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Title: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: rusty on May 29, 2018, 08:00:29 AM
We are thinking about putting a house type audio receiver in our 15. When the 120 volt switches between shore power and inverter power there is always a momentary loss of power. Will this cause a problem to the audio system. If we plug in everyday on a trip that loss will be twice a day.

Thank You Wayne
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: PP on May 29, 2018, 08:03:49 AM
I don't know about your radio, but our TV has been handling the switch fine for several years now. We don't have Dish any longer, but the dish recver used to be fine switching all the time too and ours is not a Pure sine wave inverter, just an old Heart.
Will
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: bevans6 on May 29, 2018, 09:25:00 AM
The receiver will turn off for an instant and then turn on again.  It's various feature sets will determine what this means - it means nothing to the basic function, since such receivers are designed for momentary loss of power, but it might cause pre-sets to be lost, a clock function to need to be reset, and so on.  My home receivers don't have preset radio frequencies, but some might - if they do they probably have a battery or similar memory support so you don't lose everything with a power outage.

Brian
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: luvrbus on May 29, 2018, 09:43:57 AM
I always turn our Bose system off, just a habit for me power changes probably would have no ill affects on it but I don't chance it, the repair places hold a gun to your head when repairing it BTDT. They don't seem to like any kind of spike we have Marantz in the house if it gets a spike you can kiss $300.00 good by     
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: neoneddy on May 29, 2018, 10:13:50 AM
It depends how fast the switch is.

Most electronics run on DC current that is transformed / rectified from the 120AC, they use filtering capacitors to clean the DC power, those capacitors will act as a little lifeboat of sorts during the switch over.  As long as it's fast enough .1 to .3 seconds I'd say, you'll be fine.  I've run mine with a few automatic transfer switches, all my computers, tvs and receivers have been fine with it.
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: rusty on May 29, 2018, 10:38:17 AM
Thank You all. I did not think about the TV. I guess I have been doing it to the TV for years. The only thing is with the TV I always have it off when I switch over. I can do the same with the receiver.

Thank You Wayne
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: uncle ned on May 29, 2018, 10:45:04 AM

Wayne

Buy a good ups  one that is on all the time not one that switches.  They are a lot cheaper than replacing electronic equipment.

Helps when you get power surges also when on shore power.


uncle ned
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: neoneddy on May 29, 2018, 11:23:39 AM
Quote from: uncle ned on May 29, 2018, 10:45:04 AM
Wayne

Buy a good ups  one that is on all the time not one that switches.  They are a lot cheaper than replacing electronic equipment.

Helps when you get power surges also when on shore power.


uncle ned

This is good cheap insurance in general.
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: eagle19952 on May 29, 2018, 11:28:28 AM
I have some pretty nice Yamaha stuff, but most of my outlets are 100% 24/7 fed off of a sub-panel that is powered by my inverter output.
They never know if I'm on the pole or running my generator.
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: bigred on May 29, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
We up graded our tvs about a year ago with Vizio TV'S and it will drive you crazy having to reprogram the darned thing every time you change locations .There is no fast track either!!
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: Iceni John on May 29, 2018, 12:22:39 PM
Quote from: uncle ned on May 29, 2018, 10:45:04 AM
Wayne

Buy a good ups  one that is on all the time not one that switches.  They are a lot cheaper than replacing electronic equipment.

Helps when you get power surges also when on shore power.


uncle ned
I also agree.   A computer UPS doesn't cost much, and as long as you change out its gelcell 7aH battery every two or three years they'll be ideal.   You can even get 9aH batteries now of the same size for a slightly longer run time.   I plan on using a UPS for my wonderful old Quad 33/303 amps that are too good to not use in the bus!

John
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: richard5933 on May 29, 2018, 02:33:24 PM
I was going to suggest a battery backup as well. One caution though, as I've found that some battery backup packs don't work on an inverter and/or don't work on an inverter that isn't PSW.

Last summer I tried a battery backup on our flat screen TV, and it would not take a charge from the inverter at all. It worked well on generator or shore power, but not on inverter. Could never figure out exactly why since the only inverter we had at the time was not PSW, but that was my hunch.
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: rusty on May 30, 2018, 05:44:22 AM
Good to hear from you Ned. Thank you all for the advice. I will be using a battery backup system makes perfect sense.

Wayne
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: belfert on May 30, 2018, 09:52:58 AM
My microwave is fed from an inverter circuit, but it still loses power for a brief second when the inverter transfers to shore power.  It doesn't seem to hurt it.
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: RJ on May 30, 2018, 11:23:52 AM
Rusty -

I'm old-school when it comes to transferring from shore power to the generator or vice versa.

We just turn off all the a/c circuits at the main panel, then turn them back on once the power comes back online.

We don't have an inverter on board at this time, but will be adding one after we install some solar.

The only thing we have to reprogram is the clock on the convection microwave, which takes what, 30 seconds or so?

Our coach's "sound system" is simply a 12vdc Kenwood AM/FM/XM/CD head unit purchased from an automotive stereo shop.

The TV and Dish box are usually off during the day when we're rolling along, so it's not an issue for them, as they're not normally turned on until after dinner anyway.

FWIW & HTH. . .

;)
Title: Re: Question about house type audio receivers
Post by: chessie4905 on May 30, 2018, 03:47:51 PM
As I understand from a tv dealer- technician the dish and direct tv receiver is always on unless it is unplugged. The remote just turns the light off. Otherwise it will take some minutes to boot up. That sounds right because a momentary power outage will make box take a few minutes to start up.