gas pump manufacturers are receiving reports that their pumps are severely overheating from the too fast increasing dollars and cents registering on the pumps. The recommended fix is a water cooled attachment to reduce the heat generated.
If the price keeps going up nobody will be using the gas pumps anymore problem solved right? Also if refineries keep shutting down there will be no fuel to pump. Can you say rationing?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-07/refinery-insights-huge-u-s-plant-shutdown-may-spook-market
Can you say ride a bike, walk, or take the bus? lol
Since we're talking about gas prices...again.
Does anyone else have anxiety about pulling their bus into gas stations?
I know I do!
Planning on viewing aerial photography of all potential fuel point for each trip.
I have a 43 foot bus usually pulling a 24 foot trailer. I have gotten in and out of some pretty tight gas stations. I pulled into a Walmart gas station last year or the year before and was questioning how the heck I could get to the pumps then recalled I had been at that exact gas station my previous trip and made it work. I was able to get fuel this time too.
Georgia Governor suspended the state gas tax so I topped off for $5.05, but that deal ends June 1st. I'm glad that as a lad living in Colorado I worked cattle ranches for a summer job. I got real good at riding a horse, but I just checked the price on Amazon for the methane collection bag I have to put on the rear end of a horse per the EPA edict from D.C.
Total cost comparison - Diesel is still competitive.....!
Cost of everything has gone through the roof ,batteries have doubled in price,a $50.00 rear main seal for a 8v92 Detroit with the wear sleeve OEM from WW Williams cost over 200 bucks now ,plus you wait 6 to 8 weeks
Everything you buy gets there by diesel power. Two burgers and a slice of pie at the local diner; $40.
Now Someplaces are asking you to turn the air conditioning up to prevent blackouts and have enough power to charge the EV's .6 charging stations close to me they are letting people use 1 for blackout reasons,there was 10 EV's inline waiting for a 30 minute charge ,Technoloy at it's best
The buc stops at the Pedophile in Chief's desk in the White house, excuses for his actions is just pissin in the wind ;)
Hey Van - crosssing the political line?
Clifford - Wall Street has to wait to hear from Wally World, Target, and Costco that consumer's pocketbooks are closing up? Like we did not know this was coming?
The question is what's ahead? OK - crossing the line. Sleepy Joe is hoping for a new variant to put us all back on house lockdown. That will cut demand, maybe.
Ted - Where are the climate folks now? Surely in the choir crying about how oil is hurting their finances. What happened to just go out and buy an EV?
Navigatinbg corner gas stations? There is a dent in a bay door that reminds me daily to be super watchful.
I'm heading to the ranch today and just really upset that a short round trip is over $600 and that is old pricing. Still, love the bus travel, just need to stay parked longer in one place.
Enjoy the day and keep that wallet open and flowing!
Quote from: windtrader on May 20, 2022, 08:50:10 AM
Hey Van - crosssing the political line?
Not me lol! https://youtu.be/xIraCchPDhk
Quote from: Van on May 20, 2022, 08:21:54 AM
The buc stops at the Pedophile in Chief's desk in the White house, excuses for his actions is just pissin in the wind ;)
:^ someone had a bowl of self tapping screws for breakfast
they are predicting a surge in the fall, just in time to encourage remote voting ...again.
Paid $4.99 for diesel yesterday in Milwaukee. Thanks gas buddy!
also came with free can of soda of my choice.
Quote from: Van on May 20, 2022, 08:21:54 AM
The buc stops at the Pedophile in Chief's desk in the White house, excuses for his actions is just pissin in the wind ;)
Hey Van they voted him out over a year ago, LOL :^
Quote from: Van on May 20, 2022, 08:21:54 AM
The buc stops at the Pedophile in Chief's desk in the White house, excuses for his actions is just pissin in the wind ;)
Spot on in that statement. The 10% Big Guy and His Minions are helping this problem. To all that voted for Him, hope you're happy. Next step, They will be wanting to put a Electric Motor in your bus..
Do like we're doing and just DO IT! :^
Quote from: Dave5Cs on May 20, 2022, 10:20:13 AM
Hey Van they voted him out over a year ago, LOL :^
Dave turn around buddy yer pissin in the wrong direction again lol! :^
Both sides need new canidates IMHO.
The problems are the whole world not just the US. Fuel prices , supply chains etc.
This guy needs to go but we don t need to go back either.
A LV stage show like "O" that is family of 4 friendly, and dinner at the hotel is around $1000, but Disneyland is even more expensive! How can a working class family afford it?...
They say people are maxed out on credit again like when Bush was in office and next it will be houses again. Don't re-vote anyone back in office and maybe we can make it back to living again.
Vote "NO" for president...
Funny, we were going to do a run of those bumper stickers back in the 80's.
Jim
Jim make sense, lol
Quote from: muldoonman on May 20, 2022, 11:40:23 AMNext step, They will be wanting to put a Electric Motor in your bus..
Don't threaten me with a good time
OK - well, clearly jumpedd the line. lol
The George Carlin video clip was great. The one thing I take issue with is, even though we seemed screwed by the left, right ,and center, the ONLY atom of power the people possess is the right to vote. Seems like it is just checking who seems least capable but please do vote in all elections. sorry for the PSA
Man trying to fix the world's problems without God is the definition of anarchy.
-Kenyon
Seems like the entire concept of "God" needs modernized. Seriously. Who in their right mind today could justify racism and genocide on the basis of one man killing his brother?
New testament was a timely upgrade but with all the changes another is way overdue.
Jim
Quote from: Nova Eona on May 20, 2022, 03:26:53 PM
Don't threaten me with a good time
Imagine how big those battery banks would be to get you across country. Maybe a long extension cord.
Fuel for our RV's is the least of our problems you can park those and wait it out maybe. People on fix income are suffering. How can anyone live on S/S Medical cost is crazy with insurance I spent 3 days and Sonja stayed for 6 days in the hospital so far I have $12,000.00 worth of bills none would pay and they keep coming lol 1 for $1.27.A nurse earns their money and some are paid well our daughter a RN worked for FEMA they paid her with overtime more than President earns just taking care of illegal kids left at the border , we do need a fix and fast
Tough to do with the ties of Democratic party with most news media, the social networks, and Companies like Amazon, Disney Hollywood, etc.
I used to be in the c-store business back in the 80's I sold gas as leader to get you into my store to buy beer, sodas, and chips. If I made a nickel a gallon I was very happy. Now I look on my TSD app and see diesel posted for $5.35 and with the TSD discount I can by it for $4.53. That is a good margin when some of those places sell 5000 gallons a day, maybe even more.
I am noticing that my TSD card discount price is way cheaper than all my local haunts I usually fill up my coach at right now. Even Sam's Club is higher than my TSD final price.
