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After reading all the projects going on here I decided I would get  involved myself. Hope I can pic all the brains here once in a while. It'll be the first of march before the weather gets good enough to bring it home ( SC to OR ) as winter is too deep right now.  Jerry
88 MC102A3 ?  8V92 auto 4spd.

Welcome to the Asylum Jerry!

You'll have many long tales of funto tell soon enough!

Where in SC is the coach located? If you need any help, there are quite a few of us nuts in the area.

Dallas

Way to go Jerry, You just did something a lot of us want to do. I hope to see pictures soon.

Dean
Wvanative

The bus is in Greer SC ( at Least NW SC helps)

Small world, I'm in Greer SC.  ;D ;D

Let me know when you come to get her, I'd like to see her too! I may even buy lunch.

kyle4501

Kyle,
Maybe you can go check it out for me and see how bad off I am.  I-85 exit 60
2239 Hwy 101 S. Greer
Jerry

Wow,

Holler at me too, maybe we can make a day of it!

I need a road trip!

Dallas

Hey got lots of SC bus people.

Hi Jerry,

Congrats. to you!  I wish you lots of fun and many memories with your project.

We are here, just start asking questions......

Nick-

Thanks Nick,
I hope to gleen some info from where ever anf find where to go to get the right stuff to make this bus do it's thing. I guess we all have our ideas to roll our own and have a machine that peforms for a long time with out spending all our spare time working on it. I think the whole idea makes a good hobby and a place to direct whatever creative energy we can muster and afford.

Jerry

Quote from: Dallas on February 06, 2007, 06:09:19 PM
Wow,
Holler at me too, maybe we can make a day of it!
I need a road trip!    Dallas

Yeah! Me too.  I'm not too far from Greer.  Who wants to do it on a Monday?  That's my day off you know.  Dallas, I'll bet you could have Monday off if you really wanted to!  ;)
I don't know bo about a 102A3, but if it's nice....mmmmmmmmm..Jerry, have you already paid for it??   ::)
Call me if anyone's interested in doing a Monday evaluation.  704 650 0235
I'll drive down to Greer to see a bus that's about to travel cross country! Wow! That's gonna be a ride!  :D  Be a fun ride in the late spring or summer.
Snow sucks.  Ice sucks more.
Best, JR

No It's not paid for yet but just a deposit until I send the rest of the mooola. Appreciate the help . They say the tires are shot and I need to know if they will make it to ORegon. They claim it runs great but then they are selling. Jerry

Quote from: NJT5047 on February 06, 2007, 07:40:14 PM
Who wants to do it on a Monday?  That's my day off you know.  Dallas, I'll bet you could have Monday off if you really wanted to!  ;)

Best, JR

Well Shucks! I've got to work on Monday. Maybe I can go over on Saturday morning with a camera.

Jerry, Have you been here to inspect the bus?

You only 5 miles from the airport (GSP) which is 6 miles from me. If you need a ride from the airport, let me know.

As for the tires. . . How long are you planning on the conversion work to take? If over a couple of years, I'd suggest getting some decent takeoffs to make the trip home. (I have tires on my bus that are too old to use safely, but they only have 20k miles on them.)

Thats certainly a very nice model bus to convert.  Nice looking, large and great drivetrain. Congrats!

give us a call  all of the carolina people will try to meet you and welcome you to the busnut world.

jr we might meet up in gastonia and get with dallas and ride down.  if the bus makes it up blackmountain  he will have it made.

Uncle Ned
4104 "Huggy Bear"

Now find a Bus Rally to attend.  Spend three days, it will be like a class room.  I spent two days in Arcadia, everyone was GREAT educating me answering every question I had and I had lots of them.

Thanks again to everyone in Florida that showed me in, under and over there coaches.

Bill W.

