I see that the flattest route website is no more. What are some good alternatives to check out?
Dosen't Road Trip America have that feature ? I recall I used it sometimes with the 8v71 in my MCI 8 lol it would faint if you mention hill
Google Earth
In the upper left, select "Get Directions"
Enter your start/end points
Once the map populates in the main window, right-click the route and then click on "Show Elevation Profile"
Not quite as handy as flattestroute, but pretty good to double check a route for steep grades
? why is a guy with a 60 series looking for a flat route ???
What happened to FR?
happy coaching!
buswarrior
https://www.flattestroute.com
Well, the website URL is still valid and the web server serves up a web page but the service is no longer. Anyone with desire can start it up as he put the source code on GitHub but there is some cost with accessing Google services. Maybe an alternative but someone has to dig in.
There are other services that offer detail elevation trip profiles. Try CalTopo, some free, some pay services.
Quote from: luvrbus on September 02, 2018, 10:43:58 AM
? why is a guy with a 60 series looking for a flat route ???
The bus isn't the issue. My wife follows with the pickup pulling a very heavy trailer and I understand there are some pretty nasty hills in Canada, which we will be doing some traveling in next summer.
Could the bus handle pulling the trailer instead of the truck?
ribbet ribbet... where did the toad go? ;)
Remember, it's not always the ability to pull up the hill at full speed that's at issue. I pay far more attention to the downhill grades when I look at flattestroute.com since I don't yet have Jake brakes installed.
I've seen a few paid apps & web services aimed at truckers, but not seem to be as simple and straightforward.
LOL there are some nasty hills going to Canada from AZ .most of the newer pickups will hold their speed descending down hill without much braking if they have the tow package from the factory,the wonderful world of electronics :o
I may consider putting the trailer behind the bus I just don't like being that long, makes it harder for some fuel stops at over 65 feet. The trailer is really tongue heavy too, I do use a weight distribution hitch but I'm still kinda a chicken when it comes to all that weight on the back of the cradle.
Quote from: luvrbus on September 03, 2018, 07:11:44 AM
LOL there are some nasty hills going to Canada from AZ .most of the newer pickups will hold their speed descending down hill without much braking if they have the tow package from the factory,the wonderful world of electronics :o
It has factory tow package and does really well holding itself back on the downhill side. It will go up the mountain as fast as you want to go but if you push it it will start heating up on the really long hard pulls. We just slow it down a bit and take it easy. Anything over about a 6% grade I end up slowing down in the bus, otherwise I would end up miles ahead of the wife. When I still had the 11.1 we were about even in the hills. Now with the 12.7 @470 & 1550 I can run circles around her lol.
You will be fine with a hitch on the D just run a pull strap from the hitch to the frame under the engine.If my factory hitch hadn't walk off I would have gave it to you,lol I know where it went but he says he didn't take it or 1 of my snap/on kits for the older 2 strokes
I had a hitch put on at B&B a few years ago. We pulled the bumper and rear cross member and installed the hitch and reinstalled the bumper over it. It is a fairly heavy angle iron but it still has some twist to it with some tongue weight. Same setup he put on the 8's and 9's I believe.
Being a web developer / designer in my real job. Looks like the creator made the source available online.
BCM could very easily, or even myself make a clone of this site. BCM could make it a membership perk.
http://flatrvroute.com/ Here ya go. I'll need to put some ads on it or something to fund it. But we'll see what happens. It's free for me for low use for now .
If Gary would stay home instead or running around in his coach, he could afford to have it on this site.lol
In 38 years with our turtle, no Jake's, nor turbo. From coast to coast, Mexico border to the north slope, the only grades that we'd actually take off the toad! Was on the Ice field parkway in Alberta Canada. That was the closest we ever came to soiling our drawers... Otherwise the turtle has & continues to do us well. Yes & there is plenty times to smell the roses w/o having to stop! :-)
Mountain Directory West and Mountain Directory East.....good books to have.
Quote from: neoneddy on September 04, 2018, 10:50:11 AM
http://flatrvroute.com/ Here ya go. I'll need to put some ads on it or something to fund it. But we'll see what happens. It's free for me for low use for now .
That's great! Thanks for taking action on this.
Quote from: neoneddy on September 04, 2018, 10:50:11 AM
http://flatrvroute.com/ Here ya go.
Nice! Thank you for putting this up. I would definitely add ads or a link for donations.
Does Google Maps contain bridge height information? If so, can you add logic to avoid low bridges?
Quote from: neoneddy on September 04, 2018, 10:50:11 AM
http://flatrvroute.com/ Here ya go. I'll need to put some ads on it or something to fund it. But we'll see what happens. It's free for me for low use for now .
thanks :)
Thanks for hosting the site. Let's keep it secret to stay under the free Google paywall. If it's interfacing with Google, I'll take a look to see where elevation data is sourced from. Traditionally, elevation data has come from USGS DEM datasets. Somewhere I read that Google started sourcing elevation data from LIDAR or similar sources for elevation data. May be some difference between Google Earth and Google Maps and who knows how many other datasets Google has tucked away.
Quote from: windtrader on September 04, 2018, 04:45:15 PM
who knows how many other data sets Google has tucked away.
i read somewhere they are all public domain in that realm...
maybe Garmin...not Google uses US. Govt. data.
Looks like there is bridge height in open streetmaps, but it's user reported, which is better than nothing. An entirely new app would need to be written. Outside of the scope of something I want to tackle now :-)
Pulled down the repo and looking at the code. Curiosity got the best of me. :) First thing is there is no data source selector, so you get what you get. The other odd thing is the sample intervals. The chart on the left appears reasonable but the slope is not right. some of the grade calcs are clearly not correct. Always wanted to peek under the Google Maps API but this sort of pushed me off the ledge. LOL
Do check on your API key as the pricing scheme for Maps has changed over the past couple months. You get a recurring credit but once used up, it may start charging you. Another service I use had the same fate but the paywall is pretty low so it's still up for now.