How many here are familiar with this model? Someone on Facebook is selling one. Never heard of it, so looked it up.
https://oldmachinepress.com/2014/08/17/general-motors-electro-motive-16-184-diesel-engine/
Finally the perfect 4104 repower.
Neat though.
Thanks for the posting. It's amazing what can be thought up and brought to fruition! Jack
Wow, amazing! One of many reasons I like 2-stroke diesels is their ability to be configured in so many ways, such as the legendary Napier Deltic (18 cylinders, 36 pistons, 3 crankshafts), or the Napier Nomad (a 12-cylinder gas turbine), or the Commer TS-3 (3 cylinders, 6 pistons, only one crankshaft), or the Fairbanks-Morse whose descendants are still in smoky service in Russian locomotives. Fascinating!
John
The X design GM engines were actually Allision designed
Quite a few of the aircraft engine manufacturers tried 'X' engines. Then the jet engines and gas turbines came on the scene and it was game over.
What caught my eye was that they used wooden blocks and rope to hang that thing...... :)
Our local phone company used to have a 2 stroke standing on end for standby generator many years back.
Quote from: chessie4905 on June 12, 2022, 01:44:37 PM
Our local phone company used to have a 2 stroke standing on end for standby generator many years back.
I work on several 6v71's standing end to end on water wells here ,lot of industrial Ford V8 and Mopar industrial engines still on wells around here standing end to end most are propane burners a couple of gasoline burners still going
That's interesting and informative. Hard to believe now that while there are still several locomotives with 2 cycle engines out there, that number is decreasing.
Still building 2 cycle engines for cargo ships.
Lot of train engines out west still running the EMD 2 stroke engines ,sad the EMD engines are leaving since CAT owns EMD now ,the EMD's amazed me the block is not cast but a hand welded steel block for the vibration they produce lol @ 900 rpm they rattle windows for a 1/2 of a mile
Both type seem to have a neat distinct sound especially when a long freight train is first starting out for the first few miles. The next generation likely will be much quieter. Those new SIEMENS locomotives that AMTRAK is adding are very quiet. So enjoy the older one's for the sound for now.
Quote from: CrabbyMilton on June 13, 2022, 10:35:25 AM
Both type seem to have a neat distinct sound especially when a long freight train is first starting out for the first few miles. The next generation likely will be much quieter. Those new SIEMENS locomotives that AMTRAK is adding are very quiet. So enjoy the older one's for the sound for now.
Cousin is a railroad engineer and he hates the new genset locomotives with multiple generators that you start up and shut down as needed.
BNSF has some engines running on CNG, UP does too,freight trains consume a lot of diesel ,I read combined railroad trains co's use 5 billion gals a year that is a lot of diesel fuel
Quote from: freds on June 13, 2022, 11:19:28 AM
Cousin is a railroad engineer and he hates the new genset locomotives with multiple generators that you start up and shut down as needed.
Does he drive freight or passenger trains?
Quote from: CrabbyMilton on June 13, 2022, 01:20:20 PM
Does he drive freight or passenger trains?
Freight out of Wyoming...
Thanks. I supposed it's what he's used to over the years. Just imagine all of the changes that took place since the first diesels came into service. Better yet, imagine transitioning to diesel from steam.
I am a train engineer up here in BC interior we have many emd locomotives in the fleet and will for quite some time, only reason they are not produced new anymore is cause they could not meet tier 2 or maybe 3 emissions. the 645 and the 710 are one the greatest locomotives engines ever produced very robust was up graded right to the end ,,,,,,,,,Oh yes and they are awesome,,,,,, pretty our bus two stokes just larger
Sorry-you need to go to PregressRail to see the EMD locomotives. Except for the locomotive made for the USA using a 4 stroke engine, all other locomotives sent around the world are still using the 2 stroke 710 series engine. It is still very much alive. It has been approved for Tier 4 with after treatment for marine use. Good Luck, TomC
yes member tom you are correct on that.... there are lots med speed diesel engines not sold in north america due to tier but sold world wide still ...progessive rails 1010 seems not to being picked up by many rail railways ge is king the hill or now wabco or wabtec but that trend seems to be changing
Quote from: john frehlich on June 19, 2022, 09:31:40 AM
yes member tom you are correct on that.... there are lots med speed diesel engines not sold in north america due to tier but sold world wide still ...progessive rails 1010 seems not to being picked up by many rail railways ge is king the hill or now wabco or wabtec but that trend seems to be changing
Yeah we're the only dumazz's (America) that try to uphold all the Smog Crap. The rest of the World "Balls to the Walls" and make money. .
Quote from: muldoonman on June 20, 2022, 11:01:37 AM
Yeah we're the only dumazz's (America) that try to uphold all the Smog Crap. The rest of the World "Balls to the Walls" and make money. .
We got there (wherever there is) first - now we're trying to put the brakes on. Imo.