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Title: worn door hinge
Post by: Sebulba on April 17, 2022, 07:01:32 PM
Hello all,

Not going to tackle this right now, but wondering what may be involved.

As it looks our cafe door is 1/2 to maybe 3/4 inch low. I'm hoping maybe there is a worn hinge bushing that needs to be replaced?

Anybody ever deal with anything like this and what is the best approach to solving this.

Thank

Seb
Title: Re: worn door hinge
Post by: Runcutter on April 18, 2022, 06:43:27 AM
Seb, please post a photo if you can. 

I've dealt with a variety of hinges as part of my woodworking hobby, and think I have a picture of your situation -- but I'm not sure.  A broad view of the doors and close-up of the hinges would be helpful.   

Arthur
Title: Re: worn door hinge
Post by: Sebulba on April 22, 2022, 11:51:12 AM
Quote from: Runcutter on April 18, 2022, 06:43:27 AM
Seb, please post a photo if you can. 

I've dealt with a variety of hinges as part of my woodworking hobby, and think I have a picture of your situation -- but I'm not sure.  A broad view of the doors and close-up of the hinges would be helpful.   

Arthur

The hinge point is pretty much hidden.  I'm not even sure if there is a way to see it without removing the door and hinge

Seb
Title: Re: worn door hinge
Post by: Glennman on April 22, 2022, 12:17:47 PM
Hey Seb... I replaced my double doors with a sedan door on my '02 MCI in the last year or so. The door came off a bus like yours. The hinge assembly is basically made up of 2 parts (two hinges). The upper hinge is extremely heavy duty, and has lots of adjustment on it. It can be adjusted at the door where the 6 holes that attach to the door are elongated in every direction. I cannot see the hinge point wearing out, as it is pretty solid at the corner of the bus where it attaches. The lower hinge at the bottom has similar adjustments, and they are almost infinite. I don't know why, but the lower hinge is pretty light duty, and it seems it could break easily, being that it is relatively light cast material. At any rate, the hinges are very adjustable. When I made the switch to the sedan door, I bought a new gasket assembly from MCI (actually FPI). During the installation, even though the hinges were flexible in their adjustment, I had to find a sweet spot within a 1/16" where it finally worked with no issues. I had to adjust it about 100 times before I finally got it right. Crazy! If your door is sagging, it is probably just in the adjustment somewhere.
Title: Re: worn door hinge
Post by: Sebulba on April 22, 2022, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: Glennman on April 22, 2022, 12:17:47 PM
Hey Seb... I replaced my double doors with a sedan door on my '02 MCI in the last year or so. The door came off a bus like yours. The hinge assembly is basically made up of 2 parts (two hinges). The upper hinge is extremely heavy duty, and has lots of adjustment on it. It can be adjusted at the door where the 6 holes that attach to the door are elongated in every direction. I cannot see the hinge point wearing out, as it is pretty solid at the corner of the bus where it attaches. The lower hinge at the bottom has similar adjustments, and they are almost infinite. I don't know why, but the lower hinge is pretty light duty, and it seems it could break easily, being that it is relatively light cast material. At any rate, the hinges are very adjustable. When I made the switch to the sedan door, I bought a new gasket assembly from MCI (actually FPI). During the installation, even though the hinges were flexible in their adjustment, I had to find a sweet spot within a 1/16" where it finally worked with no issues. I had to adjust it about 100 times before I finally got it right. Crazy! If your door is sagging, it is probably just in the adjustment somewhere.

Hmmm, I will explore that, but it's not just that it's out of alignment, but there is a lot of play in it too.  I can wiggle the door quite a bit when open.

Thank

Seb
Title: Re: worn door hinge
Post by: Runcutter on April 23, 2022, 07:36:39 AM
The term "cafe door" had me thinking in a totally different direction -- an interior door swinging in both directions (think the saloon in any western movie). 

If it's the exterior door on anything other than a GMC Coach, I have no clue.  Even on GMC's, I could only answer to the extent that it would be in one of the maintenance manuals I have in the collection.

Arthur