We are staying at a nice campground here, BUT, right under where planes take off, plus helicopters, and military jets from their base. Thankful for noisy rooftop airconditioner to drown out most of the noise. TV reception goes wacky when they fly over.
Anyway, the homelessness is worse than I expected. Tents in town on many streets, on freeway ramp grass, under many bridges and along several roads here. Also, scores of old motorhomes sitting along back industrial roads, with lots of tents, debris, shopping carts loaded with clothes, belongings, debris strewn everywhere.Dont have a clue who supplied those old motorhomes for homeless to live in. Also one RTS.
Really sad what Portland has turned into. Worse than Sanfransisco. I wanted to post a drive by video, but too large to add.
Quote from: chessie4905 on August 19, 2021, 07:19:33 PM
We are staying at a nice campground here, BUT, right under where planes take off, plus helicopters, and military jets from their base. Thankful for noisy rooftop airconditioner to drown out most of the noise. TV reception goes wacky when they fly over.
Anyway, the homelessness is worse than I expected. Tents in town on many streets, on freeway ramp grass, under many bridges and along several roads here. Also, scores of old motorhomes sitting along back industrial roads, with lots of tents, debris, shopping carts loaded with clothes, belongings, debris strewn everywhere.
Really sad what Portland has turned into. Worse than Sanfransisco. I wanted to post a drive by video, but too large to add.
That's a sad picture you painted and 10-4 on the white noise roof rattler - we love it for getting rid of the outside... Safe travels.
So sad, the wife used to work in Portland and Washington area. Used to be a lot of little family run shops and places to eat etc. Ciity parks and the river were clean family places. Now you can't even get to a lot of them or they are closed down. :'(
Kudos to you bus nuts that are traveling! We're stuck in neutral for a spell as life has a way of getting in the way and we that aren't traveling appreciate the updates on what's happening out there.
There is an RV park next to the freeway at the Ridgefield exit on I-5 about 14 miles after you cross the river into Wa. We stay there when in the area as we have family nearby.
All the RV parks in Boise are booked solid and it is not from tourists all the people are from Boise they have sold their $100,000 home to people from CA for $500,000.00 and moved in to campers.It is crazy what is going on in Boise Id we sold 3 rentals we owned for years in 2 days people were bidding :) affordable housing in Boise Id is long gone lol and so are all the fruit orchards it is sad indeed
second rest area on I5 into Wa.WA. notice spray bottle hanging where window should be, and imitation ivy inside windshield on lattice on MCI.
Good maybe enough of them will move there to Idaho and we can go back to California if we want to, NOT :^
Portland has turned into a cesspool
Thing I can especially see in Ca. Is after the wildfires which are bigger than last year, that if they start getting monsoon rains, everything will get washed to the sea or lowlands, since little left to absorb the water.
Reminds me of the dust bowls in the 30's
Meanwhile, back home in Pa. they have had a great deal of rain all summer.
In our travels, we have had almost rain since Tenn/Arkansas, over two months.
Quote from: Dave5Cs on August 20, 2021, 12:35:36 PM
Good maybe enough of them will move there to Idaho and we can go back to California if we want to, NOT :^
They are buying homes here in Boise as fast as they are listed ,our rentals jumped over 10% in value in a year lol so did the property taxes
Quote from: luvrbus on August 20, 2021, 01:55:55 PM
They are buying homes here in Boise as fast as they are listed ,our rentals jumped over 10% in value in a year lol so did the property taxes
Same thing has happened here in Wisconsin with regard to real estate prices, and it has nothing to do with people moving here from out west. Seems like the real estate market has gone off the rails during the past year or so. Hope it's not setting up for another crash.
Quote from: richard5933 on August 21, 2021, 02:37:24 AM
Same thing has happened here in Wisconsin with regard to real estate prices, and it has nothing to do with people moving here from out west. Seems like the real estate market has gone off the rails during the past year or so. Hope it's not setting up for another crash.
The price of material,labor and land has pushed the prices up too,but in Boise it is people on the move,and the market will crash just like in 2007 this time I am ready :^
I believe the market will crash again. It's a bubble ready to pop. We were ready then in 2008 & we'll be ready again. We don't ride the wave we just live through them. Recovered everything plus more since 2008. No worry here just keep on keeping on...
Quote from: dtcerrato on August 21, 2021, 07:47:27 AM
I believe the market will crash again. It's a bubble ready to pop. We were ready then in 2008 & we'll be ready again. We don't ride the wave we just live through them. Recovered everything plus more since 2008. No worry here just keep on keeping on...
Your dollar is not worth anything now ,plus the inflation you never really gain anything plus you have a partner you lease the property from and you never own it, the taxing authorities own the property that is the part that pisses me off, they have not 1 penny invested but reap the benefits from your money and work,I know some that the taxes on their home are more than payments on the loan balance
Prices are still fair here in Missouri and we get rain a few times since we have been here. Its hard rain but short. Lots of rivers and lakes especially in the Ozarks. We don't own anything anymore except the Jeep and the Bus and probably won't again in our life time but also don't want to. We owned a lot of STUFF and realized it was keeping us from living a life we really wanted which was enjoying traveling meeting new people, and just seeing the country where ever we want to be.
