I put a motorhome door in as an entrance door years ago. The seal in the double pane glass has let go and there is enough moisture that I can't see through the window.
What type of place can fix this? It is a P.T.L window if that matter.
Probably a local glass company in a larger town. They use so much double pane glass in houses anymore, it's a common repair.
I live in a metro area of 3+ million so finding a regular glass shop is not an issue.
Can a regular glass shop take apart and fix an RV window?
I don't know why not. Take it over and ask.
Quote from: belfert on August 17, 2019, 12:14:50 PM
I live in a metro area of 3+ million so finding a regular glass shop is not an issue.
Can a regular glass shop take apart and fix an RV window?
If a regular glass person can not fix it, ask a local RV place where they send them as this is a common occurrence.
I took the window to an RV repair place and they said they don't repair double pane windows. They only replace double pane windows.
I definitely cannot get a custom replacement window in the next ten days for a Labor day trip. I don't know if I can even get it fixed in ten days if I can even find a place. There are places in the Southern US that specialize in this repair, but I can't ship it there and back along with get the repair done in ten days.
Rv dealers are mostly like car dealers anymore. They don't repair, they replace. Some glass companies should have the means to evacuate, recharge with argon glass and reseal. Or they should be able to cut rounded corners and assemble a new double pane window.
It appears one of the problems is going to be the fact it needs to be tempered glass.
Ask the local charter company where they get theirs done?
Fogged double pane glass is a common enough issue.
Someone is doing it...
Make sure they know this is your personal window, not one that a hired driver has to look thru... so they use a fresh greasy rag to clean the inside, not an old greasy rag...
Quality control on these jobs is not always high enough for the discerning busnut...
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
I bought a new commercial refrigerator that was damaged during shipping. The glass door was broken. I was able to order a custom made panel with tempered glass and argon filled online and shipped right to my door for way less than the replacement glass from the refrigerator manufacturer. Onedayglass.com was the site.....coincidently peninsula glass. Same place that makes replacement windows for mci's.
Thanks for the tip on onedayglass.com. The rest of the windows in my bus are Motion Windows, but the new motorhome door I used for an entry door already had a nice window in it. I was actually going to call Motion Windows tomorrow.
I really don't care if this window is single or double pane. I just need to be able to see through it so I can see traffic to my right. It looks like onedayglass.com might be my best option as I did an online quote and shipping included is $150. The big thing is I need to see if I can figure out how to get the glass out of the window without breaking it so I can get an accurate measurement. The window is made by PTL Engineering so I might call them also.
Another option (or backup) would be to have a remote camera and monitor on that side, or add another camera if you already have a rear camera.
The whole thing with using a camera just seems dangerous and probably illegal. Any driver is going to naturally look right first and then remember that they need to use the camera. There are probably laws regarding having windows to look through.
I talked to One Day Glass / Motion Windows about their replacement glass and they said the One Day Glass double pane is not for RVs and will fail from vibration. They recommended one of the companies that specializes in this repair for RVs, but they are all far away in the Southern USA and probably booked up anyhow.
Motion did tell me me how to get the window apart which is good.
I am thinking that maybe a piece of thick Plexiglas that is same thickness as glass pack will have to do for now.
Local bus repair place simply replaces bad glass instead of repair.
Hi Brian, MCIs use a different rubber gasket, thin one for double pane, thick for single pane, both fit in the same window frame, I took apart my double pane that cracked, changed the rubber, scraped and cleaned the glass, then it was a single paned window, lvmci...
Quote from: lvmci on August 19, 2019, 10:19:30 AM
Hi Brian, MCIs use a different rubber gasket, thin one for double pane, thick for single pane, both fit in the same window frame, I took apart my double pane that cracked, changed the rubber, scraped and cleaned the glass, then it was a single paned window, lvmci...
Great idea. Unfortunately, I do not know who made this RV window. The window has a PTL Engineering sticker on it, but I called them and they said the window was made for them. They make motorhome doors using windows sourced from others. They were not much help, but they said they would call back.
I was able to get the glass pack out of the window. It is 1/2" thick.
My two choices for replacing the glass are 1/2" acrylic or getting a new double pane glass pack from One Day Glass. One Day Glass did state the seal would go out before long due to vibration. I think 1/2" tempered would be too heavy (and not easy to get). Pricing on acrylic and the dual pane glass are both about $150.
I can't really go with thinner glass due to the opening in the frame and the rubber seals unless someone has a thought on that.
Can you just get a different gasket to hold a thinner window into the same opening? Should be able to find something universal to hold a piece of thinner glass in there.
If not, have you tried Steele Rubber? Maybe you can use something like this to reduce from the 1/2" opening to a 1/4"? They have many other similar varieties so you should be able to get what you need.
https://www.steelerubber.com/master-for-extrusion-30-0478-99
I had the same problem and replaced it with a new window that was 2 pane tempered . I made a template out of cardboard and gave it to my glass guy who sent it out . only problem was it was 1 " thick so I had to make my own trim for the inside out of aluminum angle . never had any problems again . cost was about $200
dave
My issue right now is time. I need the window fixed by next Wednesday. I would have a lot more options with more time. Most places are several weeks out for tempered double pane.
The window was fine last time I checked the bus a few weeks ago.
There doesn't appear to be an option for getting an double pane glass unit designed for an RV without replacing the whole window frame and everything.
Have you thought about breaking one of the glass panes, cleaning the remaining and heading out. Fix it permanently later.
just trying to get you on the road.
My MCI windows were 1/2" acrylic. They're tinted, though. I have some of them here if you want to cut one to fit.
Otherwise, remove the assembly and caulk around the seam with polyurethane. Then drill two holes between the glass. Hook a vac pump up to one hole and a bottle of argon to the other. Vacuum it to get the moisture out and then fill it with argon and seal the holes.
Quote from: dickegler on August 20, 2019, 04:46:28 PM
Have you thought about breaking one of the glass panes, cleaning the remaining and heading out. Fix it permanently later.
just trying to get you on the road.
I thought about it. I ended up ordering a 1/2" piece of tempered glass from One Day Glass and paid for overnight shipping. It takes a few extra days for 1/2" glass.
A local company could also do tempered glass in three or four days, but it turns out it takes them a day or two to get the order in their system. I would also have to take a half day off work to go get the glass.
The good news is I got my glass from One Day Glass today and it fits perfectly. The window is back together, but too late to get it back in the bus tonight.
Less than one week from discovering a bad window to having it fixed is good in my book. Thanks for the suggestion of onedayglass.com.