Still in Little Rock
Raytheon DASR RADAR Project

Hey guys,I havn't inspected the bus and the folks selling it don't sound to knowledgable to me so I would like to find out some things which I don't get any clear answers on from them. I don't know what model transmission or if it has a retarder or jake brake. They claim it runs good but I would like somewone to start it up and air it up and report what it looks like to you. The thing looks like whoever got rid of it took all the good tires and wheels and put on steel wheels and all the worst tires and some paint to sell it. I believe that MCI's had a spare behind the front bumper but I don't  know if this is true so anyway I told them I needed a spare to travel with. I dont want to hazve to buy tires before I get to Oregon as prefer to have local dealer and oregon has no sales tax.Jerry

Are you in this for the adventure?

I might suggest you get  someone from the board to take a look at it for you and give you an evaluation prior to buying an airplane ticket.  There seems to be several guys that I know could provide a good report not too far from the bus

Offer to pay them for thier time. maybe 200.00 for the day????

If it passes that test, find a bus mechanic to evaluate it for you futher........Most definitley before you drive it 3000 miles.

no idea what you are paying for it, but there are buses for sale on the west coast....probably in equal or better shape and for the same price.

seems like alot of effort for a common bus with unknown history.

Also scarey is the fact they don't know anything about it......who knows how they abused it prior to deciding to sell it.

Hey T-bird, look at the bright side for this guy and his purchase... it's not an Eagle!  :D

Ace

yep , won't have to worry about worn out torsilastics, and copious amounts of rust, expensive parts etc etc........LOL

Just kidding all you Eagle Freaks

I have been looking for a bus on the west coast but couldn't find one with an 8V92. the only ones I seen were in the east or mid west. Also buying in the west doesn't mean it's not 2000 miles from home. I  think anyone familiar with DD's could start this thing up and get a good idea of good or bad. This is from EB and they have 100% and claim it drives great and runs really well. However I would like a bus person to look at for me too. I've certainly run my share of old equipment and usually take plenty of tools along but can't do it since I will have to fly out to get it. The reason I want an 8V is west coast mountains and also want to convert to UVO WVO and will lose some power that way.   Jerry

Also I wanted a widebody as my present MH is a widebody and I sseen that GM have the crossways engine and eagles have rust problems so went after an MCI.  I have an allegro bus with a cummins engine in it now and no way to put in an extra tank for conversion. The cummins is to weak for the mountains even though I have upgraded the power the cooling system can't keep up.   Jerry

not exactly true on the DD the 6-71 in my 04 prior to a new one being put in ran well, didn't smoke etc.....but when taken out and looked at My DD guy and the mechanic who took it out were supprised it was running so well with the wear it had.....now is that a good thing or a bad thing?  Was running great worn out but was a ticking time bomb in my book.

I understand that isf you buy a bus on the west coast in say LA you stiill have a drive on your hands.

With the seller not knowing about buses what they say about driving well is not worth the time to even say that........I have gone to look at alot of buses and other vehicles that were said to  run and drve great only to find them having serious issues.

Where were you looking for buses and what is your shell budget,

ABC, MAK as well as a bunch of other sales places on the west coast have lots of buses on hand, there are even a few in your neck of the woods.\

I think you will find you will notice little diffwerence in power on the smaller motor......at least not enough to make it a buying issue IMHO

Sure it will be  a bit slower on a grade but that does not really ad up to much lost time on a trip in reality.

Now as a regular Ebay both personal and for business....feedback is important, but you must consider how many feedbacks they have, and also what else they were selling.......

selling and getting 5000 positive feedbacks for selling Roundtuits, does not mean they know about buses or anything else for that matter.  They may not be trying to mislead you but if they don't know buses and are saying it drives and runs great they can't reasonably say that unless they qualify it by saying 'but I really don't know buses"

Ex, I looked at an MC-8 a few years ago......Corporate owned from new ......Pics looked great......But pics are great lyers...even if the photographer is well intentioned.....and that can go both ways, but the thing was not that nice in person, ran great, but smoked badly on a warm day, Had some maint records but they were shoddy and work was done at very oddball places and not by bus people.  In Fact some of the work that was done was obvious........and obviously was starting to fail just a few hthousand miles later.