We helped a lot of people in our lives and now we are helping us Ha. and enjoying every minute of it. :^
There is lots of doom and gloom and towns that will never be the same. Downright depressing if we think about it too hard, or see it in person like Chessie. Makes ya sick. Wife Rita is a busy Realtor here in the N Ga mountains. We keep cautioning friends that say they are done with the lake thing, about selling. They are getting way too much money for these little lake houses (some bigger) but we keep saying to friends "Know where you are going and check prices there before you sell here". It is insane seemingly everywhere.
For FUN, we have been taking the bus on 1 or 2 hour trips just to run it. Afraid Covid will pull the kids back out of school (they just closed the elementary here due to Covid) which will jam the campgrounds again. Tuesday, however, we plan a big adventure! Two hour drive to the nearest COSTCO! Most of our neighbors are 70-80 years old. We took a list from 5 of them. All afraid of the Covid resurgence. So were off to COSTCO to fill the belly bays with bails of paper towels, napkins, coolers full of meat, dog food, all sorts of supplies, probably 50 pounds of depends (they are old) and our twice a year supplies we get in bulk. Almost as fun as cruising into Yellowstone! Not really, but I get to run the bus....
Hang in there kids. Find something fun to do, maybe helping others, and run your bus!
We had our place here in Wisconsin listed for a silly crazy price thinking that if someone wrote us a silly crazy check we'd take it.
Then we looked around at where we could go after, and realized that it would require us writing a silly crazy check as well. Not ready to go full time in the bus, so we'd need another place.
Not talking about luxury houses or resort/destination locations either, just mundane bedroom communities in SE Wisconsin.
Real estate has gone silly crazy.
I kind of like Dave5Cs set up. Rita's accountant told her if she sells any more houses this year, 80% of it will have to go to Biden. Makes me want to hang it up, sell the house, fire up the bus and...... Almost forgot. Damn Covid. The west is on fire. A Hurricane is headed for Long Island. Locusts? Are the locusts coming???
Snap out of Ted. Things will be ok....
With the principal 40 year FL ponderosa, no overhead, no car payments, no mortgage payments living is good BUT living got a lot better in 2016 when we nailed the 1-1/2A lot in Tok AK - why? Because there is no real estate taxes, no incorporated township, no building, zoning, nor code enforcement. We actually thought we died & went to heaven. Paid cash & NO Overhead. Soon it will be 6 months a year up there!
Dan,
I'm saving your post and will dust it off after a couple of seasons of you folks doing the split living. Doing the round trip at least once a year likely means going by air. What airports are involved on the Alaska side?
One of the main considerations with us is keeping the homestead maintained while away and costs associated with the upkeep.
Quote from: windtrader on August 21, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
Dan,
I'm saving your post and will dust it off after a couple of seasons of you folks doing the split living. Doing the round trip at least once a year likely means going by air. What airports are involved on the Alaska side?
One of the main considerations with us is keeping the homestead maintained while away and costs associated with the upkeep.
Fairbanks 4 hrs to the North then a $75 shuttle into Tok.
Over the years I have flown into Northway many times, then on to my destination..>>>Dan
Quote from: Utahclaimjumper on August 22, 2021, 06:38:50 AM
Over the years I have flown into Northway many times, then on to my destination..>>>Dan
Northway is a stone's throw from Tok! About 45mi. or halfway between Tok & the Yukon border.
We were talking major NS route. Heck Tok's airport is larger than Northway's if puddle jumping is in the picture... Tok is strategic for interior AK in way of airlifting for fire, medical, etc. Also a hub for Hwy patrol, sheriff, fire, etc. As far as convenience Tok's better that our FL ponderosa for store runs...just a lot more expensive!
" Puddle jumping" is a way of life in AK,,I flew float planes out of Anchor town delivering building supplies to surrounding lakes to folks who were building cabins and such.. I also worked for a co. that recovered wrecked aircraft out of the outback and into Anchorage for repair,, those day's are gone.. Today an insurance company will just pay off and go back and raise premiums..>>>Dan
Tok is a cool place. Used to do my Dall Sheep hunting out of there. Alaska also has no income tax! Not sure how many months you have to be there to claim residency. You get no income tax, and, the Alaska Dividend check once a year. Good for you!
We have friends that are selling out in Ketchikan and moving to AZ, Tom and Doreen Caffery because of Tom's health, it is hard to believe Ketchikan with 8000 people is the 5th largest city in Alaska
Quote from: Tedsoldbus on August 22, 2021, 08:30:10 AM
Tok is a cool place. Used to do my Dall Sheep hunting out of there. Alaska also has no income tax! Not sure how many months you have to be there to claim residency. You get no income tax, and, the Alaska Dividend check once a year. Good for you!