David
Cards don't give much of a discount on 100% diesel fuel,20% bio crap there is a large markup,even 5% bio is getting hard to find since all the later engines are happy with 20% bio ,my ISX Cummins does not like bio fuel over 5%
Quote from: Jim Blackwood on May 21, 2022, 06:28:04 AM
Seems like the entire concept of "God" needs modernized.
Jim
I agree in large part. Which may come as a surprise given I'm a pastor.
Perhaps, we have been sold a bill of goods. Like those cheap chocolate cream filled cookies my Grandma gave me. All the while calling them Oreo's. She would ask me if I wanted some Oreo's and milk.
Then one day I got a taste of a genuine Oreo. It tasted soooo good! Love them to this day. I eat them by the sleeve.
But I had questions for Grandma. She said they are the same thing. But she clearly had never had an Oreo.
I guess they cost too much...
My father in law lived on a farm as a kid. They used to eat lard sandwiches. Close as I've come is bacon. They say that fried potatoes taste best cooked in lard. I'll pass.
Few years back all the baked goods sold by the Mennonites used lard for shortning. They don't anymore, at least around here
Quote from: chessie4905 on May 21, 2022, 02:21:56 PM
My father in law lived on a farm as a kid. They used to eat lard sandwiches. Close as I've come is bacon. They say that fried potatoes taste best cooked in lard. I'll pass.
Few years back all the baked goods sold by the Mennonites used lard for shortning. They don't anymore, at least around here
Mexican restaurants use a lot of lard for cooking that is all they use ,a lard sandwich that would be ugly ,I won't even eat a egg cooked in bacon grease :^
So Electric gods eat Oreos cooked in Lard is what I am getting from this thread, & that must be because of the high price of RN's at the boarder & this is why Diesel costs so much ? :^
Quote from: chessie4905 on May 21, 2022, 02:21:56 PM
My father in law lived on a farm as a kid. They used to eat lard sandwiches. Close as I've come is bacon. They say that fried potatoes taste best cooked in lard. I'll pass.
Few years back all the baked goods sold by the Mennonites used lard for shortning. They don't anymore, at least around here
There used to be a brand of potato chips in Pennsylvania (Goff's) that cooked their chips in 100% pork lard. In my opinion, they were very tasty and the best I have ever eaten. Health-wise, they might not be the best, but they were good. (Pretty good drift from fuel prices, except that if they were still available I would drive to PA to get some if the diesel prices were lower).
It could get worse at least we are not making soap with the lard :^,still never heard of a lard sandwich, guess you don't find those on a Subway menu.Walter there is chip maker in Beeville Tx that uses only lard and they are good.
No, this is just a rambling, since we can't do much about fuel costs.
Another subject. Has anyone here visited the house on the Rock in Central Wisconsin?
Quote from: chessie4905 on May 21, 2022, 09:03:09 PM
No, this is just a rambling, since we can't do much about fuel costs.
Another subject. Has anyone here visited the house on the Rock in Central Wisconsin?
Did't visit it directly, but we are in the area. Driftless region is beautiful and a worthwhile place to see if you haven't before. Lots of fishing in the area too.
Quote from: chessie4905 on May 21, 2022, 09:03:09 PM
No, this is just a rambling, since we can't do much about fuel costs.
Another subject. Has anyone here visited the house on the Rock in Central Wisconsin?
Goal accomplished.
You've got to visit this place if ever in the area. A jaw dropping experience.
never heard of that brand, but Gibbles are cooked in lard. don't know if it is 100% though.
Quote from: windtrader on May 20, 2022, 08:50:10 AM
Hey Van - crosssing the political line?
Clifford - Wall Street has to wait to hear from Wally World, Target, and Costco that consumer's pocketbooks are closing up? Like we did not know this was coming?
Target reported same store sales were up for the quarter so spending was still holding up as of last quarter. The headlines were all about Target's profits being down for the quarter due to higher costs, but barely any mention that sales still increased.
I just read something the other day that dealers of ATVs, UTVs, and other similar toys are begging manufacturers for more inventory as they can sell everything they can get.
Quote from: belfert on May 24, 2022, 07:44:59 AM
Target reported same store sales were up for the quarter so spending was still holding up as of last quarter. The headlines were all about Target's profits being down for the quarter due to higher costs, but barely any mention that sales still increased.
I just read something the other day that dealers of ATVs, UTVs, and other similar toys are begging manufacturers for more inventory as they can sell everything they can get.
Target stock is down 30% so their profits must be way down,for that drop in value they missed the profit estimate a lot and Wall Street didn't care for the report much
also rotation to other stocks by big funds causes major corrections in various stocks. with the algorithms from their computers, hard for little guy to make any money in the market.. Stocks often drop even after good earnings or dividend payouts. You need to spend all your days closely watching markets. Doesn't leave much time to drive the coach.
Price of fuel is not looking good for June they say we will jump 20 cents a liter for diesel that is almost 80 cents a gal , oil may reach the $150.00 mark soon.The nut case heading the circus in DC really doesn't care because taxpayers foot his fuel bill ,hang on we are in for the ride of our life
this will help their plan to push the country to electric. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.
Saw $4.99 at one station in upper Minnesota. Mostly $5.19 to $5.29.
Oil and gas prices are up worldwide, it's amazing how Biden is even able to manipulate foreign markets
Quote from: Nova Eona on May 26, 2022, 03:09:25 PM
Oil and gas prices are up worldwide, it's amazing how Biden is even able to manipulate foreign markets
Guess it's a positive that people think he's so powerful.
We have prices in CA that are higher than some countries in Europe,Biden powerful you are joking he is just dumb
Quote from: luvrbus on May 26, 2022, 04:11:02 PM
We have prices in CA that are higher than some countries in Europe,Biden powerful you are joking he is just dumb
I only brought it up since there are some people who hold that he's responsible for the increase in fuel prices around the globe. Gotta be pretty powerful to accomplish that.
And there are many people believe that he isn't responsible for ANY of our problems. Same for Obama, Clinton, Carter, etc. Looks like a pattern to me.
Quote from: chessie4905 on May 26, 2022, 05:26:23 PM
And there are many people believe that he isn't responsible for ANY of our problems. Same for Obama, Clinton, Carter, etc. Looks like a pattern to me.
Anybody that says we are better off today than we were 2 years won the lottery or is a lying @$#. A life long friend democrat was touting the 7% raise in S/S Biden gave he got his bubble popped when I showed him how much Medicare raised the deductible on Medicare part A and B ,$1555.26 deductible now on part A and $233.00 on part B, hell the 7% cost me the loser can have his 7%
Quote from: luvrbus on May 26, 2022, 04:11:02 PM
We have prices in CA that are higher than some countries in Europe,Biden powerful you are joking he is just dumb
Some countries in Europe, you say? Not all of them? Like, as in Europe is also dealing with unusually high gas prices? Weird. Really my heart goes out to the oil companies, between these New World Order policies and rampant supply shortages they're probably barely making a profit at all.
