Can you still get the cartridges for these old units? Think I have 2 spotted ( KENT MOORE J-38500-1 PRO-LINK 9000) and a (Pro Link 9000) have a DDEC11 in my bus. They also have a KENT MOORE J-37164-A DDEC SENSOR TESTER.
You can find the cartage used on Ebay but you are going need the interface cables and adapters too
Yes, check on eBay, they will show up from time to time. Just make sure they are compatible with the model you get. New old stock will also pop up occasionally. I got the II & III cartridges that way, Version 5.2, and the Allison ver 4.0., adapters and case. Don't forget to get the appropriate operators manuals.
Yeah got 2 , one with DDEC 1 and 11 cartridge and the other Allison ATEC 1 cartridges and some cables. Will have to see what's in the cases next week. Thanks Guys.
So, what would be required to update a, say an 8V-92 from DDEC 2 to 4? Besides the ecm and wiring.
After my first Pro-Link was stolen, I bought another scanner (for less than $100, complete with case, printer and all cables!) and a brand-new unused DDEC II/III cartridge for not much more, but the cartridge didn't work. Thinking it was the scanner itself, I bought another scanner for cheap, but that didn't work either. Damn. So I bought another cartridge, this time for DDEC I/II, and everything worked! Just be patient, and one will show up on eBay.
The cheapest way to buy Pro-Links for early DDECs is to buy one for late-1980s / early 1990s GM cars, throw away the GM cartridge, buy a DDEC cartridge, and it will still cost less than a complete DDEC Pro-Link! And why old GM cars? They use the same 12-pin diagnostic connector so you won't need to buy the $55 adapter cable, and any GM cars of that era are probably long gone by now so their scanners are now seen as almost worthless.
John
I have a Kent/Moore for a DDEC 1 the scanner fits inside the cartridge
Hang on to the ATEC scanner Mastercard won't buy those now,John the cartridge may not be bad when Motorola started manufacturing the DDEC ll about the middle of ,the run it takes the ll and lll cartridge,the DDEC l and early DDEC ll takes the l and ll cartridge.You have watch buying cartridges or you end up with a box full that doesn't work for your application,now you pay a yearly license fee to the jerks for use of their software
Which things would you buy for the '96 MCI?
Jim
Just buy the Pro/Link Plus with the cartridge for your DDEC version, no need for the Allison cartridge for the B500 you can use the shift pad for codes lol you can flash the codes on the DDEC too if you can count fast enough the Pro/Link does make it easier though.I have the printer too they are a waste of money IMO
After I get these next week, might have an extra or two to loan out to you folks.Think i ended up with 3. Will keep you posted.
Quote from: muldoonman on February 20, 2021, 07:54:59 AM
After I get these next week, might have an extra or two to loan out to you folks.Think i ended up with 3. Will keep you posted.
Watch that loaning if you want to keep your Pro/Links Glen btdt to many times
Quote from: luvrbus on February 20, 2021, 08:07:04 AM
What that loaning if you want to keep your Pro/Links Glen btdt to many times
Yeah, know you have been there many times Cliff. Some folks are trash and that's what they are. Well I'll sell um cheap. ;D
Wonder how much of what Cliff has loaned over the years ended up on Ebay instead of being returned.
Quote from: chessie4905 on February 20, 2021, 11:29:52 AM
Wonder how much of what Cliff has loaned over the years ended up on Ebay instead of being returned.
Or borrowed with out consent >:( >:(
Quote from: luvrbus on February 20, 2021, 07:25:17 AM
Just buy the Pro/Link Plus with the cartridge for your DDEC version. . .
Clifford -If I understand you correctly, I would just need a Pro/Link Plus with a DDEC II cartridge for my 1992 Prevost with the 8V92T?
What cartridge would I need for the ATEC Allison HT-754?
TIA,
RJ
Quote from: RJ on February 20, 2021, 07:04:26 PM
Clifford -
If I understand you correctly, I would just need a Pro/Link Plus with a DDEC II cartridge for my 1992 Prevost with the 8V92T?
What cartridge would I need for the ATEC Allison HT-754?
TIA,
RJ
Get the right cartridge for the DDEC ll as I mention the cartridge for the DDEC ll and lll will not read the early DDEC ll good luck with finding a cartridge for the ATEC 700 series they were just around for a short period (2 years ) if you find a cartridge it make work or may not they sell for $$$
So was '96 a DDEC IV or III?
I'm all about saving money so finding a GM prolink and the ddec module separately appeals to me, but I want to avoid buying the prolink twice.
Jim
Quote from: Jim Blackwood on February 21, 2021, 06:25:14 AM
So was '96 a DDEC IV or III?
I'm all about saving money so finding a GM prolink and the ddec module separately appeals to me, but I want to avoid buying the prolink twice.
Jim
The Pro/link MPSI won't work on your Protocol shop and buy a Pro/link Plus
The cartridges in the 3 I picked up are a Allison ATEC 1 cartridge a Allison and World Transmission Cartridge and (2) DDEC 1 and 11 from the pics. Will know more when I pick um up in Houston next week. Also got a KENT MOORE J-37164-A DDEC SENSOR TESTER. Don't know what the heck that is but looked intriguing. ;D.
Quote from: muldoonman on February 21, 2021, 08:37:33 AM
The cartridges in the 3 I picked up are a Allison ATEC 1 cartridge a Allison and World Transmission Cartridge and (2) DDEC 1 and 11 from the pics. Will know more when I pick um up in Houston next week. Also got a KENT MOORE J-37164-A DDEC SENSOR TESTER. Don't know what the heck that is but looked intriguing. ;D.
Glen if you decide to sell the Allison World cartridge I will buy it
Quote from: luvrbus on February 21, 2021, 09:01:45 AM
Glen if you decide to sell the Allison World cartridge I will buy it
If it's in the set of 3 Pro Links I bought from Houston Transit Authority last week, and from the pics online it is, Cliff just send me (PM) your address and it yours free. ;D Will find out tomorrow afternoon when I pick up.
Anothet thing I picked up Monday from Auction is a,,
Kent-Moore Tool
Kent-Moore J-37164-B DDEC Sensor Kit
fOR SERIES 60, TWO CYCLE 53, TWO CYCLE 71, TWO CYCLE 92, TWO CYCLE 149
Used to test DDEC sensors for 2 cycle as well as earlier S50 and S60 engines
haven't a clue how to use it but does have the manuals.
Is there any indication of which Series 60 engines would be included, like 11.1L or 12.7L? 1987 up to what?
Quote from: DoubleEagle on February 24, 2021, 07:34:21 PM
Is there any indication of which Series 60 engines would be included, like 11.1L or 12.7L? 1987 up to what?
Walter the scanner tells you what engine, the DDECs are all the same for the 60 or 2 strokes only different versions on both ,they even cover the CNG with spark plugs if have one
Clifford, I know this is an old posting, but what's the difference between a Pro link and a Pro link Plus?
JimH.