I note in the upper right-hand corner a small button. What is the deal with the "Donate" .... Keep the wheels moving button?
Clearly, the five W's are missing here (who, what, where, when and why). If you want someone to help or share resources, it would behoove you to tell them why.
FOR INSTANCE: What the resources are going for and the nature of your problem be made known to those who you are soliciting for funds and/or funding.
In other words ... "What's up with this?"
BCO
Whales are dying every day. If you hit the Donate button, every $1,000,000 will save 1 whale. Please Give. ;D
Just kidding. I was about to post a note about that today. Stay tuned.
Gary
Define a whale please 35,40 or 45 foot long ,GM, Eagle,MCI or Vanhool 8) lol I started to use that button but didn't because I was unsure
Quote from: luvrbus on July 27, 2018, 10:35:10 AM
Define a whale please 35,40 or 45 foot long ,GM, Eagle,MCI or Vanhool 8) lol I started to use that button but didn't because I was unsure
Well the Blue Whale is normally about 1000' long. Babes are probably much shorter. ;D
So $1.00/foot is the typical donation.
Quote from: luvrbus on July 27, 2018, 10:35:10 AM
Define a whale please 35,40 or 45 foot long ,GM, Eagle,MCI or Vanhool 8) lol I started to use that button but didn't because I was unsure
I really do not have an statistic's available at this time Clifford, but I am fairly sure that you would not want one to park on you or near you. Sources in the know, seem to believe they are in the $1M range, so that would put them near the bottom of .... What were we talking about here?
Gary needs to put out something about this if he is expecting any kind of donation or help. I am one of the dummies that got burned on the last go around with a two year subscription that materialized into a two issue drive by shooting.
BCO
Quote from: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on July 27, 2018, 10:38:39 AM
Well the Blue Whale is normally about 1000' long. Babes are probably much shorter. ;D
So $1.00/foot is the typical donation.
Oh no! If that is the current price of $1 per foot, you are sure a lot of these pikers on here Gary are going to be ordering up Poly-Wogs or something like that.
BCO *
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Continuing my never ending quest to post one time without editing in any shape form or manner. Friday! Off to eat some Chinese Food.
Donations are for Eagle rust repairs. First money goes for Gary's coach.😯
Even I am able to determine the buttons purpose.
But, drawing attention to it is a plus, I guess.
PS. Just because.
The button has been there for awhile,I know Gary has been taking money from his own pocket ever since he bought this stuff from Mike K. That is the difference between us I would have cut my losses and moved on but he likes the bus people so he is hanging in there.I was kidding Donald I knew what the button was for
Quote from: chessie4905 on July 27, 2018, 10:52:44 AM
Donations are for Eagle rust repairs. First money goes for Gary's coach.😯
Dam. The cat is out of the bag. :D
I saw the donate button. I know this board and website has money issues. Then yesterday I got a thank you for renewing my subscription to BCM digital, which I had never completed because I couldn't remember my password. Okay, I was going to renew anyway even though I have only read one issue in over a year. But I also noticed that they (BCM) put me on automatic payment for further remewals.
Damn, do deperate times call for desperate measures?
--Geoff
Quote from: Geoff on July 27, 2018, 11:18:37 AM
I saw the donate button. I know this board and website has money issues. Then yesterday I got a thank you for renewing my subscription to BCM digital, which I had never completed because I couldn't remember my password. Okay, I was going to renew anyway even though I have only read one issue in over a year. But I also noticed that they (BCM) put me on automatic payment for further remewals.
Damn, do deperate times call for desperate measures?
--Geoff
We set up all subscriptions as recurring (auto-renewal) over a year ago when we switched over to the new system as you will see in our subscription section (below). All magazines and many companies are doing that now. It makes it easier for our readers and for us as well so we do not need to send out as many renewal notices each month. Several people complained that they let their subscriptions lapse because they did not notice they were about to expire and then we had to send them their missing back issues and that got to be pretty expensive and time consuming. This solved that problem.
If anyone was auto-renewed but no longer wants to receive the magazine, simply call the office and we will reverse the transaction. Only two people have done so far because they sold their bus.
We were considering shutting down the Forum about 6 months ago because of the cost to maintain it and the cost to port it over to a newer, better server which was past due, but we decided instead (at the suggestion of one of our avid followers) to set up a Donation option to keep it going.
The Donate button as will be explained soon. Standby for more information.
The Management. ;)
Late to the Party (again) I thought the "BALUGA BUS" was in trouble (again?).
Quote from: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on July 27, 2018, 11:18:03 AM
Dam. The cat is out of the bag. :D
Gary you need LocTite, not rust repair. Jus sayin'
Lol Van, this whale just fot back from Sequoia NP and is 100% ready to go. If you want to donate to fuel, I'm good with that.
Matt
All is good, as long it is not M.A.K.
Quote from: Beluga Bus on July 27, 2018, 03:42:41 PM
Lol Van, this whale just fot back from Sequoia NP and is 100% ready to go. If you want to donate to fuel, I'm good with that.
Matt
Very nice! Hey Admin maybe we can each have a donate button,cost of fuel being what it is an all? No?
Quote from: Van on July 27, 2018, 04:44:37 PM
Very nice! Hey Admin maybe we can each have a donate button,cost of fuel being what it is an all? No?
Ha! Ha! 1000 Comedians out of work and you are trying to be funny. ;D
Not that I have to worry bout fuel mileage, now getting 100% increase in fuel mileage since selling my coach :o :o
No big deal here.
The people of Collinsport want to save their beloved BLUE WHALE tavern.