Again, I would pay one of the guys that lives around there to go give it a run and drive.

If it passes that test arrange to have it inspected in more depth

If it passes then Fly in and pay after you inspect it ( this is better done while it is being prof. inspected.

As far as tools.

Buy what you need after you pick up the bus.....Sears...and take what you don't use back when you get home.

Yes I am in Yuma AZ now and it takes me three days to get home from here. The outfit I am buying from is a small RV dealer and car dealer. ...Jerry

Quote from: uncle ned on February 07, 2007, 07:00:38 AM


give us a call  all of the carolina people will try to meet you and welcome you to the busnut world.

jr we might meet up in gastonia and get with dallas and ride down.  if the bus makes it up blackmountain  he will have it made.

Uncle Ned
4104 "Huggy Bear"

Hi Ned,  Sure could.   You would be coming down 321?
We'll see what Dallas has planned and figure something out.
Dallas?!!  What's up?
JR

T-Bird I was in your corner when Ace was beating you up in that eagle thread but you are really going over board pissing on this guys parade. He obviously has been looking for a bus before he bought this one and did some shopping and research. And bought this bus because it met his needs. Budget, style, Drive train and so on. And In this bus community I don't think he needs to PAY anybody to go check it out, were bus NUTS we'll drive any where within reason to look at a bus and evaluate it to help out and meet another bus nut. Give the guy a break  ;)  ;D

Some people can afford prevosts but I am retired now and SS isn't like those pensions that politions get... I sarted with nothing and I've still got most of it. I just wanted a project to work on and sell the MH I have and join all the people here looking for pieces to make and old bus work.  Jerry

There is a bill now being mauled over by congress to rename social security to social insecurity

Jerry,

All I can say is buy what you can afford and HAVE FUN DOING IT!

When I bought mine I had all kinds of dreams to what I wanted and could afford, that was three years ago. I am still plugging along and I ENJOY EVERY MINUTE OF IT.

It is fun to purchase the coach of your dreams, plan what you want to do with it, make changes along the way and enjoy your coach even if it is not finished.

Anything purchased that is used is bound to wear out, break down and collapse. But that is half the fun, when it breaks, figure it out on how best to fix it.

This is a hobby for most of us BUSNUTS. Enjoy the progress you put into it. HAVE FUN DOING IT!!!!

Happy Trails,

Paul

Dreamscape

Good luck Jerry!! I'm pullin for ya!! I kinda went at my purchase a bit on the "blind side" also, but I love my buffalo. It's great fun to fix up.
 If ya come by Cincy or Indy on the way home and need a hand, let me know. I'd do what I can. It's what being in this fantastic hobby is all about.  Kinda like riding Harleys!!! Right Ron?!?!

   It's fun,
          Chaz

  p.s. Paul just posted before I got this off and he is right on the money!!!

Jerry:
I will be in Quartzsite Feb 14 thru 16th, probally at the High Jolly camp ground on HWY 95.  I have a MCI 7, don't know a lot but love my bus. If interested in trying to meet with me give me a call on my cell 928-300-9046.
ED
MCI 7
Cornville, AZ

Ron, I am not pissing on anyones dream.  Just posting my ideas.

I suggested paying, I am not retired so taking off work costs me......if it was around the corner no problem but taking 1/2 day or so I would not offer it up for free Unless I wanted to see it for some reason of my own.

I looked at a 4905 that was a few miles from me a year or so ago for a guy in the midwest...gratis

Now as I said I said to pay.....if you or  someone else turns it down...thats your call.....offering to pay is just polite......if you don't have the money don't offer but Everyones time is worth something in my book...if they choose not to accept payment becasue they are a freind, want to help out etc.....thats fine.