I don't think you can get the oil dividend check if you were not a resident from the beginning now,those checks don't amount to much now Tom told me
When we lived there (15 years) , it was based on the price of a barrel of oil. Some years it was $300, and a few years, me thinks Jimmy Carter gas "crisis", it was close to a thousand. Not a reason to move there. You'd spend it on cost of heating your house in about two months, but it was fun while it lasted.
Need a happy thought? I fueled my bus yesterday. Smiled as I pulled away, right past that DEF pump..... These days, you have to smile at the little things....
121 gals of fuel @4.05 didn't make me smile :^
you know, definitely is intensely disliked, but it is nice not to smell diesel exhaust. But in recent mode, it smells disgusting. I can even notice it going down the road when it happens in the truck.
Regen mode
John, I was just out there visiting my son, dip, and grandson in Vancouver(salmon Creek) Washington about 1-1/2 weeks ago. I was also surprised to see that big camp right on the riverbank near the airport.
Hopefully you weren't there when it hit 112 degrees a couple of weeks ago!
I am hoping to make it out there with my bus in about 2 years— but it is harder to make long trips by myself while still working full time.
Back here in PA it seems like we are living in a rainforest!
Yeah, we were in 112° a couple of times, but many 106° days and 1 1/2 months of temps over 100 out here. In Missoula Mt. today with temp in mid 70's. Mostly same in Wa. , and Or. near ocean. Still little to no rain for 2 1/2 months
We bought our house in Nampa, Idaho in September and it has gone up by 35%! There are many grape, apple and other fruit trees outside the city limits. But the house building is unbelievable. Avimor just north of Boise on 55 is alone OK'd to build a total of 6,000 houses!
We're enlarging our RV garage from 38ft long by 13ft high to 48ft long by 16ft high and we started the process in November. They will be pouring the floor extension Friday. Then building the wall extension, then reinstalling the roof. Good Luck, TomC
There is a guy on youtube that make a video a week about how Californians need to move back to their own state because they don't want them in Idaho.
They have made their taxes go up and complain about the elk and animals on their land. LOL you would think they would be happy that their prices also went up and they could make a lot of money. This guy is a real Estate agent too, LOL
These aholes move somewhere else and immediately start trying to change everything to satisfy their personal interests. That's why those west coast states are screwed up. Their standards ended up screwing up those states, so instead of fixing the problems, just move to a new area and start the same crap all over. At this rate, flush Idaho down the hopper too.
LOL
Sad to hear about the crash of many peoples life style...Thanks for sharing. I had no Ideal it was that bad. We are not to crazy here in the country. In the city still lots of anti vax people and they are filling up the hospitals. A few in are vaxed but most are transplant patients etc. I respect everyone choice to choose! Take care everyone....Bob
Quote from: robertglines1 on August 26, 2021, 05:46:34 PM
Sad to hear about the crash of many peoples life style...Thanks for sharing. I had no Ideal it was that bad. We are not to crazy here in the country. In the city still lots of anti vax people and they are filling up the hospitals. A few in are vaxed but most are transplant patients etc. I respect everyone choice to choose! Take care everyone....Bob
I too respect everyone choice to choose but it got real tough when I & our younger (32 yo) son got covid the same time. He's a strong young man, marine now fire fighter EMT first responder. I more or less breezed through the covid, it wasn't fun but just like a bad flu - our son coughed so hard he damn near threw his spine out then contracted pneumonia which he is under medication now for. I'm fully vaxed he is not. It hurt us bad to see what he's going through but that is his choice. We'll (wifey & I) be in line for a booster when it's offered just like the flu vaccines we get every year. Times are a changing and hope normalcy will return somewhat but at the very worst - hope it (normalcy) won't dissapear completely...carry on.
Quote from: chessie4905 on August 26, 2021, 10:02:22 AM
These aholes move somewhere else and immediately start trying to change everything to satisfy their personal interests. That's why those west coast states are screwed up. Their standards ended up screwing up those states, so instead of fixing the problems, just move to a new area and start the same crap all over. At this rate, flush Idaho down the hopper too.
The Idaho home market will hit bottom before long,this happens all the time in Idaho because there are hardy any manufacturing jobs in Idaho. Hewlett/Packard is pretty much gone from Boise.
Micron is still here and Amazon built a center that is supposed to employ 2000 but locals don't see that happening.
The job force in Idaho depends on construction and wood products and Boise Cascade has shipped all the saw mills to Brazil,
LOL locals do not like Californians and people from Washington State.Sad to see Boise the way it is now when we lived here Boise had 110,000 population now Meridian alone has that many people,there wasn't even a shopping mall in Boise till late in the 80's
We spent the day at Givens Hot Spring it is still has space but subdivisions are closing in on it too