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Title: Injectors
Post by: treeplanter on November 12, 2021, 11:29:36 AM
I would like to replace the injectors in my 71 8v71, they are presently Reliabilt N71C5, asking for info on a better replacement for increased power.
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: luvrbus on November 12, 2021, 06:57:27 PM
That is a crown injector they are a good injectors problem you have is the engine A or Std timed if A timed you could go to N70's for more fuel Std timing you could go with the 7G65 or 7G70's but they don't work worth a crap on A timed 8v71,if you take one out and give me the number on the injector I can tell you if they are low.meduim or high calibration.Me I would keep those the old DD 2 strokes when they have a few miles are like old people they don't like changes in their life   
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: treeplanter on November 12, 2021, 11:19:20 PM
Thanks for the reply, if I do have to remove them I will contact you, how do I find out the timing of the engine?
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: luvrbus on November 13, 2021, 07:54:47 AM
Quote from: treeplanter on November 12, 2021, 11:19:20 PM
Thanks for the reply, if I do have to remove them I will contact you, how do I find out the timing of the engine?

They make a timing fixture that measures DDC of the piston in refernce to the camshaft lift or you remove the bell housing and check the timing marks your injector can be used with both ' 
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: treeplanter on November 13, 2021, 08:13:51 AM
Ok, if I can free up the stuck injectors I'll take your advice on keeping them or replace with the same if I can't get the stuck ones to free up.
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: treeplanter on November 13, 2021, 08:22:59 AM
I presume you mean TDC.
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: luvrbus on November 13, 2021, 09:11:47 AM
Quote from: treeplanter on November 13, 2021, 08:13:51 AM
Ok, if I can free up the stuck injectors I'll take your advice on keeping them or replace with the same if I can't get the stuck ones to free up.

Pull the injectors and send those to (Don) Quality Fuel Injection in Oakdale CA (209)863-8810 tell him to set those on high calibration and tell where you want the best performance at what rpm.Don is old school he can do almost anything you want with the old injectors and he doesn't break the bank it's like a hobby to him now if, you go that route tell him I said build you a good set
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: treeplanter on November 13, 2021, 09:40:08 AM
That sounds like a plan, I sure appreciate you guys who know these engines, I'll have to hire someone local to teach me how to reinstall and calibrate them. Thank you again.
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: luvrbus on November 13, 2021, 10:03:00 AM
Quote from: treeplanter on November 13, 2021, 09:40:08 AM
That sounds like a plan, I sure appreciate you guys who know these engines, I'll have to hire someone local to teach me how to reinstall and calibrate them. Thank you again.

I did mean TDC, you are timing the injector it has nothing to do with the calibration, like a 1.500 gauge is more advanced timing than 1.460 gauge timing does not change the amount of fuel delivered it only changes the beginning of the injection cycle,it is not a big deal anyone can do it,the rack and governor setting can be tricky
   
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: treeplanter on November 13, 2021, 10:27:56 AM
I have been educating myself on you tube videos to tune the 8V71,  also given the name of an local 81 yr. Old local who works on two strokes, I won't go into the governor area without more knowledge. 🙏
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: luvrbus on November 13, 2021, 11:26:26 AM
Quote from: treeplanter on November 13, 2021, 10:27:56 AM
I have been educating myself on you tube videos to tune the 8V71,  also given the name of an local 81 yr. Old local who works on two strokes, I won't go into the governor area without more knowledge. 🙏

Watch some of the utube crap it will get into trouble
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: chessie4905 on November 13, 2021, 03:16:14 PM
a little off topic but saw the fuel crossover tubes for $7 something for the old style and $63 something for the new style. Is that right? WOW
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: luvrbus on November 13, 2021, 04:18:31 PM
Quote from: chessie4905 on November 13, 2021, 03:16:14 PM
a little off topic but saw the fuel crossover tubes for $7 something for the old style and $63 something for the new style. Is that right? WOW

Yes it is then a $1.00 ea for the o-rings $32.00 for o-rings
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: chessie4905 on November 14, 2021, 09:01:13 AM
thats crazy. I'll  stay with new old style. Billions of miles and they worked fine. Proper torquing and not reusing should be ok.
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: luvrbus on November 14, 2021, 12:50:50 PM
Quote from: chessie4905 on November 14, 2021, 09:01:13 AM
thats crazy. I'll  stay with new old style. Billions of miles and they worked fine. Proper torquing and not reusing should be ok.

Lol you buy the fuel stands and fitting for the injectors to use those lines, it get way up there in a hurry 
Title: Re: Injectors
Post by: Dave5Cs on November 14, 2021, 01:27:20 PM
Tim
did you ever get that bolt out of the bellhousing. When we were going to buy that bus from the guy in Citrus Heights, California he told us there was a bolt that came out from the flywheel and was in the bottom of it.