Jerry sent me the link to this bus. And I told him he likely won't find another 102 as cheap as that one.

it clearly needs tires as stated in the description.  has some sort of goop on all the roof seams, 600k on the odo, at least a second owner bus

seller is a used RV dealer  with great feedback, but as Jerry said they don't know buses.

having sold and brokered a few buses in my day ( for profit), I have discussed with prospective buyers the cost of converting and maintaining a bus (even ones with known histories)and have had more people walk away........and I feel good about not taking thier money

Jerry has an Alegro Bus motorhome which are nice, although as we all know are not really buses, does he really want to go from Nice Alegro to beat up MCI?  Does he really think that his fully converted WVO powered Bus is going to perform better in the big grades of the west coast?

he is wanting to convert to WVO at the known cost of loss of performance.

he is likely buying a bus with 600k onthe engine and trans.

Is he looking for a project?  If So great, I have seen antique cars that were total losses in my book and someone restored them because that was thier hobby.....with no accounting for the time invested.

I am no Prevost owner 4104 that has been in the family since 1978, MC-8 that I have had for two years, my Dad has a 4108 and is in the process of buying another one.

My Dad has bought two flxliners restoring one and selling at a loss, and bought and restored the MACK MV-620 prototype.....so I know busnuts.

But I also know the atrition rate, and the number of people that get in over thier head.....or uninformed.

I feel good about my warnings as warnings are meant to inform......

and that is indeed what his initial post was asking for, information on a bus that is 300 miles from him with no history and sellers who don't know buses.

IGNORANCE is not Bliss.

I think Kyle is 6 miles from the bus.......get over there and inspect it for the man.

Most of us get in over our heads, I did (twice) but most of us can swim and if we're week swimmers and need help there's plenty of lifeguards on here and close by. JJ helped me wire the other bus actually I helped him. Others have came around when I was near by just out of curiosity. And I've visited others. Most of us have already made up our minds when we ask for advice or opinions on here and looking for a little support.

Look at the thread title    I bought a used bus Now What? past tense.  not trying to be a prick here either so don't take offense with my post

Quoteand that is indeed what his initial post was asking for, information on a bus that is 300 miles from him with no history and sellers who don't know buses

SC to OR is more like 4000 miles I think.
Richard

it is a long trip and will take a week maybe. I drove from Long Island NY to Astoria Or and back one time and it was only 3000 miles each way. did the whole trip in seven days. Jerry

won on ebay, yet to be paid for , at least earlier in this thread.

I guess just color me conservative.......I know a huge oxymoron.

Although I have purchased cars off ebay none were paid for prior to me showing up in person, and I have bid on many a bus on ebay, bidding conservatively considering what may be wrong.

My MC-8 was an ebay bus although I purchased it off of ebay.......called the guys talked for about an hour to figure out he knew what he was talking about and was not full of used car salesman $#!%.  Drove down to NC from PA looked at and drove the bus....said I had to think about it.......talked it over on the way home......called the guy the next day said I would take it but it might be a few weeks until I could coordinate to get down and pick it up........he said he would deliver it for me on his dime that weekend.

I know this is a rare example....

I am not doubting anyones willingness to help a guy out....but if he is on a budget there are expensive contigencies to at least consider.  There is stuff that can break in the middle of BFE Utah or kansas that the parts alone could run him into some pretty hefty bills.

Again, before I would pay I would have someone that is reputable look at run and drive the beast.

then prior to paying would have it at a DD Dealer and over a Pit.

Jerry,

Good luck on this bus.

No one wants to discourage you, just save you the pitfalls that us or others have been through.

When I bought my bus my eyes looked like this   :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Next bus like this  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

I have enjoyed every moment I have worked on my bus, that said, I would not have bought this bus with

what I know now.   My heart overlooked things that took many (100's) hours to fix and make right.  Its a

sweet running machine now, and I wouldn't trade it, but, I learned a lesson.

These are expensive toys, especially to fix, I would not hesitate to get someone to at least look at it

before I flew out.

Good luck in your search

Cliff

JR,
It'll probably be best if I meet you there, since I'm just a tad bit out of the way.

You guys make the plans then let me know so I know when to leave here!


