A question what the hell is a solid state battery here in valley you see different cars and truck being tested.Tonight I saw a EV being tested with solid state batteries it was covered so I couldn't see what brand it was,the driver told me they were testing the new batteries and building a plant in Texas or Az
Tesla is building a Battery plant where they will be building their newest battery which is not Lion or anything like that. It will come in a roll thats all I know from watching their battery day video a few months ago.
Quote from: Dave5Cs on November 30, 2021, 06:36:04 PM
Tesla is building a Battery plant where they will be building their newest battery which is not Lion or anything like that. It will come in a roll thats all I know from watching their battery day video a few months ago.
No need to rush out and buy the LifePo if something better is coming huh
Quote from: luvrbus on November 30, 2021, 06:42:50 PM
No need to rush out and buy the LifePo if something better is coming huh
Yeah! As soon as they can unload the components off ;Dthose container ships ROFLMAO! ;D
Quote from: Van on November 30, 2021, 07:10:01 PM
Yeah! As soon as they can unload the components off ;Dthose container ships ROFLMAO! ;D
Must be a ship load of 3M 1300 sealant on the boats cost me $32.00 for a 5 oz tube was the best price I could find lol last year it was $8.00 for a 5 oz tube
There is a huge and I mean, Huge building going up on Elliot and right around the 202 in Mesa. This tilt up building is taking up almost a half square mile in several structures. Rumor has it that it will be for some battery making plant. I certainly hope we as humans have found a better electrical storage system. I still do not think Lithium is the answer. We need Iron Man's blue energy source....
Well, as major car makers have announced electric fleets coming in just a couple of years, you are going to see big battery plants popping up ahead of time. Think of millions of batteries. Then plants coming to recycle old ones, then wheel motor rebuilders, etc,etc. Should be interesting during the transition.
This one?
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/southwest-valley/2021/07/29/arizona-play-critical-role-national-race-lithium-ion-battery-production-first-u-s-owned-plant-locate/5406431001/
Could those new buildings be the Facebook data center going up?
With the spectacular growth in that area of AZ, won't be affordable to live there in a couple more years. Building and traffic boom with influx of workers, etc. should start things going crazy.
Quote from: chessie4905 on December 01, 2021, 05:04:45 AM
Could those new buildings be the Facebook data center going up?
With the spectacular growth in that area of AZ, won't be affordable to live there in a couple more years. Building and traffic boom with influx of workers, etc. should start things going crazy.
It is already that way John ,Intel,Apple and others are building every where on the 202 and 101,housing as increased 28% in less than a years. I am not looking foward to living there again but I lost on that deal :-X
Thank God we have all those workers coming across the border to fill all those jobs.lol
It will change the states name soon to Arifornia, lol :^
New battery rumors are a dime a dozen!!! It will be interesting to actually see what happens in the next two years; though I think most of the rumors are four to five years out.
Though I think most of us will want to recycle EV batteries as house batteries.
Found out today it is Nissan testing the solid state batteries for their EV's
Being a dinosaur at heart we're gonna continue to swim in WLA for a fraction of the cost & as some would say a fraction of the advantages. Just us...
Quote from: dtcerrato on December 02, 2021, 07:09:18 PM
Being a dinosaur at heart we're gonna continue to swim in WLA for a fraction of the cost & as some would say a fraction of the advantages. Just us...
I bought 2 lifepo4 they are good batteries but I don't think they are worth the price for RV's JMO
An idea I've been mulling around is the use of lithium for starts, either direct connected to lithium house pack or standalone start pack. The more research I do the more feasible and reasonable it seems. Key point - look at these tiny battery jump packs. If those little things can start a car, then a bigger one can easily start a bus engine. Once I get the specs worked out, I publish the research.
Better make sure that you have the start batts heated if you ever plan to run your bus in cold weather.
Quote from: windtrader on December 02, 2021, 09:01:07 PM
An idea I've been mulling around is the use of lithium for starts, either direct connected to lithium house pack or standalone start pack. The more research I do the more feasible and reasonable it seems. Key point - look at these tiny battery jump packs. If those little things can start a car, then a bigger one can easily start a bus engine. Once I get the specs worked out, I publish the research.
I tried the lithium on my tractor a 105 amps with spin the starter with no load but kicks out when trying to start the engine on my tractor .Good luck Don it's going to take some work to spin a starter that take 600 to 900 amps to start a Detroit on a good day and to get the magic 60 rpms,you may can do it with MT39 reduction starter but the 42 or 50 is bear for amps,the GM people have no choice of starters
currently, its the thieves hacksaw game off the catalytic converters for cash. I see batteries stolen in future.
Don has the MT 39 :^
The lithium house bank can easily put out 1500 amps for enough time to crank it over. The pack is 480aH (1C) so 3C for short bursts is a walk in the park. I have done it before using thin battery jump cables between the lithium pack to the LA start batteries. It did kick over but there was some heat in the jumpers. Heavy gauge jumpers would work better but the real fix would be to use regular battery starter wire.
Agree the battery temperature is a consideration but mostly when charging. Discharging is fine at much lower temperatures.