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Title: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: thomasinnv on June 14, 2018, 12:18:29 PM
I was about 20 miles south of Springfield just loping along at 60 on a smooth straight highway when i heard a loud thud from the right front corner. Immediately pulled off to investigate and found a missing wheel stud on the right steer. Limped into a fleetpride and they now have 10 right hand and 10 left hand studs on a fedex truck. Should be back on the road tomorrow afternoon. First thing that came to mind was the fella that had his drive wheels come off a few weeks ago. His misfortune prompted me to not even consider just replacing the broken stud and the adjacent ones on either side of it like some had suggested. Just not worth the risk over a couple hundred bucks.

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Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: buswarrior on June 14, 2018, 01:11:10 PM
Proudly spend the money, and I will proudly cheer you on!

And stand ready to beat with a tire iron, anyone who tries to gun the fasteners on ever again.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: Lin on June 14, 2018, 01:13:01 PM
I guess this would go under the category, "What is peace of mind worth?".
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: eagle19952 on June 14, 2018, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Lin on June 14, 2018, 01:13:01 PM
I guess this would go under the category, "What is peace of mind worth?".

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Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: luvrbus on June 14, 2018, 04:11:46 PM
It depends on the individual,replacing the broken stud along with 2 adjoining studs (1 up and 1 down) is a DOT ruling and I am ok with it lol I would rather have 7 studs made in the USA than 10 made in China.

I refuse to use studs made in China even if the made in the USA studs do cost 3 times as much   
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: richard5933 on June 14, 2018, 04:17:33 PM
I agree with replacing them all if possible. May not be necessary, but my peace of mind is worth more than the studs cost.
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: chessie4905 on June 14, 2018, 04:23:52 PM
I hope he didn't  tighten everything back up with a big @$# impact wrench. ???
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: windtrader on June 14, 2018, 05:09:48 PM
Get 80 then maybe you'll sleep better. I wouldn't as I'd never hear the end of spending a grand on wheel studs and nuts. lol
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: luvrbus on June 14, 2018, 05:18:06 PM
Quote from: windtrader on June 14, 2018, 05:09:48 PM
Get 80 then maybe you'll sleep better. I wouldn't as I'd never hear the end of spending a grand on wheel studs and nuts. lol

Lol a year later and I still get the question by a certain female  :D
Title: Re: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: thomasinnv on June 15, 2018, 05:16:56 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on June 14, 2018, 04:11:46 PM
It depends on the individual,replacing the broken stud along with 2 adjoining studs (1 up and 1 down) is a DOT ruling and I am ok with it lol I would rather have 7 studs made in the USA than 10 made in China.

I refuse to use studs made in China even if the made in the USA studs do cost 3 times as much   
Had it been a case of being twisted off during lug nut installation I would probably have been satisfied with replacing the 3, but becuase it came off while just rolling down the highway and there were visible signs of damage to several other studs from possible over tightening in the past, I feel better about carting my family around with all the new studs.

Some of you might remember the fiasco I went thru a few years ago with having the engine and trans rebuilt in my mc8. After dumping literally tens of thousands of dollars into it I ended up selling it for about scrap value becuase I no longer had any confidence in it. Every time I fired it up I was wondering how far it would take me before it blew apart. That's not a good way to travel. When I put my family in a rig, no matter what it is, I have to have some level of confidence that it will get us safely to our destination. If I don't have that, then it has to go.

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Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: luvrbus on June 15, 2018, 05:54:34 AM
They probably were over tighten if there were signs on the others I would I have went with 10 in that case,the 1-1/8 stud on the stud pilot wheel is a tough stud to break they don't break on their own, or do you have hub pilot wheels they break easier 
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: thomasinnv on June 15, 2018, 07:03:44 AM
They are stud pilot

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Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: luvrbus on June 15, 2018, 07:12:33 AM
Some tire monkey really hammered on it with a 1 inch I/R gun with a good air supply to damage those,better check the wheels real close  
Title: Re: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: thomasinnv on June 15, 2018, 07:39:35 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on June 15, 2018, 07:12:33 AM
Some tire monkey really hammered on it with a 1 inch I/R gun with a good air supply to damage those,better check the wheels real close  
There is some evidence in the nut wells (some galling) that they were overtightened, but no cracks.

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Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on June 15, 2018, 08:13:29 AM
Did you check the back side of the wheel?  I had a fine crack on the back side of both of my front wheels from being over torqued by tire shops.  Cracks couldn't be seen on the front side and just barely showed under the paint on the back side but were definitely there. New wheels all around after that and nobody touched them but me while we still had the bus.
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: thomasinnv on June 15, 2018, 02:40:40 PM
20 new studs showed up this morning. New stids and new nuts installed and we are rolling again.

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Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: luvrbus on June 15, 2018, 04:44:06 PM
Did you get out for a couple hundred bucks ? like you were planning on
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: Van on June 15, 2018, 05:35:18 PM
Maybe it was parts+labor? It's only money, right? lol

Title: Re: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: thomasinnv on June 15, 2018, 05:58:44 PM
Quote from: luvrbus on June 15, 2018, 04:44:06 PM
Did you get out for a couple hundred bucks ? like you were planning on
That was just for parts. Total bill came in at $440

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Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: luvrbus on June 15, 2018, 06:41:49 PM
LOL my studs and nuts cost more than $440.00
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: Van on June 16, 2018, 05:29:24 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on June 15, 2018, 06:41:49 PM
LOL my studs and nuts cost more than $440.00

LOL Everyone Knows they are bigger in Texas  ;D
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: luvrbus on June 16, 2018, 06:33:23 AM
He got a good price on the studs if they are American made, he must have steel wheels,I have some here I bought from Nicks for $5.70 ea for steel wheels made in China though I use those for paper weights 
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: thomasinnv on June 16, 2018, 06:41:05 AM
The studs cane from euclid (no idea where they were made) @ 9.45ea left and 9.75ea right. All new nuts and washers on the back side and new lug nuts @ 1.39ea. Overnite freight at just over $20.

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Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: luvrbus on June 16, 2018, 06:56:25 AM
Almost double in price as for the China made you probably did get American made studs.hard for me to understand how they can justify doubling the price for a 1/4 inch longer stud for Alcoa wheels  ??? on a MCI 
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: windtrader on June 16, 2018, 09:38:51 AM
Quote.hard for me to understand how they can justify doubling the price for a 1/4 inch longer stud for Alcoa wheels
Simple! Supply and demand. You want Alcoas - pay up! lol
Title: Re: Broken wheel stud in Springfield MO
Post by: luvrbus on June 16, 2018, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: windtrader on June 16, 2018, 09:38:51 AM
Simple! Supply and demand. You want Alcoas - pay up! lol

I did payup there was no other choice  ;D