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Wow Dallas, Didn't know you could sing like that ;D

Dang!
Neither Did I or anyone else.

Quote from: Dallas on February 07, 2007, 04:48:25 PM
JR,
It'll probably be best if I meet you there, since I'm just a tad bit out of the way.

You guys make the plans then let me know so I know when to leave here!

Quote from: Dallas on February 07, 2007, 04:48:25 PM
JR,
It'll probably be best if I meet you there, since I'm just a tad bit out of the way.

You guys make the plans then let me know so I know when to leave here!

Hi Dallas, yep, that "321" comment was directed at Uncle Ned (Do you have Ned's phone number?).   I figured you'll go straight over from Florence.  What you doing on Monday?  I'll buy you lunch!  I owe you a couple meals anyway!  Also owe you a few adult bevs?
Believe I owe NCBob a couple too.
You still got the same phone numbers?  I tried both and got Cat's cell phone but no answer.  Said she was on the phone.  
I'll try again tomorrow.   I don't have any problem having a look at Jerry's bus.  
Nothing going on up here at all.  Was nice today, but lately it ain't been fit to go outside.  
Glad I don't live up there in Minnesquito...Craig must be loving the H*# out of that weather.  Butch seems to be enjoying himself in the negative temps in Indiana.
Anyway, let me know if your free.  I'll see if Neds available for this Monday or next?  
Maybe they'll be passing out samples at the Beemer plant~!
Maybe the owner will take us for a ride in J's 102.  Then we could really offer some advice.  I have some advice already.  
Jerry, plan on some new tires before lighting out across the county.  The bus probably has 12 or 13R-22.5 tires and they are generally expensive on the road.  You may be able to buy a set for the cost of a couple highway replacements.
I believe you asked if a spare would go behind the front bumper...the answer is yes...but, consider the bays for spare tires since they will be empty or mostly empty.  Much easier to access from a bay.  I've got a steel spare and I place it in the spare tire compartment with a loader.  It's a heavy beast.  BTW, there has been some discussion about fit of a 13R in an MCI spare tire compartment...it will go with room to spare...FWIW.

Best,  JR

JR,

I asked, (very humbly) if I could have permission to trek on over to Greer and got the OK.

Give me a call tomorrow. We changed phones and my number is 843.496.9176

The LL should be turned off by now, but there isn't anything hooked up to it anyway!

Dallas

I'll call you tomorrow...tell Cat she's a kind person!
Now where's Huggy Bear?
I've got Ned's address in my laptop...the one T took to work today for a PP presentation...and came back without the power supply. The battery will get it going, but it won't last more than a few minutes...need a new battery.  May need a new power supply too.  Bummer!
JR

Hey what about me!!!  I wanna go!!!!!  I'll take the digital video cam too!  Please!!!

Let'me know when you go kyle and when ya'll come down too, you can park your bus in the yard or driveway! Sat would be better for me. Nuthin like a trip to Sugar Tit!!  well your almost there anyway.

I looked at an 8 from that rvsforless fellow before i bought my 9, he was nice and the 8 was nice but a little too rusty for my liking.  There is an rv parts/service place next door to him.  an DD/alison place is close by (you'll pass it) and international truck place an exit up past the airport, and 101 is near the airport too, and T/A up one more exit past 101 with scales and used to have a place close by that polished stainless(not sure if it's still there).  

If you would like to pay some one for a report, call Juan at Deltaways and he used to do such and is known around here for 2-strokes amongst bus people.  Also Johnny or Robby (brothers) over at Jeanes Bus and they might help you out.

How bout posting a link and/or  pics?    

Congrats and I hope this works out for you!

jr and dallas

just let me know what day and time.  828-758 5820 will get me most of the time or leave me a message

uncle ned
"huggy Bear"

ps also look forward to seeing some 4501's in greer. hear he has several maybe not red

Hey Jon, (I wus gonna call U, honest!)
I'm planning on doin' a look-see on Sat after lunch since the lot is open 11am to 4pm on Sat & 9:30 to 6:30 weekdays.

