyas or greater architecture like Europe or Japan or better beaches like the Maldives but why I stand firj on CA being best overall is the opportunities are everywhere, the best universities in the world are here, Sandhill Road is the greatest thing to streets paved with gold in reality there is, etc.
It is a pain in the @$# but nothing for free. There are lots of wonderful places elsewhere to be. It really is a personal decision on what each person values the most. Even saying that though, there are very remote places in CA that are as sparse as many others if that is your choice.
Hell, even Dan don't need to go to AK for snow and cold. Just go up to the high Sierras and stay in a mountain cabin at 9,500. Anyone would get enough rough weather to suit them.
Now - I admit this bomb cycloine is getting old. Elec out for second time and multiple days. Glad to have the bus to be civilized. lolAnd yes - solar don't work for crap when there is no sun for days on end.
People think of CA like it is all the LA area as seen in the movies and on TV,the state has some beautiful scenery. I used to love the bay area, but the last time we took our grandkids to San Fransico to the beautiful park people naked playing checkers and the homeless begging for money was a little much for me we haven't been back lol Needles is about it for me
Seattle and Portland same way. Saw it first hand.
Y'all can just stay the hell out of West-By-God-Virginia. There's just enough folks there as it is. Wouldn't want to ruin it.
Jim
windtrader said: Hell, even Dan don't need to go to AK for snow and cold. Just go up to the high Sierras and stay in a mountain cabin at 9,500. Anyone would get enough rough weather to suit them.
That is a true statement except for one thing, in Cali when you're looking down from a mountain you can only see the top of the smog layer!
I'll add that after we descended off of Mt Whitney with the 13 day trek to get to Whitney - I remember getting out of my buddies Jeep in Lone Pine and "floating" across Hwy 295 pavement not wearing the 65 lb. backpack and drinking beer & eating pizza until we had to crawl to the motel next door and sat in the hot shower all night - & oh it felt sooo good! LOL :^
My grandparents all immigrated to the US from Italy. My grandpa here in LV always said to me Italy and California are the same, same weather, same cities, same farming and same earthquakes!
Quote from: lvmci on January 10, 2023, 09:31:52 AM
My grandparents all immigrated to the US from Italy. My grandpa here in LV always said to me Italy and California are the same, same weather, same cities, same farming and same earthquakes!
They both share Mediterranean climate which I have read is the most comfortable climate on the books for humans. :^
Quote from: dtcerrato on January 10, 2023, 09:47:17 AM
They both share Mediterranean climate which I have read is the most comfortable climate on the books for humans. :^
Italy has its share of deserts too like CA,hard to understand a place like Accona gets 31 inches of rain a year and is a desert,Tenneco bought their clay there for the Catalytic cracking in the chemical plant Accona Desert is the only place in the world you good get the gray clay for the ceramic beads used in the units