Hello all,
I've been wanting to get back to you all with an update, but we have been very busy on our shake out run with our "new to us" 1996 D3.
Well, I'm stuck at a fuel stop and can't get into gear. It seems the fast idle is stuck on.
Any ideas on how to get this resolved?
Thanks a million.
Seb
Have you tried to play with the switch that controls the fast idle. Disconnect the wires to it. Turn off cruise control as some engines use it to control eng ram for fast idle. Do you carry any diagnostic equipment? Codes?
Quote from: Bill Gerrie on November 26, 2021, 03:54:29 PM
Have you tried to play with the switch that controls the fast idle. Disconnect the wires to it. Turn off cruise control as some engines use it to control eng ram for fast idle. Do you carry any diagnostic equipment? Codes?
Hi Bill, I did wiggle the wires on the fast idle switch. His is a new to me bus, so I chose to open only one can if worms at a time so have not touched the cruise control.
I don't have any diagnostic equipment.
Any other ideas?
Seb
Here is everything happening.
Startup at about 1100 rpm, no matter what the fast idle switch is on.
Gas pedal is dead
If I depress the brake it seems that the park breaker won't disengage. That's what it seems like to me.
When I push the D button, D shows in left screen but won't appear in the right screen. Idle goes down when I push D and goes back up when I push N.
Does this give any clues.
Can the computer be reset if it is confused?
Thanks
Seb
Just try to turn the cruise OFF. Do the brake lights come on? If the stop light switch is bad might be a reason it doesn't shut off. Diagnostic equipment is the only way to see what is wrong or any codes. Do you have a diagnostic switch on the dash. It should flash the CEL & SEL two flashes and then five more. That is 25 which means all good. If it flashes any other numbers it is a code which needs to be recorded.
The DL3 has 2 switches to control the fast idle,but your problem is the parking brake is not releasing or not getting the signal, it makes no difference if the switches are on or off if the DD-3 brakes release the fast idle will disengage and the baby will shift.In the panel under the drivers window there are 3 fuses toward the front check those 3 fuses I forget which one is for the fast idle they have little round black caps and are hard to see sometimes.If all else fails in the rear panel drivers side there is a fast idle relay you can remove and it is well marked once you remove the cover
good luck
Facebook fixed it.
Wheelchair door had been opened earlier in the trip.
Cycle the door, it went away.
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Quote from: buswarrior on November 26, 2021, 07:17:25 PM
Facebook fixed it.
Wheelchair door had been opened earlier in the trip.
Good old wheel chair ramp he left that part out here
Cycle the door, it went away.
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Glad he was able to get mobile again.
Quote from: Bill Gerrie on November 27, 2021, 06:21:56 AM
Glad he was able to get mobile again.
F/B has some good techs for the MCI's that worked for MCI
Quote from: luvrbus on November 27, 2021, 06:28:02 AM
F/B has some good techs for the MCI's that worked for MCI
Hey Clifford,
I know you (and a few others here) do FB groups. There are so many, which do you feel have good folks and good information? The main big ones have too much "noise" and hard to sift out the good info.
Frankly, for consistantly good information, and MODERATED, stick with BCM and BNO.
Facebook is so full of boldly stated ignorance, you can easily ruin your bus.
Natural selection is definitely in play, and it is painful seeing some folks so woefully inadequate in skills, knowledge and experience, egged on by the mob, and they buy a bus, and spend until they are destitute, which is very quick for many.
Or the same inadequate ones are offering advice to others...
I understand why the engineers drifted away from these Boards years ago... when you know what works and what doesn't, and the mob want to argue... it gets old fast.
I use the same handle on FB, with a space for first and last name: buswar rior
Find me, and that gives you a selection of bus groups.
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
I seen you BW on the other side chiming in now and then. I feel like you do and don't pay much attention but there are folks there that know what's going on - you, RJ, Clifford, etc.
I'm pretty exclusive to BCM and BGM for busnut stuff and once in awhile drop in on the FB stuff but scan pretty quickly. I will say they are tops in posting what is for sale as a lot more eyes and ears see what is on the market.
You need to wade through the BS on F/B just like here it doesn't take long to find out who has all the beans in the cans but there is always a wise @$# then they fade in hurry after1 comment.To me F/B has less BS than You Tube and you don't need to watch for 30 mintues to figure it out
Thats why there is the slider at the bottom of the videos, so you can move it to what you want to see or know about. I have got a lot of good info off of youtube on all kinds of subjects. Sure just like here you have to weed out the junk and the know-it-alls.
