Much as I hate to post this, I just don't seem to be able to pick up the thread. I had this problem before and it was something that I was overlooking, which once addressed took care of it. Apparently I need to paste up a notice in some prominent location. Anyway I have to ask again.
'96 102DL3 Startup is just fine but after running maybe half a minute it shuts down. Who can tell me what I'm overlooking?
Kinda a little embarrassing really. I know it's something simple.
Thanks,
Jim
Low coolant or bad coolant sensor
Hmmm... don't think that was it the last time this happened.
Jim
Quote from: Jim Blackwood on July 05, 2022, 11:00:06 AM
Hmmm... don't think that was it the last time this happened.
Jim
I think it was the last time it was low coolant
Ah, yes I expect you are right. Thanks, I will check it.
Jim
Seems likely. When I hit the manual pump switch after a few seconds it gurgled. Need to go get more antifreeze.
Hey, I heard micropores from cavitation was an issue with these engines. Something about using the right antifreeze? Any recommendations?
Jim
Quote from: Jim Blackwood on July 05, 2022, 01:20:05 PM
Seems likely. When I hit the manual pump switch after a few seconds it gurgled. Need to go get more antifreeze.
Hey, I heard micropores from cavitation was an issue with these engines. Something about using the right antifreeze? Any recommendations?
Jim
I don't use any brand except the Power Cool for Detroit Diesels ,you are not dealing with the old 2 stroke engine with the 60 series
First off, why did the coolant drop? Better fix that first, or revisit the same issue again down the road.
True enough, I'll try to have a look around today and see if anything shows up. It's probably been sitting more than is good for it and may stop loosing coolant once it is being run a bit more often, but now that I have the jacks working properly it'll be much easier to move it around a bit. The leak isn't an obvious one.
I've not noticed that Power Cool antifreeze anywhere around here, I'd guess they sell it in the truck stops?
Jim
Quote from: chessie4905 on July 05, 2022, 07:31:59 PM
First off, why did the coolant drop? Better fix that first, or revisit the same issue again down the road.
I have had the same issue in the past with coolant loss over time. Mine has always ended up being seepage from the silicone hoses. They do like to leak when the temperature changes. Check your hoses.
The pumps on the Ispar and Webasto plumbed to the engine seem to always drip on the DL3
You get the Powercool coolant at the Detroit dealer.
At Walmart, you can buy a few different Heavy Duty diesel coolants, nitrite free, Name and Walmart brands, meeting engine manufacturer's specs
Quote from: chessie4905 on July 06, 2022, 11:47:01 AM
At Walmart, you can buy a few different Heavy Duty diesel coolants, nitrite free, Name and Walmart brands, meeting engine manufacturer's specs
That should be easier to find. Any easy way to know which ones are OK to use?
I took a look around yesterday and realigned the engine access doors in the process. Got attacked by a big crowbar... but hey all the doors open and close nicely now at least. Didn't see any indications of drippage or leakage but I'll take another look today and maybe tighten the clamps.
There is a new Freuhauf dealer across the freeway, do they sell DD?
Jim
read the specs on the jug or online description for each.
here's one of many places:https://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/threads/detroit-60-coolant.803500/page-2
So in reality then I guess this is about as confusing as the oil then huh. I mean why would anyone want it to be simple right? So as near as I can tell what it's called doesn't help, what color it is doesn't help, where you get it doesn't help unless you happen across a Detroit Diesel place, it has a secret code nobody remembers, and if you get it wrong it will destroy your engine. That about right?
Jim
Good stuff
Without a secret decoder ring, no answers will appear in the tea leaves.
The trailer dealer is an unlikely candidate for engine fluids for the prime mover, but they do have reefer engines...?
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
I went by the Freightliner shop and bought a six pack of PowerCool. Added that to the transfer tank, pumped a gallon or two up to the top, sight window is in the middle, nice clear red color and the transfer tank is full. 76 bucks, money well spent.
It now starts and runs just fine.
I appreciate the comments and help. I think I will stick with the PowerCool.
Jim