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Title: Tire Rating
Post by: Fred Mc on October 17, 2020, 10:22:05 PM
 I have a friend who lives in a 1990 Toyota 21 'motorhome and she needs 6 new tires.She tells me the size is 185-14  8 ply.
Is there a rating system for tires so I know what I'm looking for?
Id like to help her out because I think the tire people she is talking to are trying to take advantage of her. She was quoted $3000 Cnd.

Regards
Fred.
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: richard5933 on October 18, 2020, 03:06:40 AM
If you mean conversion between ply rating and the letter system, try this:

https://www.tirebuyer.com/education/tire-ply-rating

I tried looking up tires, but there is a missing number on the tire size.
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: chessie4905 on October 18, 2020, 04:30:55 AM
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hkook-VanTRa-LT-RA18-185R14-102-100R-D-Tire/401349831
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: hogi6123 on October 18, 2020, 06:52:05 AM
The shop I got my bus tires from didn't know how to help me.  I don't think they were trying to take advantage of me, just didn't know how to compare prices or something like that.  They gave me a price.  I had to ask "What would I pay for Toyo tires?"  They said "It will be xx ($1000 cheaper than the first number), and oh! we even have them in stock"

The shop I use for my non bus tires I feel really knows how to help.  They say "What's your size?  Do you have a brand preference? ... Does tire X sound good?  It's not quite the cheapest but it's made by a reputable company."  Prices are great and I have been content with all of their recommendations.

185r14 looks incomplete but is apparently a complete size:
https://tiresize.com/tiresizes/185R14.htm

You can do an internet search on specific tires but you may not find much.

You should call a few other shops, see if you can find one more knowledgeable and helpful.
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: richard5933 on October 18, 2020, 06:54:26 AM
I went to a few commercial tire shops before buying the new tires for my bus last year. The dealer I settled on (Pomps - New Berlin, WI) did like you were saying. They helped me compare the options, laid out the various prices, and took the time to explain why each was/wan't the best option for me based on how I used the bus.
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: hogi6123 on October 18, 2020, 07:08:30 AM
That reminds me of getting a recommendation of Pomp's from a RV dealership.

You could call some place local like a RV dealer that uses a lot of tires similar to your friend's and ask them where they get their tires from.
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: chessie4905 on October 18, 2020, 08:38:39 AM
https://www.tires-easy.com/185-14/hankook-tires/vantra-lt-ra18/tirecode/2001939

read specs and info.
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: luvrbus on October 18, 2020, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Fred Mc on October 17, 2020, 10:22:05 PM
I have a friend who lives in a 1990 Toyota 21 'motorhome and she needs 6 new tires.She tells me the size is 185-14  8 ply.
Is there a rating system for tires so I know what I'm looking for?
Id like to help her out because I think the tire people she is talking to are trying to take advantage of her. She was quoted $3000 Cnd.

Regards
Fred.
What is that in US dollars ? sounds high I paid $3200.00 out the door taxes,mounting and balanced for 6 Toyos 295/80/22.5/16 ply  for 6 new Michelins I can see a couple of grand I just paid almost 1500 bucks for 4 on the SUV 
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: chessie4905 on October 18, 2020, 10:25:05 AM
$2274.88
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: windtrader on October 19, 2020, 09:45:06 AM
Quote from: Fred Mc on October 17, 2020, 10:22:05 PM
I have a friend who lives in a 1990 Toyota 21 'motorhome and she needs 6 new tires.She tells me the size is 185-14  8 ply.
Is there a rating system for tires so I know what I'm looking for?
Id like to help her out because I think the tire people she is talking to are trying to take advantage of her. She was quoted $3000 Cnd.

Regards
Fred.
Given the vehicle is 30 years old, who knows if the current tire is the correct size. Research the vehicle's weight, front and rear. Find an OEM document showing the recommended tire size(s), maybe a sticker inside the glove box. Those two should determine the proper size and weight rating for that specific vehicle.
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: chessie4905 on October 19, 2020, 01:54:17 PM
http://toyotamotorhome.org/forums/index.php?/topic/7-tires-for-8990-dolphin/

looks like the correct tire. you can verify by checking the mfg. tire  spec on the placard location indicated. You may want to get it weighed to make sure they are still sufficient. Someone may have added a clawfoot cast iron bathtub...
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: RJ on October 20, 2020, 01:27:39 AM
Quote from: Fred Mc on October 17, 2020, 10:22:05 PM
I have a friend who lives in a 1990 Toyota 21 'motorhome and she needs 6 new tires.She tells me the size is 185-14  8 ply.
Is there a rating system for tires so I know what I'm looking for?
Id like to help her out because I think the tire people she is talking to are trying to take advantage of her. She was quoted $3000 Cnd.

