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Title: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: Rick 74 MC-8 on June 13, 2021, 11:26:24 AM
Does anybody know where I can get a 12 volt jake solenoid part number on the top is 003784. It's an 8 v 71
I was changing the o-rings and the wire pulled out of the coil pretty brittle probably needed to be replaced. I'll check with Luke on Monday

Thanks in advance Rick
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: luvrbus on June 13, 2021, 11:32:34 AM
Quote from: Rick 74 MC-8 on June 13, 2021, 11:26:24 AM
Does anybody know where I can get a 12 volt jake solenoid part number on the top is 003784. It's an 8 v 71
I was changing the o-rings and the wire pulled out of the coil pretty brittle probably needed to be replaced. I'll check with Luke on Monday

Thanks in advance Rick

You can buy those from PacBrake they were 50 bucks each
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: richard5933 on June 13, 2021, 11:54:04 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on June 13, 2021, 11:32:34 AM


Also check with C&J Bus in MN
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: luvrbus on June 13, 2021, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: richard5933 on June 13, 2021, 11:54:04 AM
Also check with C&J Bus in MN

That is a  choice I get all my JakeBrake parts though from www.pacbrake.com they are less than 1/2 the price of Detroit and give good service too,that solenoid is used on other engines beside a Detroit fwiw   
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: Rick 74 MC-8 on June 13, 2021, 12:12:10 PM
Thank you Clifford and Richard

Does pack brakes sell direct that link I can look things up but I don't see anywhere to purchase.

Rick
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: luvrbus on June 13, 2021, 12:15:23 PM
Quote from: Rick 74 MC-8 on June 13, 2021, 12:12:10 PM
Thank you Clifford and Richard

Does pack brakes sell direct that link I can look things up but I don't see anywhere to purchase.

Rick

They will sale direct just call and it gets shipped out
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: Rick 74 MC-8 on June 13, 2021, 12:19:59 PM
Thank you Clifford first thing in the morning they get a call.  I'll probably just replace all four.  :)

Rick
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: luvrbus on June 13, 2021, 12:28:57 PM
Ask the price lol parts have gone through the roof,DD was asking $225.00 for that solenoid 2 weeks ago I found one in shop so I didn't order 1 from PacBrake   
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: Rick 74 MC-8 on June 14, 2021, 08:00:31 AM
Pac brake wants 110 bucks a piece for the 12 volt solenoid I found 24 volt on eBay for 48 bucks. Can I just change the supply to 24volt and be good I'm thinking I can

Rick
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: luvrbus on June 14, 2021, 08:30:58 AM
Quote from: Rick 74 MC-8 on June 14, 2021, 08:00:31 AM
Pac brake wants 110 bucks a piece for the 12 volt solenoid I found 24 volt on eBay for 48 bucks. Can I just change the supply to 24volt and be good I'm thinking I can.

You can always add a condenser on each master  from the old points and condenser systems from long ago that acts the same as capacitor that was done on Jakes for years for 12 to 24 volts   

Rick

The Jakes should  be 24 v on a MCI anyways but you need to change all 4 at one time Jake solenoids were 12/24 v not voltage sensitive lol then they found another way to gouge you
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: Rick 74 MC-8 on June 14, 2021, 08:40:56 AM
That's but I figured looks like 53 and 71 are the same I'll change all four for 48 bucks and just change the lead to grab the 24 volt side

Thank you so much Clifford
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: Van on June 14, 2021, 08:43:51 AM
IIRC the rebuild kit was around $210 back in 2019.
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: Rick 74 MC-8 on June 14, 2021, 09:10:11 AM
I was in the process of replacing all the o-rings the wires are so brittle they were breaking so I figured I would just change the solenoids

Rick
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: lovetofix on June 14, 2021, 02:29:14 PM
I called PacBrake today for a Jacobs rebuild kit P89201 for the 8v71/92. The answer I got was, "they are on indefinite back order because of how the world is these days."  ::)
The guy said there are a couple components they are missing and don't know when they can get them.
I did find a NOS "TEC Brake" kit, anyone have experience with those?
Title: Re: 12 volt jake solenoids
Post by: luvrbus on June 14, 2021, 07:46:57 PM
Quote from: lovetofix on June 14, 2021, 02:29:14 PM
I called PacBrake today for a Jacobs rebuild kit P89201 for the 8v71/92. The answer I got was, "they are on indefinite back order because of how the world is these days."  ::)
The guy said there are a couple components they are missing and don't know when they can get them.
I did find a NOS "TEC Brake" kit, anyone have experience with those?

TEC has been around for awhile some of their stuff is ok coming from Mexico some not so good but I never had problems with their rebuild kits the flow valves look as good as any  manufacture .I installed a set of their housing on a M-11 Cummins and they broke 1/2 into the next set is still going though 10 years later,that has to be old kit they haven't sold parts for 71/92 Jakes for years