Hello all: For years now I've had a commercial grade 1 Schlage 660R lock & deadbolt in my door which I originally installed (not a locksmith) Well it broke one day, welded end came off the tailpiece which I hear is common along with the brass cam follower stabilizer (? part name) breaking into small pieces. A normal repairman type (me) would expect that a parts breakdown along with part numbers from Schlage could be obtained but so far no luck. I would like to repair my original, but if that is no longer possible, I have to look at a new model that will fit my 3"+ door. My 660R was 1-1/4" cylinder so the hole in the siding already exists. Tell me please what type/model of lock you are using in your thick doors. This experience so far has frustrated me looking to repair or replace. PS any retired locksmith's please contact me. Thanks
Our door uses a standard Yale deadbolt which looks similar to yours.
The inner thumb knob was connected to the lock by welding on an extension to the shaft. Otherwise, it's a normal lock.
I had trouble with the lock, so I took it to a locksmith who rebuild it good as new.
Hi Gerry, I had the same lock re-keyed and rebuilt when I first purchased the coach 11 years ago. If you can find the right locksmithy he should be able to rebuild that unit to new. Good luck, Will
I welded an extension to the rod for my door lock. My locksmith was unable to source a bolt system for thick doors, although I think my MCI door is only 2" thick.
Locksmithing has much in common with blacksmithery. Don't be afraid to tinker.
Jim
Quote from: Gerry H on May 16, 2019, 08:11:50 AM
Hello all: For years now I've had a commercial grade 1 Schlage 660R lock & deadbolt in my door which I originally installed (not a locksmith) Well it broke one day, welded end came off the tailpiece which I hear is common along with the brass cam follower stabilizer (? part name) breaking into small pieces. A normal repairman type (me) would expect that a parts breakdown along with part numbers from Schlage could be obtained but so far no luck. I would like to repair my original, but if that is no longer possible, I have to look at a new model that will fit my 3"+ door. My 660R was 1-1/4" cylinder so the hole in the siding already exists. Tell me please what type/model of lock you are using in your thick doors. This experience so far has frustrated me looking to repair or replace. PS any retired locksmith's please contact me. Thanks
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I hope this helps you!.
Kind regards.
That is a store front deadbolt they should not be hard to find,strange it has Schlage lock most were Corbin locks on a Prevost door
10-4 Clifford Replaced mine plus the stock inside lock knob fit right in.
Quote from: luvrbus on May 16, 2019, 11:12:01 AM
That is a store front deadbolt they should not be hard to find,strange it has Schlage lock most were Corbin locks on a Prevost door
Thanks for the info. From what i can find, it look like a Corbin DL4113 is the one.
Most any locksmith shop can hook you up.
Check out Bus Grease Monkey's deadbolt install video. He added a little extension for his thick door.
Here's part 1:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UnfvkFXC4
LOL that install must be just to hold the door shut when traveling you don't install a lock with screws out for security where anyone can remove those
Quote from: luvrbus on May 19, 2019, 02:09:08 PM
LOL that install must be just to hold the door shut when traveling you don't install a lock with screws out for security where anyone can remove those
The mounting screws were installed from the inside, just like any other deadbolt. The two dots on the outside of the lock are not screws, they are the LED lights for the wireless function of the lock.
Quote from: richard5933 on May 19, 2019, 02:34:32 PM
The mounting screws were installed from the inside, just like any other deadbolt. The two dots on the outside of the lock are not screws, they are the LED lights for the wireless function of the lock.
LOL well spank my but it look liked screws to me,I have this thing anyways about using house locks on a bus and anyone with a pair of channels locks can turn that lock without the guard on it
Why not just use a hammer and break a window or cut a circle with a glass cutter, or.... ::)
Quote from: chessie4905 on May 19, 2019, 04:59:55 PM
Why not just use a hammer and break a window or cut a circle with a glass cutter, or.... ::)
Thief's don't like broken glass 8) that is their last resort .I had one of my building broken into last week with a window not far from the door 200 bucks if they broke the window no they destroyed a $1800.00 door and frame and went away with nothing
Is there a rotating ring on the Corbin ?
The Yale mortise lock on our bus is mounted in a similar way without the ring. However, it would be nearly impossible to turn the lock with a Channel Lock since the lock is screwed into the mortise and has a set screw driven in from the side.
The fact that Custom Coach installed a mortise lock make the door pretty darned secure. But, it also means that we can't easily replace it with one of the wireless locks like Scott used.
From the information I found online, it looks like the Schlage lock in the start of this thread mounts with the two screws as well, so hopefully there is a way to keep it secure.
The Corbin the face is so thin you cannot use channel locks on it,I guess you found out the Corbin is not a cheap lock.I like the Corbin
Quote from: luvrbus on May 19, 2019, 05:39:14 PM
The Corbin the face is so thin you cannot use channel locks on it,I guess you found out the Corbin is not a cheap lock.I like the Corbin
$ 185.09 at LockDepot. Not that expensive for good quality.
Seems this thread is taking on a life of it's own and getting out there. I may have miss-led some with the picture of the INSIDE of the door photo which is a temporary get by coble (to secure door) until the correct parts can be obtained. The first photo is the outside of my door. We don't have locksmith shops here anymore, everyone works out of a van and for $100 service call will tell you they don't have the part you need and don't have the time to find it for you go buy a new lock. I did security for 16 years for Minneapolis Board of Education and they only break in next to the signs saying "protected by electronic surveillance". This is not an electronic lock and there are no LED's. I state again - I AM NOT A LOCKSMITH Thanks for your help and added frustration. >:(Gerry H.
Quote from: MagnoliaBus on May 19, 2019, 06:01:46 PM
$ 185.09 at LockDepot. Not that expensive for good quality.
LOL most bus people will not pay that for a dead bolt the ones I replace people bring me a $20.00 dead bolt from H/D a piece of junk
Yeah, they won't spring for the expensive commercial duty ones.
Quote from: luvrbus on May 20, 2019, 06:56:59 AM
LOL most bus people will not pay that for a dead bolt the ones I replace people bring me a $20.00 dead bolt from H/D a piece of junk
Well, i think that quality is cheaper down the road...