We're not going to convince each other who's the better politician. There's no point in even trying. I'm not trying to have a political discussion about the merits of any particular politician.
Just like every president, the current one is limited in his ability to affect these issues, especially when the entire global economy is tanking due to things like the Russian invasion of Ukraine, China shutting down due to its inability to manage Covid, etc, etc.
We can dicker all day about the foibles of whoever is in office, but it won't change things that affect us which come from outside our borders.
Why do we need to import oil ? fuel prices are not high in South America in Venezuela fuel is cheaper than toilet paper
Well they have oil are communists and their people have little or no food. And they are at our boarder try to escape so it is good their oil is cheap.
Quote from: Dave5Cs on May 26, 2022, 07:46:45 PM
Well they have oil are communists and their people have little or no food. And they are at our boarder try to escape so it is good their oil is cheap.
Venezuela still owns 2 Citgo refineries 1 in Texas and 1 in Lake Charles LA and offices in Houston,both still refine and export even with their profits frozen by the US.I am sure the deal Biden is making with Venezuela includes releasing those funds.As domb as he is and controls all 3 branches he may go back and let Venezuela sell the refineries to Russia who knows what he will do next
Quote from: luvrbus on May 26, 2022, 06:17:16 PM
Why do we need to import oil ? fuel prices are not high in South America in Venezuela fuel is cheaper than toilet paper
Sure - it was cheap for consumers in Venezuela because the government was heavily subsidizing the price. They control the price and kept it artificially down so long is helped destroy their economy.
Thought you were against government control of prices?
Pilot-Flying J ceo. on def supply on U-tube. Worth a watch. Very surprising info on the coming and current def supply shortage.
Quote from: chessie4905 on May 27, 2022, 04:34:19 PM
Pilot-Flying J ceo. on def supply on U-tube. Worth a watch. Very surprising info on the coming and current def supply shortage.
DEF won't shut trucking down you can by pass it with programing with the EPA ok Cummins did it when no sensors were aviable for about a year during the CV-19 BS
Problem with de activating the def system, the accumulated soot will plug up the system eventually.
But the interesting part of the video is who controls supply and source of ingredients.
Quote from: chessie4905 on May 27, 2022, 07:46:40 PM
Problem with de activating the def system, the accumulated soot will plug up the system eventually.
But the interesting part of the video is who controls supply and source of ingredients.
I toured the big DEF manufacturing plant in Blackfoot ID they have all the ingredients on site at the plant it is over 60% R/O water,a fertilizer shortage would put a kink in their manufacturing though
Quote from: richard5933 on May 27, 2022, 03:04:38 AM
Sure - it was cheap for consumers in Venezuela because the government was heavily subsidizing the price. They control the price and kept it artificially down so long is helped destroy their economy.
Thought you were against government control of prices?
Inflation and politics was Venezuela down fall and we are headed that way,old Joe is doing a great job getting us on track with a GDP rate of - 1.5
Quote from: luvrbus on May 28, 2022, 10:10:01 AM
Inflation and politics was Venezuela down fall and we are headed that way,old Joe is doing a great job getting us on track with a GDP rate of - 1.5
That is an opinion. There are others.
Quote from: richard5933 on May 28, 2022, 11:56:28 AM
That is an opinion. There are others.
Yes it is a opinion but I am with the 80% of Americans that believe we are headed in the wrong direction under slow Joe.LOL we are in trouble if we have a paper and ink shortage under Biden and his party
Quote from: luvrbus on May 28, 2022, 01:06:32 PM
Yes it is a opinion but I am with the 80% of Americans that believe we are headed in the wrong direction under slow Joe.LOL we are in trouble if we have a paper and ink shortage under Biden and his party
Pick your poll and you get to pick your numbers. I don't put much stock in polls.
Quote from: richard5933 on May 28, 2022, 01:12:02 PM
Pick your poll and you get to pick your numbers. I don't put much stock in polls.
Totally agree with that assessment. There are reports, studies ,statistics, any data you want to choose that fits your comfort. The fact is nobody knows what is going to happen with 100% certainty. There are global actor and sovereign entities whose decisions and actions affect the global economy. And we all know a handful by rote memory who's action could disrupt things big time.
That said, what is most perplexing to me is the amount of discretionary still available to fuel consumer spending. Only real estate has shown measurable effect of higher mortgage rates. That will spill into consumer durables, furnishings, even home improvement. That hasn't shown much yet.
The government under Trump and supported by Biden printed trillions of cheap and free money. It fueled and rocketed the economy, way overdone but in reaction the the memories of '08.
Watch consumer credit balances trending higher and other indicators the free money is going away. As long as it stays up, it will keep spending up and inflation. The other indicator is jobs, if that starts slowing then another indicator of slowing economy.
So - soft landing or recession? Buy or hold? Too late to sell at this point.
I'm skeptical of any poll which suggests 80% of Americans agree on anything politically
Yeap screw polls but you can't deny what's happening to the economy and some think Biden has nothing to do with the economy it's all globle economics which must mean our elections are meaningless so it doesn't matter who's in office so does this mean the price of energy is all the fault of the evil oil companies who must actually rule the world? Nothing to do with with trillions of dallars printed for the Biden administrations green new deal bill or bills whatever is this correct I must be confused somebody help me out here. :P
$5.19 gal as of yesterday. I will wait til the price hits $10.00 gal to buy diezel so I can do my part lol! :o :o ::)
Happy coal rolling!
Quote from: tr206 on May 29, 2022, 06:35:34 AM
Yeap screw polls but you can't deny what's happening to the economy and some think Biden has nothing to do with the economy it's all globle economics which must mean our elections are meaningless so it doesn't matter who's in office so does this mean the price of energy is all the fault of the evil oil companies who must actually rule the world? Nothing to do with with trillions of dallars printed for the Biden administrations green new deal bill or bills whatever is this correct I must be confused somebody help me out here. :P
Happy to help!
The administration's policies can certainly effect the American economy, but when global prices for a commodity spike upwards that indicates a global cause, not a national one.
Now, the oil companies? They're posting 50 year record profits. Maybe they've just figured out how to be more efficient or are delivering new and exciting products to us all, or maybe they're just price gouging because they can. Supply shortages and over-onerous regulations and policies typically reduce profits rather than inflate them. Corporations aren't evil, they're amoral entities which exist solely to hoover up all the money they can in any way possible and deliver it to their shareholders.
