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Title: Death Valley
Post by: chessie4905 on July 23, 2021, 06:35:37 PM
Took a drive through there today. Hit 121 degrees. There was a fuel statio. there. Sure glad didnt need any.
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: Tedsoldbus on July 24, 2021, 06:28:52 PM
Yikes Chessie. "How to cook a Prevost". Do you have TPMS?  Curious how much the tire temp/pressure varies at 120. And does rolling down the highway cool them??
Get out of there before your paint cracks.
Safe Travels
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: chessie4905 on July 24, 2021, 10:33:46 PM
Have tpms on truck and tt. Only drove truck. Tire pressure increased 10 lbs. over base setting. Normal day goes up 6.
Interesting observation. There was a new Jeep covered in black and white came to hide the final details from the camera guys. He was stopped at intersection where temps hit 121 degrees. He was looking at a computer screen just to right of steering wheel. Didn't  move as we lost sight of him. Also saw two people in all white outfits sort of jogging a piece and then a car that appeared to be a bicycle chase car. Nothing else, no prairie dogs, no lizards, no nutin.
We commented it would be a good location to install 100 square miles of solar panels. Then, Death valley would be good for something
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: luvrbus on July 25, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
There were a lot of mines in Death Valley that go from gold and silver down to clay I like to visit the old Borax mine on cool days lol you have to like the name Furnace Creek   
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: uncle ned on July 25, 2021, 08:49:00 AM

Clifford  the borax mine reminds us of our last good president. Ronald staring on 20 mule team days.
The last few years of his term i do not think he even knew who he was.  did a great job though.

LOL

uncle ned
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: luvrbus on July 25, 2021, 08:55:55 AM
I was standing out side the bus and my feet started to get warm so I shot the ground temperature and  it was 201 degrees,the old tale of people freezing to death at night time in death valley is just a tale the temps don't drop that much at night 
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: chessie4905 on July 25, 2021, 01:53:33 PM
there was a sign for 20 mule team with an arrow pointing to a gravel road. we decided to pass.
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: someguy on July 25, 2021, 02:52:49 PM
Quote from: chessie4905 on July 24, 2021, 10:33:46 PM
We commented it would be a good location to install 100 square miles of solar panels.

Solar panels lose efficiency like crazy as temps go up.  Sunlight = good.  Heat = bad.
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on July 25, 2021, 03:14:58 PM
Lowest temp ever in Death Valley is 15*.......
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: usbusin on July 25, 2021, 04:20:43 PM
Death Valley is absolutely beautiful October through March. Zabrinski Point at sunrise is breathtaking. One of our favorite areas, but you must appreciate the beauty of the desert.
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: lvmci on July 26, 2021, 08:14:04 AM
Any body coming to LV from the south or east on US93 or 95, will see thousands of acres of solar voltaic fields, this new part surrounds Boulder City to the south, all within the extended city limits...
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: luvrbus on July 26, 2021, 04:19:08 PM
Quote from: lvmci7070 on July 26, 2021, 08:14:04 AM
Any body coming to LV from the south or east on US93 or 95, will see thousands of acres of solar voltaic fields, this new part surrounds Boulder City to the south, all within the extended city limits...

Seems like the farm grows 10 acres a week it is about to cover the dry lake now and on both sides of the highway.I notice the last batch remotely follows the sun   
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: windtrader on July 26, 2021, 07:23:05 PM
If it is on CA side, then no surprise due to the state directives and goals to be carbon neutral in not too many years
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: luvrbus on July 26, 2021, 07:46:08 PM
Quote from: windtrader on July 26, 2021, 07:23:05 PM
If it is on CA side, then no surprise due to the state directives and goals to be carbon neutral in not too many years

It is just outside Vegas ,they were going to build a 9000 acre farm @ Battle Born (Overton) Nev but the people put a stop to it because it was Chinese owned Harry Reid's son Rory was involved and the rancher Bundy case blew it out of the water 
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: chessie4905 on July 26, 2021, 10:09:22 PM
We just passed by Palm Springs exit on I-10. Couple hundred wind turbines. Only about 10 were barely turning.
We passed the couple thousand solar panels outside Las Vegas. Yes the newest ones are designed to rotate that we saw near the road. Those were parallel to road to follow sun. There were many that were perpindicular, that wouldnt benefit by rotation. Probably were older ones.
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: Dave5Cs on July 27, 2021, 09:47:20 AM
Ah old Cliven and his son  Ammon is running for the Governor of Idaho where he is not even aloud in the Capital and he set up a compound in Southern Oregon where they believe it is ok for them to take over the land but no one else can do that accord to them, LOL :^
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: luvrbus on July 27, 2021, 12:34:20 PM
The BLM and ranchers plus the sheep herders in Idaho and Or has always been a mess,most of the permits favor the ranchers,we have a friend in Jordon Valley Or that hasn't paid a penny in 10 years  for grazing because of a drought clause in his permit.Now  new permits are good for 10 years the older permits some were good for life carried down to next generation  those are the ones the BLM are after lol there is nothing in Southern Or and Southwest Id anyways let the cows ,horses and sheep have it or Ammon, Idaho has a lot of open range grazing no one controls it or pays fees   
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: chessie4905 on July 27, 2021, 05:14:13 PM
we sure travelled across thousands of acres of land even a prairie dog could eake out a living. Thousands of miles of fence, very few cattle.
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: chessie4905 on July 27, 2021, 05:15:54 PM
we sure travelled across thousands of acres of land even a prairie dog could eake out a living. Thousands of miles of fence, very few cattle. Then, hundreds of acres of irrigated, what looks to be hay fields. And water is in short supply out here.
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: luvrbus on July 27, 2021, 06:23:08 PM
Quote from: chessie4905 on July 27, 2021, 05:15:54 PM
we sure travelled across thousands of acres of land even a prairie dog could eake out a living. Thousands of miles of fence, very few cattle. Then, hundreds of acres of irrigated, what looks to be hay fields. And water is in short supply out here.

What pisses people off out west and Alaska the government own 60 % of land and in 11 states out here they own 45% or more plus they have water and mineral rights,here water rights are worth more than the land,Idaho has plenty of water   
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: lvmci on July 27, 2021, 07:40:51 PM
85% of Nevada is BLM and other federal agencies...
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: luvrbus on July 27, 2021, 08:18:46 PM
What they call Rolex Ranchers in Idaho like the Ted Turners and others control lots of BLM land. JR Simplot of Idaho was one he could play the BLM and Forest Service like a fiddle they never questioned what he did on BLM land, or he would exchange a worthless piece of property for one that had value and make the BLM think they got the better deal   
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: Dave5Cs on July 28, 2021, 05:44:54 AM
Sounds like Howard Hughes.
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: luvrbus on July 28, 2021, 06:09:37 AM
Quote from: Dave5Cs on July 28, 2021, 05:44:54 AM
Sounds like Howard Hughes.

Yep money = power the government doesn't look at the land being public and that is not political just a fact when you pay 5 bucks to gain access to some spots here in the valley,don't lose your senior pass to the parks that jewel cost 80 bucks now if you lose it   
Title: Re: Death Valley
Post by: dtcerrato on July 28, 2021, 11:37:48 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on July 28, 2021, 06:09:37 AM


Yep money = power the government doesn't look at the land being public and that is not political just a fact when you pay 5 bucks to gain access to some spots here in the valley,don't lose your senior pass to the parks that jewel cost 80 bucks now if you lose it
Best darn plastic card in my wallet. It's the only plastic card that don't spend but saves - gobs while on the road. Love using it on federal land...