Fred -

That size on your friend's Toyota is a LT or "Light Truck" tire, aka nowadays known as a "185R14D." The D indicates the load range.

Tire Rack has a Yokohama Y356 in that size and load range for $125.24ea, or $751.44 for a set of six. ($990 Cdn)

They also have that same Yokohama in the next size up (LT195/75R14 D) for $130.60ea, or $783.60 for six. ($1033 Cdn)

Personally, I'd spend the extra bucks for the slightly larger tire and additional load carrying capacity.

That's just an example using one vendor.  But now that you know what you're looking for, you can go shopping more intelligently, eh?

HTH. . .  ;)
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: Fred Mc on October 20, 2020, 09:40:59 PM
Thanks RJ.
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: luvrbus on October 21, 2020, 12:56:49 PM
You need to watch the internet tire sales,I ordered some tires from Tire Rack 13" for Sonja's Triumph convertible  and got a good buy but the Dunlap tires were dated coded 5 years ago,it was a hassle to get newer tires from that outfit took me almost 3 months plus they wanted me to pay shipping to return the tires
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: chessie4905 on October 21, 2020, 03:11:12 PM
like beer and soda. have a sale to move older tires.
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: windtrader on October 21, 2020, 07:40:15 PM
Quote from: luvrbus on October 21, 2020, 12:56:49 PM
You need to watch the internet tire sales,I ordered some tires from Tire Rack 13" for Sonja's Triumph convertible  and got a good buy but the Dunlap tires were dated coded 5 years ago,it was a hassle to get newer tires from that outfit took me almost 3 months plus they wanted me to pay shipping to return the tires
LOL - wonder why 5 year old 13". lol, must be 20 years or more when that tire size was popular.
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: luvrbus on October 21, 2020, 08:10:53 PM
Quote from: windtrader on October 21, 2020, 07:40:15 PM
LOL - wonder why 5 year old 13". lol, must be 20 years or more when that tire size was popular.

!3 inch is still popular on trailers but they are not the same tire as for autos ,seems like I put tires on that rag top every 10 years lol she has had it for years now it is 44 years old with 62,124 miles total.I would like to see it gone that is not happening 
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on October 22, 2020, 10:06:43 AM
Which Triumph had 13" wheels?  Must be older than the 62 TR4 that i had for 23 years, it had 15" wheels.
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: Jim Blackwood on October 22, 2020, 10:19:37 AM
More like 50 years ago LOL! That'd be either a Spitfire or a GT6 right? And I'd guess the GT6 had 14". Hey, all it needs is a more modern engine... and a new wiring harness... and...

Jim
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on October 22, 2020, 10:22:59 AM
My TR4 had a 289 and C4 tranny out of a 67 Mustang....we called it the little red rocket. :) 
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: luvrbus on October 22, 2020, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: Ed Hackenbruch on October 22, 2020, 10:06:43 AM
Which Triumph had 13" wheels?  Must be older than the 62 TR4 that i had for 23 years, it had 15" wheels.


It's a spitfire 1500,her manual shows 13 inch for the wire wheels which it has and 14 inch for steel wheels hers has disk brakes on all 4 wheels try finding those pads at NAPA 
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on October 22, 2020, 01:28:45 PM
Probably be able to get them from Moss Motors. :)
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: Jim Blackwood on October 23, 2020, 08:50:05 AM
These days Ed there's a club, try BritishV8.org if you haven't already, about anything you could imagine. We built an MGB-GT with a Buick 455 as a club project about a decade ago and have kept it on tour ever since. Very nice car. Mine is an MGB ragtop with a 340 Buick. There's a section with about 300 conversions called How it was done. We do electric power steering, efi conversions, widening, you name it.

Jim
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: luvrbus on October 23, 2020, 09:05:49 AM
Sonja probably has the only Spitfire that is not a rust bucket,I put a new master cylinder for the brakes and the out fit in KS charged a arm and leg for the thing,Bad thing about the Spitfire they never increased in value,she has the cover what ever you call the cover,rag top and the original hardtop for hers,only thing not original on hers is the paint lol the candy apple red paint cost more than the car is worth 
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: Jim Blackwood on October 23, 2020, 10:36:23 AM
Phil McConnell put a 'vette frame under his. Not the slickest fender flares in the world but he doesn't care. It's like a go-kart. He got to take it on the Dragon for the first time this year and was suitably impressed.

Jim
Title: Re: Tire Rating
Post by: Melbo on October 23, 2020, 02:23:15 PM
I have an 89 toyota one ton truck and it is the same as this camper.  It has six tires and I get my tires from the same place that does my bus tires.  They aren't cheap but they have to be the heavy load range for the weight.

HTH

Melbo