I'll post what I find out & maybe a picture too!

Then you smart guys from out of town can come by & find all the stuff I missed  ;D

kyle4501

BTW, since Jerry lives a little west of here, wouldn't it make better sense for him to buy tires at a place that can service his after the sale needs a little closer to OR.

I have to work (While some of my buses may have been free, ain't none of 'em cheap!) on Monday. One of mine is in Lyman, the other 3 are near Columbia.

I think I would worry about belts and hoses more than tires.  Good morning to whoever might be around. Another great day in Yuma at 65 deg this am and going to the high 70's.

Jerry

Quote from: Jerry32 on February 08, 2007, 08:49:13 AM
I think I would worry about belts and hoses more than tires.  Good morning to whoever might be around. Another great day in Yuma at 65 deg this am and going to the high 70's.

Jerry

You don't hafta get mean and na rubbin in your good weather especially since we'll be lookin at your bus in 51 degree weather. :D

Send me your phone number and I'll call you from the cell when we're there.

When are Dallas and JR and all comin down?

NewbeeMC9

The rest are doin it on Monday as they say and I sent the cell on your e mail Jerry

JR and I talked the other day. We'll probably meet in Greer about 11.

Itinerary:
Meet
Inspect bus
go for lunch
inspect waitrii (plural of waitress)
inspect other stuf.
go home.

Fun for all and promises to be a fine time!

QuoteJR and I talked the other day. We'll probably meet in Greer about 11.

Itinerary:
Meet
Inspect bus
go for lunch
inspect waitrii (plural of waitress)
inspect other stuf.
go home.

I'm jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Sounds like ALLOT of fun!!!!

We'll post later when we get back from cruizing around in jerrys bus.  we've bout filled it up with strippers :D ;) 

the bus survived the jump test (over a yugo) and the wheely test ( held it for a quarter mile).  were gonna roll test it after while. :D

this 8v92 are cool and the flames shooting out the back are AWSOME!! ;) ;D

Dallas, JR

I gotta work monday but i won't do it hungry.  would like to meet for Waitrii!
  let me know when ya'll come

Quote from: NewbeeMC9 on February 10, 2007, 03:34:06 PM
We'll post later when we get back from cruizing around in jerrys bus.  we've bout filled it up with strippers :D ;) 

the bus survived the jump test (over a yugo) and the wheely test ( held it for a quarter mile).  were gonna roll test it after while. :D

this 8v92 are cool and the flames shooting out the back are AWSOME!! ;) ;D

Dallas, JR

I gotta work monday but i won't do it hungry.  would like to meet for Waitrii!
  let me know when ya'll come

Hey Jon!
At least you could leave us the side impact test and the frontend collision test!
I wanna see how well it does when your trying to pull the engine with a forklift and you've had a few cool adult beverages and your kinda goin' too fast and not aimed very well.
this is all in the interest of inspection and safety, you know!

By the way, did the exhaust drag when you were doin' wheelies, or did they come off later when you were jumping curbs?

We'll be expecting you for lunch! Your treat!

Jon & I met another bus nut at the sales lot to look at Jerry's bus. Sorry Jerry, but you need to cut your losses & abandon this lost cause. Don't waste any $$ on a plane ticket. To help you out, I'll take care of disposing of this vehicle for you for a very small fee. LOL Seriously though, the main thing wrong with this bus is that I didn't find it first!

The engine didn't smoke like you thought a DD 2-stroke should when started in 40 F. Just a little black smoke & that was it! Jon drove it & said that he was afraid of the power. I was following & he didn't poke around.

Took some time to air up though, rose to 70 psi & sat there a while before it went to 120psi. The fast isle didn't work till the pressure went above 70.

Minimal rust, the only place that looked like it needed attention was above the blowers.

No curb rash either! The body was very straight.

Only air leak I heard was at the rear wheels when brakes were applied.