Regarding the 'trillions of dollars printed', the current estimate for total physical currency in circulation is about $2.something T, most of the 'printed money' memes floating around are misrepresenting some complicated and confusing intangible financials about values moving between M #s (but, as always, it benefits the corporations far more than the normies). https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/04/fact-check-80-percent-of-us-dollars-in-existence-were-not-created-in-the-last-two-months-as-of-april-16-2022.html (https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/04/fact-check-80-percent-of-us-dollars-in-existence-were-not-created-in-the-last-two-months-as-of-april-16-2022.html)
Finally, the Green New Deal is an ideological framework, not a bill which has been passed or budgeted.
Rob - I used the term "printed" loosely. Look at the balance sheet and the increase in soverign debt is more specifically what was meant. Raising rates is intended to stimulate demand destruction. The dirty secret is it also makes all the debt taken on less costly to pay back in cheaper dollars.
Quote from: tr206 on May 29, 2022, 06:35:34 AM
Yeap screw polls but you can't deny what's happening to the economy and some think Biden has nothing to do with the economy it's all globle economics which must mean our elections are meaningless so it doesn't matter who's in office so does this mean the price of energy is all the fault of the evil oil companies who must actually rule the world? Nothing to do with with trillions of dallars printed for the Biden administrations green new deal bill or bills whatever is this correct I must be confused somebody help me out here. :P
Not sure why the rush to blame Biden or anyone else. Seems to me that many on this forum are strong supporters of the free market system, and this is what we're seeing right now.
Oil companies and groups like OPEC have pushed the fear of a fuel shortage after Russia attacked Ukraine, and then used that fear to drive up the price of oil on the open market.
As the price of oil increases, the companies pumping it are making more and more money from it. It doesn't cost any more to pump a barrel today than it did yesterday, but yet the price at the pumps near me have shot up 30 cents in a day.
Free market hard at work doing its thing. People fear a shortage of supply, traders on the commodity markets push up the price, and the people selling it rack in huge profits without doing any more work.
A couple of years ago we all benefited when this system worked the other way - the pandemic caused a drastic reduction in demand which caused the oil prices to plummet. At the time I knew that eventually we'd have to pay the piper, and that's what's happening now.
Richard - Govermnment policy does influence prices. Whether it be grain subsidizes, tariffs, oil leasing, XL pipeline, trade agreements, etc. We don't live in a truly FREE market system. As to the trillions put into the money supply during COVID, it does impact free market mechanics. Apprently, plenty still have cash to travel this weekend. If they had less discretionary money, less travel means less fuel consumption, means less demand, means lower prices.
Quote from: windtrader on May 29, 2022, 12:56:46 PM
Richard - Govermnment policy does influence prices. Whether it be grain subsidizes, tariffs, oil leasing, XL pipeline, trade agreements, etc. We don't live in a truly FREE market system. As to the trillions put into the money supply during COVID, it does impact free market mechanics. Apprently, plenty still have cash to travel this weekend. If they had less discretionary money, less travel means less fuel consumption, means less demand, means lower prices.
Of course it does influence prices, but when the problems are global there is limited ability of any one country to fix the problem for itself.
Quote from: richard5933 on May 29, 2022, 01:28:12 PM
Of course it does influence prices, but when the problems are global there is limited ability of any one country to fix the problem for itself.
Well said Richard!!!
The greatest generation put up with lots of hardship and when we are inconvenienced we bitch like we are on a cross having spikes driven through our feet.
I just watched an interesting video today about gun ownership being almost universal in Switzerland: So Many Guns, No Mass Shootings..
Heck they mix public shooting events with beer fests!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkuMLId8SqE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkuMLId8SqE)
This is why I don't do fakebook and now wondering about here?
Fueled up outside Winnepeg. $2.04/litre. Approximately $6.05/ gallon.
Crossed border on Rt59 attesting. Quiet place. Doesn't look like the guy gets many people. Road north was fair with small frost heaves for about 30 miles. Very little traffic since we left Thief River Fall. Evidence of a lot of flooding still remains on the pancake terrain.
Quote from: Dave5Cs on May 29, 2022, 03:05:14 PM
This is why I don't do fakebook and now wondering about here?
Sunday and Monday is no politics for me it is 2 days of remembering the young men and women that died so we could be having this BS conversation
:^
Quote from: luvrbus on May 29, 2022, 04:40:41 PM
Sunday and Monday is no politics for me it is 2 days of remembering the young men and women that died so we could be having this BS conversation
:^
life is :^ good.
Quote from: Dave5Cs on May 29, 2022, 03:05:14 PM
This is why I don't do fakebook and now wondering about here?
Hey I do think a lot of us are calcified old farts and prior to the internet if we were weird we would get shouted down at the local bar or VFW hall.
The problem with the internet is that everyone can reach out for positive reinforcement to others of like bent or weirdness.
I do think that social media has actually been detriment.
As an ex serviceman I considered myself a John McCain republican duty loyalty and country, every conversation I have had with a MAGA republican lately is that doesn't exist anymore!!!!
So where the hell does that leave me? Do I need to exercise some common sense or start drinking the toxic cool aid?
Note I was a republican because of the shame of being supported by welfare as a first and second grader and after that boot strapped myself out of that situation. Me and my employees have paid millions of taxes over the last 30 years.
So hell yeah I more than paid back the welfare that supported me as child and even for the equipment I used while I was in the service.
Anyway let's get off the soap box and go back to talking about the heavy metal that is our social service with our recycled buses!!!
Should this be my last post, yes or no?
Quote from: Dave5Cs on May 29, 2022, 03:05:14 PM
This is why I don't do fakebook and now wondering about here?
Thread drift, wrong section of the Board, Moderated?
Never mind.
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
GENTLEMEN - START YOUR BUSES!
and go somewhere... Anywhere! 8)
Quote from: belfert on May 24, 2022, 07:44:59 AM
I just read something the other day that dealers of ATVs, UTVs, and other similar toys are begging manufacturers for more inventory as they can sell everything they can get.
Brian that's because banks are loaning $ hand over fists and people are borrowing like crazy not caring if they can repay or NOT!
I've actually had 2 different home owners we were building for tell me straight out
"If things get to bad, we'll pack up and walk away, it won't be the end of the world!"But remember when things get too rough those same banks will be crying for and getting bail outs just like last time!
;D BK ;D
Ditto with DT Cerrato. I hope Alaska is treating you well. And Chessie is headed your way? We scaled back on long trips this year, but not parking the bus. Topped off last week and about to claw our way through Chattanooga and Nashville next week on the way to meet RogertGlines in Evansville at the steam show. Maybe see the Greyhound terminal that is now a hot dog stand?
