Does anyone know where I can purchase New Rubber (type) "Bump Stops" for Eagle Torque Elastic Suspension. The ones I have are not rubber, but something more durable, and a RED color. Please let me know. Thanks.[/size]
Hi;
check with Lucas @ U S Coach (856) 794-3104 He may have some on the shelf
Good guy to work with. If he does not have what you need, he probably knows who
might have what you need. Good luck
Merle :)
Goodson Bus Sales now for Eagle parts 828-428-4102,you can bet the farm those were off the shelf with Eagle and I think they were Dorman or Timbren check Amazon too
Red should be polyurethane.
Ditto on Lucas. I called two Prevost places that said since my bus is old that they would have to get back to me. Two weeks later I called Luke. He had them in the mail in 4 days.
You don't really need bump stops on a Eagle I may be wrong but I don't remember seeing bump stops on my Eagle
Quote from: luvrbus on October 28, 2021, 05:37:18 AM
You don't really need bump stops on a Eagle I may be wrong but I don't remember seeing bump stops on my Eagle
Well, if you stop launching the Eagle at speed and ripping the bump stops when it lands, then you'd probably still have them! ;). I know them Whoop-dee-doo's are fun, but sheesh!
When I was Eagle shopping, I hadn't noticed them on the examples I was crawling under. One of them could have used them since the Torsilastic springs were about had it...
There are eight of them used on Model 01 thru Model 15, at least. Same part number for all years, 01-0200-014. They are hard to spot with road dirt on them, not very prominent.
Quote from: BusNit on October 28, 2021, 08:26:50 AM
Well, if you stop launching the Eagle at speed and ripping the bump stops when it lands, then you'd probably still have them! ;). I know them Whoop-dee-doo's are fun, but sheesh!
When I was Eagle shopping, I hadn't noticed them on the examples I was crawling under. One of them could have used them since the Torsilastic springs were about had it...
I owned my Eagle 20 years never had that problem it was always adjusted by the book
that's because they don't give up the ghost till 25 years.lol
I would want the stops so when torsilastics fail, you don't have metal against metal till repaired.
Quote from: chessie4905 on October 28, 2021, 03:00:56 PM
that's because they don't give up the ghost till 25 years.lol
I would want the stops so when torsilastics fail, you don't have metal against metal till repaired.
They would need to fall off to do that torsilastics very seldom fail all at once,it takes time but people speed the process up with their 1/2 @$# adjustments ,about the only way one fails all at once is the weld breaks on the keeper and pulls out of the tube best bus ever built in it's day
Quote from: chessie4905 on October 28, 2021, 03:00:56 PM
that's because they don't give up the ghost till 25 years.lol
I would want the stops so when torsilastics fail, you don't have metal against metal till repaired.
Jeez chessie stop hating on eagles the likely hood of the torsilastics failing all at once is the same as every tire blowing out at once on your bus. What cliff said :o
Quote from: luvrbus on October 28, 2021, 03:57:24 PM
They would need to fall off to do that torsilastics very seldom fail all at once,it takes time but people speed the process up with their 1/2 @$# adjustments ,about the only way one fails all at once is the weld breaks on the keeper and pulls out of the tube best bus ever built in it's day
:^ :^
sorry, improper wording.when they fail to support the load due to age and or wear and allow the coach settle on bump stops. They will protect from metal to metal contact and incredible harsh ride till get fixed. I would imagine incredibly rare or even possible to have one just up and fail.
Eagle suspension is designed to last 2 million miles but you have to adjust properly and don't let it get low.My Eagle had a HWH hydraulic leveling system when parked I took the weight off and never had to adjust it but a 1/2 inch every 10 years and never adjusted (index) the bogies it was always on the money.If you keep the adjustment rods nice and clean that 1-7/16 nut is hard to turn if you let it rust and do not grease the pins it is a bitch to adjust
we are starting to see the older Eagles come up for sale that probably never had suspension touched and need torsilastics rebuilt. People snap these up at a bargain. then don't want to spend any money to maintain it. Anyway. a lot of the conversions from 70's and 80's showing up as previous owners "age out" Most likely a thought in back of mind of us older members as how much longer we bill be capable of driving a conversion of any kind.
Quote from: chessie4905 on October 29, 2021, 08:01:59 AM
we are starting to see the older Eagles come up for sale that probably never had suspension touched and need torsilastics rebuilt. People snap these up at a bargain. then don't want to spend any money to maintain it. Anyway. a lot of the conversions from 70's and 80's showing up as previous owners "age out" Most likely a thought in back of mind of us older members as how much longer we bill be capable of driving a conversion of any kind.
The price of diesel is playing into that too most of us don't want to deal with the 2007-2008 prices again you will see a lot of the 5mpg buses for sale you see more and more for sale each day on F/B because they predict 6 bucks a gal by spring lol CA is there already those guys don't wait
I chuckle the new buyers of used Prevost conversions. Many are clueless of the costs of maintaining one, fuel costs, insurance costs, etc. I'll bet many will be quietly listed for sale in another year and prices will start dropping. I'd love to have one, but not squandering my retirement savings to have one. Are campers, conversions,and rv's ready for another boom-bust cycle? Fuel costs killed last boom.