It currently has several empty gallon jugs of 15w-40 in the bay. That needs to be corrected.

It had a coolant leak that looks to be an easy fix. The interior was in good shape too!


Over all, an awesome bus for the dough. Way to go Jerry! I think I'll let you pick out my next one  ;D

The people at the sales lot were GREAT! No perssure & wanted to make sure they hadn't missed anything.

Jerry, keep us posted when you come to get her. . .

I'm glad to hear that it might be a good buy. I knew what I wanted and hoped that it would turn out good. I know I'll not put a lot of miles on it but hopefully minor repairs will keep it up. Sure appreciate you giving it a look. I suppose the sales lot might have put the  oil in it and didn't know the right oil. I'd like to know what the engine is set up for in HP but guess I can figure that out as time goes by. I now need to find manual for it and will have to have some SS simulators to cover up the steel wheels. Didn't find out the tire size but probably 22.5's . Have to get rid of the charter outfits name etc. I'll have a million questions about conversion the first is where do you get rid of the seats. Maybe someone want some for a home theatre.    Jerry

Jerry,

Please post picutres when you get the coach. Sounds like you found a gem.

I would love to see them.

Happy Trails,

Paul

Dreamscape

All I need to  know is how to post pictures. I looked through history and didn't find the info to posting pictures

When you want to post a picture do you see on the bottom left of the screen, ADDITIONAL OPTIONS? Click on that and you should be able to where it says ATTACH.

Hope this helps.

Paul

see if this works

For those visiting our little town, the BMW plant is a neat place to tour

http://www.bmwzentrum.com/information/tour_times.asp

If you don't take the plant tour, the Zentrum museum was worthwhile to see.

Jerry, according to Lonnie (the salesman), the local DD place said the motor was 'turned up to almost max HP'. So for a mechanical 8V92T wouldn't that be 475hp?

Jerry, Contact me off the board about service manuals.

Dallas

Kyle,    Lonnie didn't tell me that but glad to hear it and yes usually they can run up to 475 HP and in industrial use up to 600 HP. I guess you and jon thought it had enough power. Dallas , you can send me an e mail . (see profile)  The first thing on the agenda is getting the bus home and selling the Allegro bus RV I now have. Guess I will put it on ebay or consign to a local lot at home. Of course I got to get it home too as I have been Yuma all winter from Nov 1. 1200 miles home over the high desert of nevada. I will be leaving on 2-22 and shud make it by 2-24. During the trip I run out of cell service through most of nevada and of course when I take down the starband dish I won't have internet till I set it up at home.  I have 40 foot garage at home so will have to add a couple of feet to get that bus in plusd it  holds a couple of other vehicles too. I also have a shop with one garage bay on my 2.5 acres in the desrt of Oregon.    Jerry

Jerry,

I was looking on the video and the right front was a 22.5, --it was hard to tell on the other tires while we were doing those 8o ft donuts ;D :D

Email me your mailing adress and i'll stick the video on a cd and send it.

Maybe you could drive the allegro out and lonnie could consign it or there's also the nations largest RV auction down the street from him.

Gotta run

I think the airline ticket would be cheaper than the fuel to get the MH there. The cost of fuel to get the MCI home is gonna be big too at I guess 6 mpg. May have to take out a bigger morgtage on my place.

Jerry

My guess would be about $2K for fuel to Oregon.  An 8V92 that is driven with a heavy foot can get down into the 4 MPG range.  It may see 6 MPG if driven conservatively.    Screaming up those hills has its costs.  ;) 
Jon or Kyle, where is the bus located relative to the Beemer plant and I-85?  I googled the address and came up with a location north of Greer?  Sat image shows a farmhouse on the site?? 
I may have used an incorrect address.   
See everyone tomorrow...plan to pick up Uncle Ned about 10 and we'll be right down.  Not that far to drive.    JR

Well, Guys, it doesn't look like I'm gonna make it.

The manager and Cat got into an argument the other night and he's threatening to have the bus towed. I need to stay here and shoot the old coarse type file if he tries it.

