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Title: R&M adjustors
Post by: olebusman on November 04, 2018, 11:01:15 AM
  Does anybody know what or whose headlight adjustors R&M  used on 4106 headlight panels?  Mine are all rusted also the springs. I can't find them anywhere.(//) olebusman
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: chessie4905 on November 04, 2018, 03:13:53 PM
Check with a body hardware catalog, maybe Napa or a friendly old body shop.

https://www.google.com/search?q=headlamp+adjusters&oq=headlamp+adjusters&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l9.8595j0j4&sourceid=silk&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=Ik5CeyviK8VhEM:
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: Iceni John on November 04, 2018, 03:24:19 PM
Some of my bus's adjusters were corroded (but not as badly as yours!) or stripped out, so I bought all new stainless bolts, springs and nuts from my local friendly hardware store, and rebuilt them so they can never again seize up or get corroded like before.   Not a difficult job, and now it's easy to accurately adjust the low- and high-beam headlights to Daniel Stern's recommendations.   I get VERY grumpy when other drivers' headlights dazzle me, so I take great care to adjust mine correctly.

John
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: chessie4905 on November 04, 2018, 03:26:22 PM
Here's a fastener company:

https://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Headlight-Adjusting-Screw-Assemblies-s/106.htm?Click=162675&gclid=CjwKCAjwsfreBRB9EiwAikSUHXI7E-447pXGLORUuvfL9yYPUYACMg13c_nfO8flnYezrH1hTxXaaRoCs0oQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: luvrbus on November 04, 2018, 03:32:07 PM
Richard at R&M used mostly Ford van stuff lol or what ever he had on hand at the time
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: olebusman on November 04, 2018, 04:01:04 PM
  Thanks guys  I've got some checking to do now.  olebusman
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: buswarrior on November 05, 2018, 06:23:43 AM
Geez, that ain't rust, you can still readily see the threads....

That stuff should still move with judicious use of your favorite weasel piss.

When you upgrade the parts, regardless of material of manufacture, get them lubed with a dab of anti-seize, once adjusted, it will be many years before you touch 'em again...

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: olebusman on November 05, 2018, 09:25:55 AM
   buswarrior, that picture is of a unbroken adjustor. Others are busted and I would like to replace all and be done one time. Yes in hind site I should have put anti seize on them and surely will this time. Still haven't found exact replacements if anyone else has any more ideas.  olebusman
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: chessie4905 on November 05, 2018, 09:28:22 AM
Trouble is that the stand the adjuster threads into is old brittle plastic. Corrosion in threads out of sight can seize it in place. Soon as you try to turn it, the plastic distenegrates. He may get lucky with plenty of penetrant. Better to spend the few bucks for new stands and screws. Thinking outside the box, you could carefully make square holes directly under screw heads and go with the common newer snap in adjusters.
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: stevet903 on November 06, 2018, 09:01:21 AM
Looks like an adjuster from a late 50's Impala...

https://www.goodmarkindustries.com/p-53937-10-piece-headlamp-adjuster-bracket-kit-hwb2121.aspx
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: chessie4905 on November 06, 2018, 09:13:37 AM
Posted above: https://www.google.com/search?q=headlamp+adjusters&oq=headlamp+adjusters&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l9.8595j0j4&sourceid=silk&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=Ik5CeyviK8VhEM:
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: olebusman on November 07, 2018, 07:47:57 AM
 I've looked at the early chevs adjustors. I think the mounting holes are closer together. the kits show a different spring, although I remember the springs as the mopar and gm with a screw in the center like mine. I think i'll have my friendly parts store order in a early gm/corvette adjustor  to check out. Thanks for the replies. Hope I can come up with something. chessie I would make holes for the more readily available adjustors but the fiberglass dip for the bucket is in the way.  I'm still trying  olebusman
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: buswarrior on November 07, 2018, 08:08:10 AM
try walking in to an independent auto parts place that's been around a long time?

Stuff will be on a shelf somewhere, and the guy behind the counter won't ask if you have AC...

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: olebusman on November 07, 2018, 08:53:18 AM
buswarrior   All there  is around here is kids with a computer   olebusman
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: richard5933 on November 07, 2018, 09:58:06 AM
Quote from: olebusman on November 07, 2018, 08:53:18 AM
buswarrior   All there  is around here is kids with a computer   olebusman

I can relate - I once went into a chain parts store for standard rectangular headlights to fit the quad setup on our 4106. They made these things for years, and there were two choices: hi beam or low beam.

The kid behind the counter insisted that he had to have make & model to look it up on the computer. He refused to go look on the shelf for the headlights. Unbelievable that he didn't know where they kept headlights.
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: Oonrahnjay on November 08, 2018, 06:14:45 AM
Quote from: richard5933 on November 07, 2018, 09:58:06 AM... The kid behind the counter insisted that he had to have make & model to look it up on the computer. He refused to go look on the shelf for the headlights. Unbelievable that he didn't know where they kept headlights. 

     Yeah, unbelievable but common.  The big NAPA down the street from my bus storage lot had a Hispanic guy working there - maybe mid-50s.  He didn't have enough English to carry on a real conversation but I'd bring in any part or describe what I needed, or maybe draw a sketch on the back of an envelope -- then he'd disappear into the huge warehouse in the back and come right back with exactly what I needed. 
     I haven't seen him there in a year or two.    :(  A kid with a computer was probably cheaper. 
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: luvrbus on November 08, 2018, 06:20:05 AM
Richard is going to stop by today I'll ask him what he used for you
Title: Re: R&M adjustors
Post by: olebusman on November 09, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
  Thanks luvrbus, maybe he'll remember  Hope so   Thanks again  ps those jake seals worked as new. olebusman