I don't think we are wealthy but I am retired military, drawing Soc Sec, and we have no kids. Perhaps the third item is far more draining than I realize. But we bought this bus to use it. I did not survive 25 years in the military to sit around now. Prices are a pain, but not going to make us park the bus. Trying to live by the idea that life is not a rehearsal. I had to miss Loudonville last year due to a little melanoma on my head, due to be cut off the day after the Flxible parade. Didn't go to Ohio because nothing was going to be fun until the surgery was over. 65 this summer. Time to get busy living! Five years from now I will remember meeting Robert Glines and seeing the steam show. I won't remember what fuel cost me.
When you have to pull in for fuel, remember three things:
You can't take it with you
You can't come back and get it
Calculate how much you need when you're dead.
194.9/l at Nelson in Saskatchewan. About $5.76/gallon
Chessie we need more.
More about frost heaves and the moose that made you hit the jake. DT is already up there. He's got nothin' until he is coming back.
You are the big happening on the roll right now. Make stuff up if you have to about a repair you didn't really do. Forget about fuel. We need some bus stuff! My one day drive to Evansville next week will be a yawner that no one will tune in to.
I hope all is well with you and your bus as you roll north. At least somebody is out there doing big things!
(respectfully submitted)
Tedsoldbus
sorry, coach is at home. won't risk a breakdown miles from home $$$$ to repair. GMC Duramax and travel trailer. Do miss my coach though.🥲
Part of the adventure is the risk IMHO. The 1st trip was a duzzy - lots of breakdowns, the next two trips were uneventful and we enjoyed not getting our coveralls out. It was 80°F today. Lots of sun and the place is rockin' with RVs pouring in - not continuous but in spurts. The bus is our full time home right now. Days are really long and getting longer. Working on an interior build-out of our tiny shelter 12 to 15 hours a day is kicking my butt - but not w/o progress. The shelter is 8'x8' on grade that sits on a sub earth crib of logs which houses the well, electric, septic, phone & data. The build-out will yield hot & cold running water, sink, toilet, shower, bunk, wood stove , oil burning furnace, yada yada. We're hitting it hard to get er dun so we can frolic and play a little. Safe travels Chessie.
Risk? How about engine or transmission repair/replacement 5k from home in say halfway up Alcan highway. Not going to risk it in my coach. Manageable in truck. Especially now that fewer places will work on them. If I still owned our 4104, I would take it. They are almost dead reliable.
Quote from: chessie4905 on June 02, 2022, 07:25:15 AM
Risk? How about engine or transmission repair/replacement 5k from home in say halfway up Alcan highway. Not going to risk it in my coach. Manageable in truck. Especially now that fewer places will work on them. If I still owned our 4104, I would take it. They are almost dead reliable.
Dan did multiple major repairs to his that many miles from home his first trip up there.
Then when he got home he did a complete rebuild on his 671 and ain't had to work on it since.
SO either enjoy the trip now (possibly w/repairs), or rebuild then go for it.
But the point is sitting around procrastinating about it ain't getting it done, adapt and overcome!
:D BK :D
I've been watching some of the Youtubers out there that are converting buses and living in them. However, there is one that is doing all that, but when they go on vacation (yes, that's in their videos too) the bus stays at home and they rent expensive hotels. Sometimes I wonder if they are planning to have it permanently parked and maybe the conversion is just for show. I know that it is getting very expensive to drive the bus with fuels costs and with the possibility of breakdowns, but I am just chomping at the bit to get the bus out on its first trip! I know it's not for everyone, but 'll take out a loan if I have to, or just take short trips, or whatever. I literally dream about that first trip out!
$5.21 here now!
Ted's comment shares my thinking in that for those of us getting older, time matters more every year. I'm struggling deeply with this right now, sitting on the fence about clicking on the book an expedition to Soon Dong Caves in Vietnam, not a bus trip, folks. I wanted to go before COVID but now 3 years out since openings are for 2023, I frankly am not sure I am up to it physically at 67.
I still hope I can have the confidence to just do it but I have to feel I can endure the many days of trekking through the jungle and cave system. Sure there are porters and all but you still have to expend a lot to just follow along. their requirements make one think pretty hard before clicking "Let's go!" oh - morale of the story is if COVID did not happen I was all up for it and in better shape.
Quote from: windtrader on June 02, 2022, 08:58:33 PM
Ted's comment shares my thinking in that for those of us getting older, time matters more every year. I'm struggling deeply with this right now, sitting on the fence about clicking on the book an expedition to Soon Dong Caves in Vietnam, not a bus trip, folks. I wanted to go before COVID but now 3 years out since openings are for 2023, I frankly am not sure I am up to it physically at 67.
I still hope I can have the confidence to just do it but I have to feel I can endure the many days of trekking through the jungle and cave system. Sure there are porters and all but you still have to expend a lot to just follow along. their requirements make one think pretty hard before clicking "Let's go!" oh - morale of the story is if COVID did not happen I was all up for it and in better shape.
67 I wish don't let age stop you Don @ 83 I am planning make a parachute jump to fill one more Item on the bucket list Gary Hatt was going with me but he needs to lose a few pounds first :^ or jump by his self
Clifford Knew that was comin? LOL :^
Just go second Clifford and you will have something soft to land on. :^ :)
Clifford the Air Force will let you jump (tandem) for free, they even have cargo chutes for Gary :^ :o :o
A very close friend of mine with over a 1000 jumps met his demise on a burn in. Main chute failed and reserve didn't have enough air to deploy. He debarked a giant live oak horizontal limb just before touch down. Was gone before he hit the ground. He always tried to get me to jump but never did. I guess I'd rather have the bus break down in bumphuck Egypt than jump out of a perfectly good airplane. :o
When asked about jumping out of a good airplane my reply is that I would rather be the pilot!!!
For a short time in my time in the Marine Corps, I went to Ft Benning to jump school. I did 17 jumps after that. (They were all night jumps because my eyes were closed). I didn't like it but once in the cute it is very quiet. All my jumps were static line. No sky diving stuff. You can put a bag of potatoes in a static line chute, throw it out of the airplane, and it opens. I was "concerned" when I jumped out of planes.
But I also went to 6 weeks of Navy Scuba school. I was genuinely frightened enough to cry like a little girl on my Scuba Qualification dive. 130 feet off the coast of San Diego. We just went down a big rope to the bottom which looked like the moon. Stayed for 10 minutes, and back up the rope. The pressure on my body and mask and the cold had me really worried. If your chute does not open you have the rest of your life to get that reserve open. I'll do that. But at 130 feet under water, if run you out of air....
Don't take away my air. Not my air.
So if my 6V92 makes a loud bang on the way to Evansville next week, I'll be concerned. But I still have air.
Ah, I get it now. The older you get the more you select lower and lower strenuous activities to add to the bucket list. Keep going and taking a spin around the block in a motorized wheel chair becomes exciting. Not knocking sky diving but hardly a workout. Jump out, let gravity do all the work, then pull a ripcord. That is if you are solo, tandem you are just a spectator. again, no harm here but this is apples and daisies.