:)
Quote from: Van on July 27, 2018, 04:54:42 PM
Not that I have to worry bout fuel mileage, now getting 100% increase in fuel mileage since selling my coach :o :o
Yeah, but what is the sense of living if you don't have a bus? Everything else is just passing time. :-)
LOL Van never bought fuel for that bus anyways it was all down hill for him that model 15 averaged 20 MPG for years
I am open to the idea of helping to support this forum (and the magazine), but it is a business and not a charity. I have a business that does not make a lot of money, but it gives me exercise, and I feel good about helping customers that are older or handicapped. I have often joked that maybe I should make it a non-profit business so that I could pay myself better. ::)
Maybe making BCM and the forum a non-profit entity would make it more enduring and sustainable. It is an important resource for those of us involved with our conversions, but the act of conversion for buses has been declining (not counting the tiny house movement). I remember back in the nineties when I was at one of the MAK Bus Conventions, talking with the editor of the magazine (at the time), who said that BCM was "a cash cow" in the MAK organization. I suspect that was because of the healthy number of subscribers, and the numerous ads being placed by bus conversion suppliers. Things are a little different now.
If we contribute extra support beyond our subscription, I would hope that we would receive some recognition such as a "contributing member" emblem on our sign-in icon, or some other notation that costs nothing other than time. (The military does that well, they hand out medals to stir the troops up). Unlike big corporations that are too big to fail, but still need a government handout, BCM is too important to fail, and we are the only ones that care. :)
LOL I subscribe to the magazine I still haven't figured out to read it,my password doesn't work could be I forgot it too.Mike had 4 or 5 magazine to sell not just 1 I got shafted on his magazine Arrival a 2 year subscription I got 1
Quote from: luvrbus on July 28, 2018, 11:11:34 AM
LOL I subscribe to the magazine I still haven't figured out to read it,my password doesn't work could be I forgot it too.Mike had 4 or 5 magazine to sell not just 1 I got shafted on his magazine Arrival a 2 year subscription I got 1
You have my number Cliff. Other people have had problems accessing the Online magazine and call us for help. All it takes is one call and then you will be a happy camper. We can't help people that don't let us know they are having a problem. Also anyone who is not happy with the magazine will get a full refund, we like happy subscribers. With 400,000 subscribers, it is hard to keep up with all of them. :-)
Quote from: DoubleEagle on July 28, 2018, 11:02:53 AM
If we contribute extra support beyond our subscription, I would hope that we would receive some recognition such as a "contributing member" emblem on our sign-in icon, or some other notation that costs nothing other than time. (The military does that well, they hand out medals to stir the troops up). Unlike big corporations that are too big to fail, but still need a government handout, BCM is too important to fail, and we are the only ones that care. :)
No need for subscribers to Donate extra $. The Donate option if for folks that do not have a subscription as will be explained in a post coming soon. Some people have expressed an interest in helping to support the Forum but are not interested in a magazine subscription. That is what the Donation is all about. It is not cheap maintaining this forum especially after upgrading servers. Therefore Phil and I have been paying out of our own pockets to support the Forum for the past 6 years and I do not have another related business to help keep this afloat. More info will be coming in the next few days. BTW, Donations are optional and should be based on the value you receive from the Forum.
Quote from: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on July 28, 2018, 11:30:01 AM
You have my number Cliff. Other people have had problems accessing the Online magazine and call us for help. All it takes is one call and then you will be a happy camper. We can't help people that don't let us know they are having a problem. Also anyone who is not happy with the magazine will get a full refund, we like happy subscribers. With 400,000 subscribers, it is hard to keep up with all of them. :-)
Lol you helped me once I wasn't going to ask again
Quote from: luvrbus on July 28, 2018, 12:00:28 PM
Lol you helped me once I wasn't going to ask again
This what I live for. Do you want me to drive down there and show you how to start your computer too? ;D
Considering the vintage of most of the buses here, most would be more sympathetic to being asked to save a dinosaur.
Quote from: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on July 28, 2018, 11:37:36 AM
No need for subscribers to Donate extra $. The Donate option if for folks that do not have a subscription as will be explained in a post coming soon. Some people have expressed an interest in helping to support the Forum but are not interested in a magazine subscription. That is what the Donation is all about. It is not cheap maintaining this forum especially after upgrading servers. Therefore Phil and I have been paying out of our own pockets to support the Forum for the past 6 years and I do not have another related business to help keep this afloat. More info will be coming in the next few days. BTW, Donations are optional and should be based on the value you receive from the Forum.
So Gary it really is a non profit! Sorry couldn't resist ;)
Quote from: Dave5Cs on July 28, 2018, 03:02:09 PM
So Gary it really is a non profit! Sorry couldn't resist ;)
Yup. Has been since I took it over...unfortunately. :'(
Why were on the subject on the forum start page you put this...
Off Topic
Off the topic of busses.
It's Buses, More than one Bus
Busses mean "Kisses"
Just sayin :)
According to Funk & Wagnalls, the plural of bus is busses, but can be spelt either way. :-)
Our goal is zero defecks! ;D
A bus is Yellow! Busses haul school kids.We have Coaches! Or a coach.
Quote from: chessie4905 on July 28, 2018, 03:38:07 PM
A bus is Yellow! Busses haul school kids.We have Coaches! Or a coach.
Sometimes school kids ride in mine. So apparently sometimes I drive a bus and sometimes I drive a coach. Guess I will have to get a placard to flip over depending on my passenger load. ;D
Nope it stopped in 1961 check it out, LOL
Until 1961, 'busses' was the preferred plural of 'bus' in Merriam-Webster dictionaries. But the word 'buss' is a synonym of 'kiss'. Perhaps it's just as well that 'buses' took over.