Dammm, I love stress!

Dallas

Bummer  :(      Hope you get things worked out.   Sounds like time is near to get the old bus fired up and exercised.   
Highly unlikely that the campground will remain as it is once sold. 
New owners may be rather oddly abrasive too.
Best, JR 

JR,  coming south on 85  you'll want to take HWY 101 exit 60 on mapquest and turn left to go to the bus and turn right to go to BMW it'll be the next left and there is bus parking. 

to go to the bus, go back across the bridge and get and you'll pass the detroit dieselalison place on the left and keep going bout a mile or so then you'll see the RichardsRV on the left and RVforless will be the next place, you'll see the rv's. 

  If you see the 80 ft donut we left you've gone to far, but if they let you drive it then try it, it's a blast in someone elses bus. :D ;)  ok that's enuff teasing jerry, i'll stop ::)

Thanks for the info Jon.  I'll find it now.  I put the address into Google maps and it placed the bus up north of Greer.  Somehow that didn't seem quite right.  Glad it's not! 
Doubt that I'll drive the bus.  May start it.  Ya'll have already ruled out driving issues.  Just peek around and see what we see... ::)
Too bad Dallas won't be able to make the trip...he's a good Detroit dude.  I'll post my impressions tomorrow evening. 
Are we gonna see you tomorrow?  Gotta eat somewhere!
We'll be up there around 11 or 12. 
Thanks again, JR

What NewbeeMC9 said.

Jon, you need to stop stretching the truth. You weren't able to finish the donut! Besides, it looked to me it was going to be a 70 ft donut if that ditch hadn't stopped the bus so abruptly. They got it out this morning & I'll bet Jr won't be able to tell.
LOL

Well, had a very nice day for surveying a bus today.   
Jerry's bus has a lot of potential, I'd like to have it.   Gonna take a good bit of TLC to make nice, but as Kyle said, the sides are straight, no curbs in bay floors or doors.   Doesn't appear to be beat up...but the bus has been unloved for a while.  :'(
Going to need tires before I'd drive it....anywhere.  The previous owner apparently scrounged up whatever wheel and tire assemblies they could find to get what was probably good rubber off the bus. 
Biggest problem noted was major rust issue above the blower compartment.   That's gonna have to be fixed.   Big holes into the rear cap floor area.  May leak enough air to cause heating problems.
The rear cap will have to be removed and the steel that forms the lower floor and outer perimeter of the upper blower blower box will to be replaced.  Good time for an R&M cap (good time for some of them shiney "Budd-lite" or Alcoa wheels too).  Jerry lives right near R&M too.  No huge shipping costs! 
The HVAC filter door is open, don't know if the filter is still in place, but the door should be closed up before driving the bus.  Pull in battery gasses thru the heater from that compartment.  The underside of the bus, including the battery compartment is in good condition. 
The temp guage shows 150*...max.  May be missing thermostats, or guage or sender doesn't work...or all of the above.   
Tires, brakes, belt, general service, and it oughta make it back to the Left Coast without too much issue. 
No jakes or retarder.   
8V92TA MUI should be a rocket on the highway.   Trans is HT740.
Met up with Jon at the RV dealership and we had a great lunch!  :)
Jerry, I wish you success with your bus. 
Best, JR

BTW, Jon or Kyle, if one of ya'll are back over near the bus, would you look at the hubs and see what type lugs it has?   Flange nuts or acorns?  Or some combo of both.  Wondering if the bus has hub or stud piloted wheels.  If it has Budd style lugs on the drive axle it's a stud piloted wheel.  Jerry may want this info and I was derelict in not looking!   

The inside drive tires looked OK. I'll bet someone took alcoas off & put on junk to hold it off the ground.

That is a great point JR about the wheels, but I'd go one step further. I'd have a good tire service center look at it as the tire swapping dude may not have had the correct nuts & used whatever he had. He may also have put the wrong rims on too.

Sorry 'bout missing lunch . . .