Quote from: windtrader on June 03, 2022, 03:45:21 PM
Ah, I get it now. The older you get the more you select lower and lower strenuous activities to add to the bucket list. Keep going and taking a spin around the block in a motorized wheel chair becomes exciting. Not knocking sky diving but hardly a workout. Jump out, let gravity do all the work, then pull a ripcord. That is if you are solo, tandem you are just a spectator. again, no harm here but this is apples and daisies.
Not here I get my workout pulling 250 ft lbs with a torque wrench stay busy and live longer is a good recipe for life .Sky diving is something I wanted to do for 50 years and I am going to do it come hell or high water
Awesome! Enjoy the dive, it'll be a trill for sure.
Entered Alberta today. Fuel 1.82.9L. About 5.55 US. Tar sands capital. Enjoy Yellow head highway. Railroad tracks parallel most of the way so far since Winnepeg. Light traffic away from cities. Road from some poor sections to excellent on many long sections. Rest mostly good. Very flat mostly. Interesting scenery. Several collections of 50's vehicles along highway. One 50 miles west of Saskatoon had at least 100 50's pickups. Many provincial parks campgrounds along the way and others. Prices lower than in US. Haven't seen any over 1\4 full yet.
I saw my first $7/gal diesel posted at a Mobil near here a few days ago.
John
Quote from: Iceni John on June 04, 2022, 05:02:28 PM
I saw my first $7/gal diesel posted at a Mobil near here a few days ago.
John
Are you in California?
Quote from: Iceni John on June 04, 2022, 05:02:28 PM
I saw my first $7/gal diesel posted at a Mobil near here a few days ago.
John
Diesel is closing in on 8 bucks a gal in Needle CA,oil selling for $120.00 barrel for WTI headed up no relief for June or July in sight
Quote from: luvrbus on June 04, 2022, 05:27:47 PM
Diesel is closing in on 8 bucks a gal in Needle CA,oil selling for $120.00 barrel for WTI headed up no relief for June or July in sight
I am very glad that I have 200 gallon tank so I can drive through CA without having to buy any fuel!!!
Just crossed into Oregon for some provisions and a top off. Good thing it was not as empty as the needle indicated. Bad thing it was still near 6/gallon and a $799 receipt. Just don't like how it makes me feel. lol
Quote from: freds on June 04, 2022, 07:20:48 PM
I am very glad that I have 200 gallon tank so I can drive through CA without having to buy any fuel!!!
Arizona used to stick the tanks entering and exiting the state and tax you on the fuel used in state.
Quote from: Lee Bradley on June 07, 2022, 07:15:23 AM
Arizona used to stick the tanks entering and exiting the state and tax you on the fuel used in state.
AZ doesn't do that any longer,don't look for any help I see July futures in oil are around the $120.00 a barrel mark ,we still get 8 cents a gal off at the RV pumps though lol that will probably go away before long
With the adoption of IFTA most states were able to stop doing things like this and still get paid for fuel burned in their states. Commercial drivers can fill up anywhere, and the taxes paid will work out in the end - the computerized system works its magic and you pay for where you actually drive.
We as non-commercial drivers are the ones that have to be careful and fill up before entering states with higher fuel taxes if we want to save a few pennies.
Some states like OR have mileage taxes trucks can use the cab permit RV'ers pay the extra taxes on fill up it was 25 cents above the posted price at truck stops
In Dawson creek for a couple of days. Fuel is around $ 2.06 to $2.19/ litre. $7.98 to $8.48 cdn/ gallon
$6.25 to $6.63 US Dollars.
All I've got to say about skydiving is that it was a big let down.
Jim
Normally when we get home from down south some time in March the last thing we do is fill up our fuel tanks. So next winter we can make down south without getting fuel. This year I think the price of diesel was somewhere around $4.50 per gallon. I filled our 100 gallon tank but I just couldn't fill the 85 gallon aux tank. It just hurt me too bad. So I decided to wait until the fall. The price is sure to be a lot lower then. Oops, I think I may have made a mistake.
This is starting to cramp my style. My highway days may be over. I've got about 25,000 miles on WVO but you can't find it anymore.
We can only hope.
Jerry
RV fuel here has reached $5.50 a gal ,frignn alfa hay since I quit growing is now $408.00 a ton in the field there goes the price of milk, butter,cheese,ice cream and your beef
I think SS COLA better increase 75% next year lol.
What hit me upside the head recently is how out of whack diesel prices are now. We can easily drop a couple grand on a very modest trip. You can get a ticket to hawaii for 400 and a room for 1400. So it costs less the fly to hawaii for a week than drive the bus. WTF - we live in an upside down world for sure. I really am scared where this all ends up
"So it costs less the fly to hawaii for a week than drive the bus."
Wow, that must be some bus ya got there if you can drive it to hawaii. :) :)
Quote from: Fred Mc on June 12, 2022, 09:08:48 PM
"So it costs less the fly to hawaii for a week than drive the bus."
Wow, that must be some bus ya got there if you can drive it to hawaii. :) :)
Wow thats almost 400 gallons of fuel, yup cheaper to fly.
We have a small antique metal sign that says: Home is where we park it - soo we guess we can't say "Wonder if we'll have enough ($$$ & fuel) to make it home!? LOL
Yep glad we are parked right now even though diesel is only $4.89 here. :^
Dawson city, we paid $2.20 litre. Currently at Fort Nelson. last night, two seperate groups of about 25 each pulled in. They are both a caravan group. Mostly Diesel pushers, couple 5th wheel, a tt and one slide in. Talked to one lady. They are pretty organized, they all use radios, go at individual pace, have designated meeting and stopping points, and last guy keeps track of any rigs with issues. Glad we got here before them, as we got one of the pull throughs. About half of them had to unhook toad and back into a space.Both groups have a approx. 10" colorful round sticker affixed to top of windshield with a 2 digit large number. They depart campgrounds at each pace, fortunately. Don't want to get behind a wagon train.
No relief in sight for July oil closed at $122.00 for July delivery lol we have Joe working on it though
Biden and the masses keep trying to blame big oil, between the well and your tank their are more hands touching product than a lap dancer at a bachelor party. And they're all making their margins, like every other successful business.
Stayed at Coal River rv park. Park is adequate for one night. It has a small 4 table restaurant. Had supper there. it was decent. When we left got some fuel for insurance, as fuel stops are far apart in this section. $2.49.9 /L. WOW. Currently at Watson lake with all the signs from everywhere. Incredible! There are 88,000 signs there as of 2018. It now looks more like a sign forest. Fuel here at $2.27/L.
