I'm re-doing my interior and going from front to back. Something I was thinking about as I was working on the vista windows tonight, is my shower. It is in "need" as well. I thought I would start the investigating process, and acquisitions, before I got there.
Now, this is a 4108 so the outside wall is radiased at the top and not a square 90*. I believe that will prove to be a problem.
I'm not against tileing it but, that would probably be my last option.
So, if you would be so kind, I'd like to see how you guys "created" your showers. I'm kind of doubting a "prefab" will fit. (I'd have to measure.) And of course, ANY helpful suggestions are appreciated!!
Thanks!!!!
Chaz
My 4905 has the shower floor about a foot below the coach floor into one of the baggage compartments.
I put a fiberglass one in my 5C which also curves in. I cut to match. It is 32" square shower and works well.
I'd put a pan in then get some pliable material to put on the walls that easily follow the contour and call it done.
My little Prevost has curved walls. It has an insert with 2 small glass walls and a bit of a narrow door at a 45 degree angle. I like the fiberglass insert, but due to curved wall, it is short in height. A 2 inch step over to get in, The bracket that holds the shower head was close to my face. I switched shower head to a wand with 5 foot metallic flexible hose from Home Depot. Not ideal but it works if careful not to point wand over the glass wall. I am 6'2" and I wish it was a bit bigger, but Rita yells if I take more than a 4 minute shower anyway. (She was too many years in her dad's 4106 with 4 kids.)
I would think tile to be heavy and harder to keep clean.
Best of luck.
I know a Scenic busnut that has a wheel barrel for a pan!
Thin sheet FRP will bend - once & done forever. Simple shower curtain.
Don't use marlite or malemine (trade names) - gloss decorative finish on hardboard - it won't last...
Take it from an extremely experienced bottom feeder... ;)
I used a 28 X 28 shower pan with FRP wall board for the sides. Bend nicely up the ceiling.
The previous owner of our 4104 installed a 32" by 32" Mustee shower pan and then used FRP for the sides. The center panel follows the roof line and ends plumb with the shower pan threshold. An exterior RV porch light was also mounted on the center wall FRP that forms the ceiling near the shower door. The shower head is mounted high near the shower door hinge and directed toward the opposite corner.
Excellent guys, looks like FRP is the leader in the discussion. so far. I'm guessing there is a good corner attachment system out there so as to not have leaks?
Thanks again guys!!
Chaz
Made ours being I used to do a lot of tile work as a contractor. I installed PVC floor pan liner Home depot. Across and up the walls 18 inches. over 1/2 marine ply and then fully covered with red guard and then c1/4" concrete tile backer then thinset and tile. Mud bed floor pan.
Grout with lots of latex (not water)gives it flex and seal with grout sealer. since 2010 never had a problem. Cleaning is easy . We just use a squeegee to wipe down when done showering. Put a floor drain with P trap under floor and water diverter if we can dump shower water on ground any place.
Thanks Dave.
My neighbor does tile so that was why it was still an option. I know many people do it, I just don't know much about it.
Thank you for the helpful tips and tricks!!
Chaz
Hey, have any of you tried this??
It looks interesting and it says it's for showers as well.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/DumaWall-DumaWall-Carrara-11-18-in-x-21-88-ft-Smooth-Carrara-Marble-Wall-Panel/1000547679
I am a big fan of Geocel Proflex for sealing and water proofing just about anything. I was thinking maybe a bead all the way around each tile BUT, I still have the "curved wall into ceiling" issue. :(
You guys have me on the right path at least. I was looking at FRP and saw this.
Thanks!!!!
Chaz
They sell wall paper for showers that last our friends have it and have used it for 15 years and it still looks new comes in all different patterns , they have the marble pattern and the stuff is thick too not your average wall paper
I have a side aisle so my shower is basically in the center of the bus. I used a neoangle shower with FRP on the walls. The FRP walls have silicone caulk around the edges to help deal with water. There are plenty of high use shower facilities built with FRP. It is certainly a more industrial look so the wife or girlfriend might not approve.
There is trim that works well with the FRP panels, IS & OS corners & edge trim & it also is flexible to shape contours & radiuses.
