Ive heard the "no chinese" when it comes to tires.
Any feedback on the Triangle brand?
Was quoted 315.00 for an 18 ply 12R22.5 all position tire...
Thanks
Here is a review on them.
https://www.classadrivers.com/forum/owner-operators-forums/30753-chinese-triangle-tires.html
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/triangle-brand-tires-155239.html
Also, keep in mind that you probably aren't going to accumulate the number of miles required to wear them out before they get too old to run, if concerned about wear out issues.
I'm a Michelin fan, but don't let that affect your decision. Double Coin is another Chinese tire that is frequently used.
One reference is 11 years old and the other 5 years old.
Just saying.
There are also reviews and other brands here. Don't know if reviews refer to any semi truck tires though.
https://simpletire.com/catalog?width=315&ratio=80&rim=22.5&zip=16865
News here: http://www.tirereview.com/triangle-tyre-setting-a-benchmark-in-china/
https://www.moderntiredealer.com/news/726796/triangle-will-build-a-580-million-tire-plant-in-north-carolina
$315. for a 12R tire seems like a really really really good price if it includes mounting-including off and back on the bus. Plus like Chessie mentioned, these things hold the bus up more than they carry it down the road. I'm on my second set of tires and both take offs still looked new treadwise, Sidewalls not so much. Now we cover when parked, what a difference that has made, I swear by covering tires from the sun and weather. Good luck whichever way you go,
Will
I would weigh your bus by axle. I'm betting you could change to a 11R-22.5 16ply-which would be cheaper and ALOT easier to obtain. Remember-tires are much more than big, round rubber things. Who knows how the tires are made inside, the rubber compound, tread design, belt reinforcement, etc. Michelin makes 50 different tires for trucks and buses. How many do Chinese tire manufacturers make-typically 3-one for steer, one for drive, one for trailer. Good Luck, TomC
Toyo's and yes they are made in China 11R-22.5 16ply very smooth riding and they are 4 years old with only 15,000 Miles on them with no problems. :)
Oke your bus weighs right at 30,000 lbs empty I not would go to a 1 inch narrower tire to save a few bucks and it will change the driving characteristics on a 40 ft bus with the tag axle BTDT on my MCI 8
The 45 footer club in particular, want to weigh the front axle when choosing tires.
There can be a lot more variation between front axle weights on 45 foot coaches than the hobby is used to in the shorter buses.
Empty, front axle is lighter than we're used to, if the heavy stuff was built biased too much to the front, they can be WAY overloaded.
If light, you'd really like a narrower tire up front to try and gain back some steering bite in the rain and snow.
I don't like deadheading a 45' seated coach in the slop.
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
They make them in other sizes also 12R22.5 Toyo's
My Bus is only 35 ft. and a little lighter. It was about the brand not the size, gesssss.
Quote from: Dave5Cs on August 22, 2018, 07:07:14 AM
They make them in other sizes also 12R22.5 Toyo's
My Bus is only 35 ft. and a little lighter. It was about the brand not the size, gesssss.
I ran Toyo's for years (12R22.5) it was the only tire that made my Eagle real happy and I loved the nice smooth quite ride with Toyos only thing I didn't like was mine were made in Japan and would stink on a long hot drive across the desert lol they would smell like a feed lot for about 30 minutes, I got accused of farting several times by the co-pilot
I didn't realize that Toyo's were made in China, I though they all came from Japan. They're as expensive here in Oregon as Michelins and considered of the same quality by most.
I'm not sure that it's the place of manufacturer which is important. In my experience, the important part is having someone here in the US responsible for quality control and adherence to standards. A US company with production overseas will have people onsite to monitor and make corrections as needed. A company wholly based overseas selling through 3rd-party wholesale channels is more likely to try and sell substandard goods here in the United States, IMHO.
Agree with Richard. Lots of implication of poor quality associated with country of mfg. Clearly, products made in China can be of high standard and complexity. If China can produce the most advanced iPhones then it can surely produce world class rubber tires given the proper oversight, quality labor and raw materials. That said, a random sample of Chinese tires tested here would probably reveal a fair number of substandard product.
Finding a tire company that has strong QA and management in country would be a fair indication of a quality tire. Personally, the price difference on a couple steers up front is hardly worth a second though when considering the additional risks of running shoddy tires on a 35 thousand pound lump of steel rolling down the highway at 60 mpg.
Quote from: PP on August 22, 2018, 08:01:40 AM
I didn't realize that Toyo's were made in China, I though they all came from Japan. They're as expensive here in Oregon as Michelins and considered of the same quality by most.
Toyo has a large plant in Georgia for smaller tires ,I always bought my Toyos in Oregon from Les Schwab or Lewis Brothers , they were not cheap but a good tire
Triangle doesn't produce just a couple of truck and coach tires.
http://triangletire.com/index_english.html
Good feedback guys--thanks...
A lot of truckers in my area are using these Triangles, with apparently good results..
315 is not a mounted price...may have to recruit an ex tire man who works for me to mount em a couple at a time, starting up front...12R was such an odd size to me, was afraid theyd be stupid expensive, but not so bad...
Plan on replacing wheels at the same time, i got 8 put back at work..stud pilot wheels not a hot item any more...cost more than hub pilots now.
Studs look old as dirt too, . If nothing else she'll have nice pretty new shoes..
Thanks again
I bought a Chineese tire mount/ dismount tool set similiar to the Golden Buddy set. Almost as easy as in the videos. New tires onto new rims is a snap. No need to pay someone to do it. Just study videos on U tube on mounting and dismounting semi tires and it's almost that easy. I found liquid dish soap works just as well as the other stuff.
Triangle has been around for awhile they are big into construction and mining,you see that name on the tires on Cat equipment costing in millions of dollars lol or like on my New Holland costing a few thousand