Fuel does get scarce & more expensive in that neck of the woods. It's always a good idea to run on the top 1/2 of the tank. 10-4 on the sign forest - a unique setting, signs from everywhere! - did you walk up & down the isles?
spent almost two hours. Kalamazoo, Penn State, several other location I've heard of. Even some towns Cliffs has mentioned in the past, etc.
heading to Tesin tomorrow, two nights, then to Whitehorse.
Teslin, there's Wolf Creek CG coming into Whitehorse on the right side we enjoy - no hook ups but great campsites on the creek & free split firewood - they fill up fast. Used to do Walmart & the Canadian tire there but they are less RV friendly now.
Will you be doing the top of the world highway through Dawson City (Taylor Highway) free ferry over the Yukon River? A puckering experience and alternate to the atrocious stretch of Alcan for over 100 miles in Yukon/Alaska (pot holes & frost heaves).
Current diesel average price in the US: 5.805
Is this price high enough to make you question bus ownership?
Is the market on used buses going to soften up?
I have been told that the cost of fuel is a minor part of the expense of a bus. We are doing all of our normal travels this year and then some.
Some years are more expensive than others but that is part of the adventure.
Melbo
I agree with Melbo but I am staying parked for a bit. I might do something that sends me to prison if a Roe vs. Wade rioter throws a brick through my windshield. When did it become ok in this country to burn things if you don't like something? At least now I can take my Glock through NY when we go to Maine. The R vs W thing today made everyone forget about that little decision yesterday....
Buses: Do any of you put battery blankets on your engine run batteries? After driving all day back from Evansville, I checked the connections on my run batteries and the batteries were toasty since they are in the engine compartment. Doesn't that shorten their life?? I see some blankets advertised in FMCA and then looked at Amazon, but guessing it is so hot after a day in Detroit Diesel land, nothing keeps them from being hot, hot, hot???
Price of fuel hurts lots of people,some it don't the average bus gets 5 to 7 mpg leaves little room for improvements and up keep on a bus buying tires and batteries.My buddy is leased to Hemphill for entertainers he has doubled his fees,Rver's don't have that luxury so they park the rv. You don't see many on the road now 5th wheels, class A or the class C rentals even the RV parks are not full.Buses will lose their value they have been enjoying for the past few years
Ted, i would consider a heat shield for the batteries, but do NOT encase them in some manner, they have to shed their own heat from charging.
Something simple to block the radiant and blown heat onto them will make a difference. Get the IR gun out and do some half a$$ed experiments?
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Ted's, I thought you were taking your brick throwing comments to the appropriate section. Why would they pick your bus to throw at? When There are prison buses, police RVs, Mitch McConnells limousine, and Brett Kavenaughs Edsel car, to throw poop filled ballons?
Dawson creek $2.44.9/ litre.
Just returned from a trip from Cedar City, Ut. to Grants Pass, Or. ,, then to Salt Lake City, Ut. to Cedar City and home.. Planned the trip prior to compare the cost of using my truck for the trip or the motorhome.. Truck gets 19 MPG on gas,, motorhome gets 10 MPG on diesel..
After adding fuel for each,, lodging and restaurants for the truck against using rest stops and eating in the coach, the result was lop sided for the coach,, so off we went for 8 days....
Total trip cost $1000.00...
Added advantage,,,,home cooking,, no bed bugs ,,and took the dog along for no charge..>>>Dan
dont forget that those home cooked meals still required buying the groceries.
Quote from: chessie4905 on June 26, 2022, 07:37:51 AM
dont forget that those home cooked meals still required buying the groceries.
Plus, a cook and dishwasher
Quote from: chessie4905 on June 26, 2022, 07:37:51 AM
dont forget that those home cooked meals still required buying the groceries.
Plus, a cook and dishwasher
Yes and groceries are about one fifth of the cost of the restaurant, taste better, have better company, don't have to wait in line, and you know they were properly prepared. But don't get me wrong I really don't mind paying 10 dollars for a fast food hamburger and wonder who handled it last(sarcasm note).
That is why we travel in the bus and are much happier.
Melbo
Quote from: Melbo on June 26, 2022, 08:34:37 AM
Yes and groceries are about one fifth of the cost of the restaurant, taste better, have better company, don't have to wait in line, and you know they were properly prepared. But don't get me wrong I really don't mind paying 10 dollars for a fast food hamburger and wonder who handled it last(sarcasm note).
That is why we travel in the bus and are much happier.
Melbo where do buy groceries for a 1/5 of the price of a restaurant,we don't do fast food much,Sonja does not eat fast food never has ,me I can do 7-11 without a problem,went to buy a steak to grill last night friggn 18 bucks a pound for steak ,you need to give Billie a raise lol she works to cheap :^
One of my points was the stupid cost of a motel today,, makes the cost of fuel pale in comparison.. >>>Dan
One big factor is distance and time. The greater the distance and the shorter length of stay are huge variables in the financial cost comparisons. The shorter the distance and longer the stay, driving the bus wins. Taking a plane is far cheaper and faster when needing to go 1500 miles on a one week trip. Even throwing in the other factors like "eat at home" and no disgruntled cook spitting in your food or lice in the hotel bed, there are plenty of times when leaving the bus at home works out better.
How about really long traveled trips for a really long time? Win win? Or lose lose?
I am flying to Kenai Alaska to do some fishing for 4 days and no way would I drive for a week to fish lol and 4 days is about all I can stand on the Kenai River and Beaver Creek,I don't care for Kenai much not much different in day time and night time temperatures in that area this time of the year lol 60's beat 114 though
Quote from: dtcerrato on June 26, 2022, 12:12:20 PM
How about really long traveled trips for a really long time? Win win? Or lose lose?
Dan, There are various reasons people decide to take their bus, financial, necessity, pleasure, etc. Only you can make the call. You have the numbers how much actual direct costs and wear and tear taking the bus up and back. I'd bet a round trip ticket booked in advance would cost less. You hauled a lot of materials and such. Buying local would cost more but you save some by not hauling from one corner of the USA to the other. lots of other factors, you know better than I. Ask yourself when you are a couple days out from the long trip home, was it worth it or not? I think I'd be dreaming being on a plane having a meal, a couple drinks and a movie or two, and being home a bit sooner. The one leg would check the "seeing the country" box. but that is me.
Quote from: windtrader on June 26, 2022, 01:04:56 PM
Buying local would cost more but you save some by not hauling from one corner of the USA to the other.
Buying local is no longer possible because all the local producers that have been put out of business. Case in point you want cedar shingles for your roof, where are they produced?
Part of it is the shingle slicing machine that enables the production doesn't meet worker safety standards and that it's impossible to design and sell a safer machine because the market can't bear the cost because of cheaper alternatives shipped from X thousands miles away.
Of course Elon Musk's human shaped robot that he is planning to produce could fill in and hey it would never file a workmen's compensation claim until some robot lawyer got involved!!!