I get some good info there BNO,BGM and BCM. They all seem to have there place. :^ IMHO
Quote from: Dave5Cs on November 27, 2021, 06:45:50 PM
Thats why there is the slider at the bottom of the videos, so you can move it to what you want to see or know about. I have got a lot of good info off of youtube on all kinds of subjects. Sure just like here you have to weed out the junk and the know-it-alls.
I get some good info there BNO,BGM and BCM. They all seem to have there place. :^ IMHO
I got some info off Utube 1 time on how to change the light bulb in the GE mircowave ,I could not find that bulb and there was nothing in the book about changing it,one of the few times I watched a Utube,with me I don't like Google or any thing they are involved with like a cell phone
When you are bashing you head against the wall in a high stress situation like inconveniencing other people; any source of help is a god send!!!
Recently spend a couple of hours unable to start my bus at a Costco station and was about ready to call a tow truck.
Managed to suck enough energy out of house batteries to recharge one of my two twelve volt batteries for a 24v system; that plus the jump start cart from the tire shop got me back on the road.
If it works give it credit as it feeds our tribal knowledge and maybe the next guy doesn't have to fess up to an awh $#!%....
PS. was in the process of reconfiguring things and needed to go on a trip without testing...
Good points. There are nuggets in all the swamps. Just need to get skills to find them with the least wading through them. Youtube is a great resource if you find those nuggets.
Not sure if Clifford was talking about a can of bean before after being eaten. I'm guessing he's talking about eating fresh beans and not smelling what's left over.
People come here for help respect my no You Tube video some will sneak one though from time to time.You go into a resturant and a table of 10 or more people will be texting or watching videos it's not for me.I don't do many photos either and send,when I was selling the Trek people would ask for as many 25 photos who has time for that all they got from me was 4 max
Quote from: buswarrior on November 27, 2021, 03:57:44 PM
I use the same handle on FB, with a space for first and last name: buswar rior
Find me, and that gives you a selection of bus groups.
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
That's a great idea, I wish I had thought of it. I got on Facebook with an alias because Clifford recommended it (not the alias, that was my idea because Facebook is so rabid about sharing you and recommending "friends"). Yes, there are a few people with good knowledge, but there are a lot of people with inane useless comments and harmful information. I really wonder if the Facebook staffers add in comments to postings such as "cool bus", "great picture", etc. They definitely insert ads in and suggestions for groups that you did not join. Facebook deserves whatever misfortune comes their way. Changing their name will not help them.
Eagle are big on F/B,the Eagles International had a F/B page linked to their web page it maybe back up now,Dale took it down when he got remove from the EI.The deal with F/B now sucks they have a automatic moderator for some pages you post and need to get approval or they remove it lol I pissed someone off on the GM 4106 page who I don't know but they remove anything I post so I don't go there anymore.Lot of bus guys use their wives account lol with F/B just don't give a lot of personal info,F/B has been telling me for 2 years if I don't update my profile with a photo they are going to remove me I just tell them go ahead. I did do 7 days in F/B jail for a comment about a AR-15
Only 7 days in FB jail? Matt would call you a newbie! :)
Quote from: Ed Hackenbruch on November 28, 2021, 11:31:40 AM
Only 7 days in FB jail? Matt would call you a newbie! :)
Matt cannot stay out of jail on F/B I think he likes there.F/B is so liberal all it takes you make a comment someone doesen't like then they report you off you go
Thats why we don't do Fakebook because it always one way or the other gets political.
Clifford as far as getting away from google? That really can't be done no matter what you use, google is involved pretty much everywhere. :)
Quote from: buswarrior on November 27, 2021, 03:57:44 PM
Frankly, for consistantly good information, and MODERATED, stick with BCM and BNO.
Facebook is so full of boldly stated ignorance, you can easily ruin your bus.
Natural selection is definitely in play, and it is painful seeing some folks so woefully inadequate in skills, knowledge and experience, egged on by the mob, and they buy a bus, and spend until they are destitute, which is very quick for many.
Or the same inadequate ones are offering advice to others...
I understand why the engineers drifted away from these Boards years ago... when you know what works and what doesn't, and the mob want to argue... it gets old fast.
I use the same handle on FB, with a space for first and last name: buswar rior
Find me, and that gives you a selection of bus groups.
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
I appreciate that and don't take all advice as stated
Seb