With most motorized RV prices during the Pandimic inflated through the roof, think it's gonna be a bloodbath coming down. Sold my 1991 XL to a couple out of Northern Cali (cheap or what I thought was fair) and they flew out and bought it. Drove it home 2000 miles and happy as Larks. I went to looking at later year models of upper end RV's and Man. Gonna wait until Folks get scared. ;D
Quote from: muldoonman on October 29, 2021, 12:45:18 PM
With most motorized RV prices during the Pandimic inflated through the roof, think it's gonna be a bloodbath coming down. Sold my 1991 XL to a couple out of Northern Cali (cheap or what I thought was fair) and they flew out and bought it. Drove it home 2000 miles and happy as Larks. I went to looking at later year models of upper end RV's and Man. Gonna wait until Folks get scared. ;D
I have this friend that has been looking for the rare bath and half Country Coach Magna 630 a 2008 lol he found one and couldn't believe the price they are bringing big bucks. I thought about selling my single bath model I have had some real good offers but not into shopping for a replacement
Quote from: luvrbus on October 29, 2021, 06:15:41 AM
Eagle suspension is designed to last 2 million miles but you have to adjust properly and don't let it get low.My Eagle had a HWH hydraulic leveling system when parked I took the weight off and never had to adjust it but a 1/2 inch every 10 years and never adjusted (index) the bogies it was always on the money.If you keep the adjustment rods nice and clean that 1-7/16 nut is hard to turn if you let it rust and do not grease the pins it is a bitch to adjust
Not looking forward to adjusting my eagle for the first time in who knows how many years, it's sitting at a good height just leans a bit towards the drivers side
Quote from: 6805eagleguy on October 29, 2021, 05:42:09 PM
Not looking forward to adjusting my eagle for the first time in who knows how many years, it's sitting at a good height just leans a bit towards the drivers side
Kroil and a wire brush are your best friend for about a month,good luck when 1 leans to 1 side hello bogie reindex and they can be real PITA
It seems quite common for the rear Torsilastic tube on the driver side to fail first. I suspect the extra weight on that side might have something to do with it.
The engine is offset to that side,the bogies usually go first then the rear goes,it is waste of time to raise a Eagle on 1 corner without doing the bogie first and that is a job no one likes
or just buy a conversion with airbags.😉
Quote from: chessie4905 on October 30, 2021, 08:30:58 AM
or just buy a conversion with airbags.😉
Not all people like the jell-o ride
as opposed to bobbing.😆
Eagles the best bus for people like me who like to fabricate and stuff huge engines in the back
Quote from: 6805eagleguy on October 30, 2021, 02:09:33 PM
Eagles the best bus for people like me who like to fabricate and stuff huge engines in the back
Your hands are tied to a engine laying on it side setting cross ways and turning the wrong direction :^.I miss my Eagle (sometimes)Ian on the BNO said it right nothing has the curb appeal as a well maintained good looking Eagle he told me that many years ago,they were good buses and rust is a problem but I seen Prevost built in 80's rust just as bad.They were built by a bus line to run XXXXXXXXX numbers of miles by a bus line and Continental got their money out of one
Quote from: luvrbus on October 30, 2021, 12:05:49 PM
Not all people like the jell-o ride
Why did the entertainers like the eagle? Was it for the ride quality? Easier to sleep in?
Quote from: usbusin on October 30, 2021, 03:23:45 PM
Why did the entertainers like the eagle? Was it for the ride quality? Easier to sleep in?
yep and they didn't fall out of the bunks when you turned a corner
GM, no drop box no BELTS.
Still the best looking bus on the road and hasn't been built in over 20 years. I might be a little jaded.
Wayne
Wayne, very, very nice Eagle!!!
:^ :^
nice!
I love Eagles and that one is amazing!
Thank you for the kind words. That project was a lot of fun. If I was 25 years younger I would I would do it again but it would cost me a wife. :)
Whoever has the best financial terms, gets the entertainer business.
GM and MCI wanted the bus paid for.
Eagle, and Prevost after them, will work with the builders for the timing of payment for the shell, and work with them on specific optioning.
GM and MCI basically said, take this empty revenue coach, pay us now, or leave it, we've got seated coaches to build...
Money dictates everything, ride is meaningless at that level...
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Quote from: buswarrior on October 31, 2021, 03:14:47 PM
Whoever has the best financial terms, gets the entertainer business.
GM and MCI wanted the bus paid for.
Eagle, and Prevost after them, will work with the builders for the timing of payment for the shell, and work with them on specific optioning.
GM and MCI basically said, take this empty revenue coach, pay us now, or leave it, we've got seated coaches to build...
Money dictates everything, ride is meaningless at that level...
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Prevost would cut that deal but Eagle wanted theirs before the shell left Brownsville, that is the reason you don't see many Eagle RV shell they weren't going to wait till the unit was sold for their money
Here are a couple of pictures of the bump stops. The ones on the 05 are ones I made gluing rubber to the mounts worked for over 20 years. The ones on the 15 I bought from Jefferson a few years ago
Wayne
I assume the airbags are the ones for leveling only?
The air bag you see is for lifting the tag axle. My 15 has a air tag axle.
Wayne