With FRP be sure to buy the right glue for what you are covering.I had it installed in the restaurants over concrete and the installer used the wrong glue and it all fell off the walls in a week and we had to redo it again
How about just a garden hose and a towel..>>>Dan
Quote from: Dave5Cs on October 13, 2021, 06:47:22 AM
Made ours being I used to do a lot of tile work as a contractor. I installed PVC floor pan liner Home depot. Across and up the walls 18 inches. over 1/2 marine ply and then fully covered with red guard and then c1/4" concrete tile backer then thinset and tile. Mud bed floor pan.
Grout with lots of latex (not water)gives it flex and seal with grout sealer. since 2010 never had a problem. Cleaning is easy . We just use a squeegee to wipe down when done showering. Put a floor drain with P trap under floor and water diverter if we can dump shower water on ground any place.
I definitely plan to use tile as well. You can curve your marine plywood up the wall, or use a couple of layers (for thickness) of the 1/4" hardibacker (the 1/2" stuff might not curve with the wall), red guard, liner at the base, and cover with tile using the latex grout mix (as Dave says). I used the latex grout mix in lieu of water in my bathroom at home, and have not had to deal with any grout issues at all in 9 years now. I used to have a '68 New Look GMC. I used the FRP on the walls (worked well) and used a 30x30 (if I recall correctly) janitor's mop sink for a base, then put a step in it (like Dave's) so that the upper portion was larger than the base. When you think about it, your feet only need so much room, so the area surrounding your upper body was quite a bit larger inside.
-No kidding......"wall paper". I'd like to see it but not sure I would do it. Interesting tho. I'll look it up.
-The G.F. is a bit of a princess but, the "throne" is more of a concern for her. :)
-Good to know about the trim.
-A hose has workd in the past but not "IN" the bus. :)
-Interesting base idea. I will see if I can find one that fits my space but, if not, I work in metal and made a bronze base for my shower in my house. It worked out cool but sure if I want to do all that again in my bus.
Thanks Luvrbus. I would do it to the letter as per instructions. I do not want leaks.
Quote from: Chaz on October 13, 2021, 07:45:21 AM
Hey, have any of you tried this??
It looks interesting and it says it's for showers as well.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/DumaWall-DumaWall-Carrara-11-18-in-x-21-88-ft-Smooth-Carrara-Marble-Wall-Panel/1000547679
I am a big fan of Geocel Proflex for sealing and water proofing just about anything. I was thinking maybe a bead all the way around each tile BUT, I still have the "curved wall into ceiling" issue. :(
You guys have me on the right path at least. I was looking at FRP and saw this.
Thanks!!!!
Chaz
I did the poor man's version of it: FRP sides and back glued on to the plywood and ceiling with Roberts floor adhesive, then Armstrong self-stick vinyl floor tiles glued on the FRP with Weldwood contact adhesive. It looks really good, can be easily wiped down after each shower, the tiles bend to fit the ceiling, and is cheap. The same tiles are also stuck onto the stainless shower pan. The shower threshold is a piece of 1.5" x 6" 6061-T6 aluminum. Now I just have to make the frameless bi-fold glass door...
John
Years ago on this and the BNO board there was a company in CA that was building and selling showers for bus conversions they came in 1 piece top and all,prices were not bad I installed one in the Eagle I think I paid around 400 bucks with shipping and the glass door.The desert scene on the door my wife wanted cost me almost as much as the shower lol never did like the coyote and desert scene on the bottom of the door
Excellent idea using the FRP as a backing, Iceni John. I can figure out what tile from there, if/when I want. I like it.
Luvr, any idea if they are still in business or some way to track them down? (I'll take your advice and forgo the mural. :) lol)
I'm thinking I'll have a stainless pan bent and tig the corners, then make a teak mat to stand on and add a seat area. I find it's nice to be able to sit down in the shower. Still undecided about the walls. A shower curtain for over the window to be sure, and leave the emergency escape bar intact so that just leaves front and rear. I'd like the front wall to be removable to access the plumbing so I'll consider stainless there too but that just seems cold and industrial so I'm looking for alternatives. Maybe tile with a stainless panel to cover the works. FRP, tile, or plastic sheet for the seat and rear wall I suppose, sort of leaning towards tile but probably the larger ones to cut down the number of seams. It'll be quite awhile before I get to that.
Jim
My shower install, from home depot
How about a bit country style? Get a cut-in-half wine barrel for $40 then put a shower rod and curtain. You got a soaking tub and a shower for under $75!
here's some pics of mine. the plywood box supporting floor is 7 inches below baggage compartment ceiling. Shower is lined with some kind of ceramic looking material.
the color does make it hard to make out.
picture of bay ceiling: