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Title: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: David Anderson on January 22, 2022, 08:30:31 PM
Leaving the Balloonfest at lake Havasu Monday to Quartzsite. Next Friday heading to Cottonwood.  I don't want to repeat I10 from Buckeye through Phoenix. The road there was awful going westbound through the construction. Dare I take the coach through AZ89 through Prescott?
Looks pretty rugged.  My next choice would be US60 to AZ303 loop around Phoenix then climb the hill up I17.
David
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on January 23, 2022, 03:31:56 AM
Don't take the bus on 89 to Prescott, lot of slow curves, there may be a length limit too.  If you don't want to do I-10 all of the way to Goodyear, doing 60 to Morristown and then 74 to 17 and then up to Camp Verde is slower but a lot less traffic. From Camp Verde to Cottonwood there are something like 9 roundabouts that you go thru. Mileage is about the same either way. 
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on January 23, 2022, 03:37:58 AM
And don't even think about going from Prescott to Jerome to get to Cottonwood!!!
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: luvrbus on January 23, 2022, 06:06:36 AM
Take the 101N around hit Phoenix between 10 am and 3 pm and boogie,you can go through Wickenburg from Quartzsite to I 17 to Camp Verde and across with no traffic but you have a long grade for about 10 miles after Black Canyon on 17 just take your time it  it's cool so heating is not problem. Me I would go I 40 to Kingman then across to Wickenburg to I17 to Camp Verde   
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on January 23, 2022, 06:33:54 AM
Clifford, why would you go that way?  Quartzsite to Wickenburg is 92 miles.  Quartzsite to Kingman, 132 miles, and Kingman to Wickenburg is another 131 miles. 
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: luvrbus on January 23, 2022, 06:51:06 AM
I thought David was in Quartzsite till I read he in Havasu I couldn't figure out why he wanting to go I10 if he was in Havasu getting to 10 is the long way around, get on I40 from Havasu to Kingman,to Wickenburg to 74 (30 mi ) to I17 to Camp Verde,people do take the long routes for change the desert is boring as hell,Cotton Wood is only 17 miles off the 17 if he goes the CornVille road,he is leaving from QS on 10 he has several choices he can go 60 to Globe and across,it is nice drive but it is 150 miles across     
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: usbusin on January 23, 2022, 08:01:21 AM
Sounds to me that he is leaving from Quartzsite on Friday. Maybe he can clarify.
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: David Anderson on January 23, 2022, 08:05:33 AM
Yes, leaving the Q next Friday.

Thanks guys. I figured AZ89 was a no go. I will do US60 east to the 303 around Phoenix to I17.

The trucks on I10 are about 9 to 1 over cars. It's really crowded on 10.  Getting like I35 between San Antonio and Dallas.😵‍💫
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: David Anderson on January 23, 2022, 08:14:14 AM
I looked at the map again and AZ74 looks good. I will jump on it at Morristown. Thanks again 👍
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: luvrbus on January 23, 2022, 08:23:35 AM
That is the best David cut across to Wickenburg about 20 miles east of Quartzsite off of I10 and you miss the Phoenix traffic
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: David Anderson on January 23, 2022, 11:33:22 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on January 23, 2022, 08:23:35 AM
That is the best David cut across to Wickenburg about 20 miles east of Quartzsite off of I10 and you miss the Phoenix traffic
Thanks Clifford.
We've been at the Balloonfest all week and nothing but wind.  So I missed the eagle rally at Q but head there Monday.  Probably will stay at Rice Ranch near I10. Sorry  I missed out hanging with the "birds" 🦅
David
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: windtrader on January 23, 2022, 06:08:52 PM
Dave, the route shows a longer trip but faster so must be far less curvy and slow. Calc done with G maps

Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on January 23, 2022, 06:22:01 PM
Don, he doesn't want to do 1-10.  And your other route takes him thru Jerome....and he definitely doesn't want to do that!!!  Needs to take it to Wickenburg, then to Morristown, then 74 to the 303 for a few miles and then up I-17 the rest of the way.

Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: luvrbus on January 23, 2022, 06:50:48 PM
Why the 303, Lake Pleasant highway (74 ) dead ends at I 17 at the mall (30 miles), then he heads N on I 17 or he can cut 5 miles off the trip by going the New River highway to I 17 from highway 74 then he heads N on I 17,I think the 303 is closed till Wed he better check it
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on January 24, 2022, 04:33:41 AM
My mistake, i was thinking that 74 tied into the 303 and then into the 17.  As far as taking the New River shortcut,  i use it coming south but going north i go around the longer way if i am towing anything or using the bus. I don't like the on ramp, you have to stop or slow down to make a left to get on it, it goes up a short hill to get on 17 and you can't see the traffic to merge until you are almost at the top.  You won't be going very fast and it has a short merge lane and if there is a lot of traffic they may not let you in.
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: luvrbus on January 24, 2022, 05:00:56 AM
He must be following the balloons trail from Lake Havasu,there were alot of balloons around Wickenburg and on 74 before I 17 ,no wind today so they will be up and flying in a few hours   
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: buswarrior on January 24, 2022, 06:25:05 AM
Quote from: Ed Hackenbruch on January 24, 2022, 04:33:41 AM
.... if there is a lot of traffic they may not let you in.

Eh? Like hell...

When the elephant takes a line, walking thru the jungle, the smaller critters don't get stepped on...

When the elephant dithers, well, nobody knows what anyone is doing then.

Take a thoughtful line, solidly held, body language communicates that a trajectory is established, signal is on, and maintain course. They'll let you in, because it is clear there is no choice.

Shy away, you become the meal.

Got to figure, it only gets worse, for both you and some more traffic, if you don't get out there?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior


Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on January 24, 2022, 07:17:40 AM
The problem with that spot is it is narrowed down to 2 lanes, rising in elevation, and going faster than than you can go at that point. A lot of times they are riding each others bumper and there is no way you can "bull" your way in. You have to wait for a good gap to occur.   
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: luvrbus on January 24, 2022, 07:27:17 AM
Isn't that section 3 or 4 lanes now they were working on it a couple of years ago
Title: Re: Route from Quatzsite to Cottonwood AZ
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on January 24, 2022, 05:57:25 PM
I was on it a couple of times last spring when moving stuff down here and it was still 2 lanes there.....it really needs to have 2 more added.