If that is ever the case I will become a sniper...
Ok we are all fairly much old farts, how about a separate topic area named "Rants"? And to be politically correct it could be "Male Rants", "Female Rants" and "Other social Rants" LOL?
Ok I am going to shut up for a week....
Quote from: windtrader on June 26, 2022, 01:04:56 PM
Dan, There are various reasons people decide to take their bus, financial, necessity, pleasure, etc. Only you can make the call. You have the numbers how much actual direct costs and wear and tear taking the bus up and back. I'd bet a round trip ticket booked in advance would cost less. You hauled a lot of materials and such. Buying local would cost more but you save some by not hauling from one corner of the USA to the other. lots of other factors, you know better than I. Ask yourself when you are a couple days out from the long trip home, was it worth it or not? I think I'd be dreaming being on a plane having a meal, a couple drinks and a movie or two, and being home a bit sooner. The one leg would check the "seeing the country" box. but that is me.
A round trip flight even FL to AK booked in advance would be many many thousands of $$ cheaper we already looked into that even with minibus or puddle jumper flights to shuttle us between Tok & Fairbanks (4 hrs. one way). So far this trip we're on now has been all work & no play & it's starting to get to us - especially wifey. After the July 4th holiday we're going to VACATE the working compound and galavant. The strategy is to complete an interior buildout on a tiny structure 8'x8' in the finish two stories - walk in on grade with a sub earth crib under that houses all the electrical, waterwell, septic line, telephone & data cables, & root cellar storage. On grade space has hot & cold running water, sink, shower, toilet, small bed, & tiny wood stove, and a fuel oil furnace.
The first AK trip in 2016 awestruck us to the point where we were going to sell the principal ponderosa in FL & buy a log home kit in Tok AK & have it erected on our 1.5 A parcel.. The 2019 trip we established all the essential utilities - ie: pump down the existing well, hook up power, septic and establish full hook up campsite for the bus. Then we ALL know all roo well what happened between 2019 & now which really has flip-flopped a lot of our priorities. No sale in FL & hunker down then. No large home in Tok AK either but enough up here to be able to fly back in & be self sufficient. Our next door neighbors here in Tok are really great friends and has offered us the use of their detached guest cabin that has everything but running water - it's only 100' from our little "all utilities" shelter. So to end this rant - we set ourselves up to deal with this damned fuel crisis just in case it doesn't get any better. We've driven here 3 times in the last 6 years = three years in between each trip with all trips 6 mo. long. Next year we can fly for a fraction of the drive and there will be a small 4x4 SUV (our 2nd toad) in the garage here waiting for us. No bus :o
Glad to hear you are still a sane person with gray mass still sloshing around in that ball stuck on your shoulders. Sometimes that saying "enjoy the journey, not the destination" is now worn out for you folks. LOL
We have several friends that make the trip every year Dan from AZ and NV to Alaska and back,enjoy life doing what makes you happy. I haven't been there for years and looking forward to the trip,My trip is like Don's dream trip flying in G lV Gulfstream no TSA to deal with,I am just glad I am not paying for fuel for plane.Enjoy life it is so short
In Canada, costs of groceries is pretty high. Even after exchange rate.
If you rent motel, take along hotplate and cook your meals. If you are single, YOU are doing the cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc. 10 mpg, what engine/trans/ coach combo are you figuring? also don't forget to factor wear/ maintenance/ insurance costs in the comparasion.
Quote from: luvrbus on June 26, 2022, 08:47:37 AM
Melbo where do buy groceries for a 1/5 of the price of a restaurant,we don't do fast food much,Sonja does not eat fast food never has ,me I can do 7-11 without a problem,went to buy a steak to grill last night friggn 18 bucks a pound for steak
You're absolutely right Clifford, rib eyes and t-bones are stupid if you buy them ready to grill but if you're willing to cut your own ....
We buy cryovacced lumps of beef at Costco - rump roasts work well. Costco often packages them in 20 or 30# vac packs or bigger. Take them home, chuck them in the back of the fridge and leave them there for at least 3 weeks, 4 is better. Then open them up and cut them into steaks and normal sized roasts. I can't remember exactly what we last paid but its below $10/lb or we don't do it. Lower cost per pound and no wasted weight in the bone.
Today Mohave County Az.
diesel in Tok Ak. is listed at $6.09 / gallon. Currently at Chicken Ak. after crossing top of the world highway which runs for over 100 miles on the mountain tops on packed dirt and gravel road. No guard rails or berms to pull over on, shoulders are soft. Fortunately, traffic is very light. Only were passed or traffic other way about 20 vehicles or rigs. Road was dry and dusty. some 10% grades up or down in places. When we crossed the border, road was nicely paved for about 10 miles, then changed back to dirt. it became narrower, curvier and more potholes and frost heaves. We weren't in a hurry, spent most of crossing at 35 to 40 mph. Took 4 1/2 hours. The views are fantastic, well worth the trip. Truck and tt coverd in hevy dust. Town of Chicken consists of a mercantile, a bar, and a restaurant. three little connected shacks. Not even milk or bread is available here. At least very few mosquitoes. Tok tomorrow.
Quote from: chessie4905 on June 27, 2022, 11:48:10 PM
diesel in Tok Ak. is listed at $6.09 / gallon. Currently at Chicken Ak. after crossing top of the world highway which runs for over 100 miles on the mountain tops on packed dirt and gravel road. No guard rails or berms to pull over on, shoulders are soft. Fortunately, traffic is very light. Only were passed or traffic other way about 20 vehicles or rigs. Road was dry and dusty. some 10% grades up or down in places. When we crossed the border, road was nicely paved for about 10 miles, then changed back to dirt. it became narrower, curvier and more potholes and frost heaves. We weren't in a hurry, spent most of crossing at 35 to 40 mph. Took 4 1/2 hours. The views are fantastic, well worth the trip. Truck and tt coverd in hevy dust. Town of Chicken consists of a mercantile, a bar, and a restaurant. three little connected shacks. Not even milk or bread is available here. At least very few mosquitoes. Tok tomorrow.
Sent you a PM
How was the ferry?!
Safe travels
The ferry was fine, but we were in line twice held up while the boat was refuelled and another truck emptied the boats holding tank. Basically a flat bodied boat with a small pilot house. Holds a 40 foot rig with toad and about 6 or seven cars and trucks, couple people, and one or two motorcycles. River moves pretty fast here, so boat ends ub making a large arc getting to other shore, about 500 feet. They have dozers and big pile of dirt on either side to raise or lower dirt ramp according to water level. A little rough crossing from steel deck ramp to dirt. one trip,cthey threw a couple planks down so rear of tt wouldn't drag.
Crossing is free of charge by Yukon govt.