At a flying J in peculiar Missouri and they had their big sign posted as $2.79 a gal for diesel cash price. I went in to pay and was told it was $3.09 a gal. I told them about the sign and they went and looked and honored the mistake price. Quite neighborly of them if you ask me. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180507/2e71bb722cd0c4d8aa22c372bbab2f2d.jpg)
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LOL I bet that sign is gone now,fuel is $2.87 around here now it is sad that Loves,TA,and Pilot control the price of fuel on the interstates.I don't buy nothing from Pilot that English owned outfit would have us paying 7 bucks a gal if they could get by with it
Quote from: luvrbus on May 07, 2018, 07:42:14 AMLOL I bet that sign is gone now,fuel is $2.87 around here now it is sad that Loves,TA,and Pilot control the price of fuel on the interstates.I don't buy nothing from Pilot that English owned outfit would have us paying 7 bucks a gal if they could get by with it
There have been big changes on the East Coast as well in the past few years. Anywhere there was a Flying J near, the prices for diesel were lower by a LOT. Then Jay Call died, Flying J got bought and then grabbed by Pilot. TA had been around for years but were stolid. So Loves swooped in and set up a lot of new truck stops to fill in anywhere that didn't have competition. So now there's no competition among the big players. Local stations have clued in to the fact that lots of their diesels sales are drivers spending Somebody Else's Money (a guy driving a company truck fills up and just takes the receipt to the boss) so price isn't a factor. Add that to the Saudis and Russians driving up crude prices up 60 - 70% in the past year and a half or so, and it doesn't take strong binoculars to see $4.00 again.
double - sorry.
Quote from: Oonrahnjay on May 07, 2018, 08:21:13 AM
double - sorry.
I thought our president said he was a deal maker.
Prescription drugs was first, then everything else.
I netted $90.00 on my tax return this year over last.
Thank-you Mr. President....
I still buy my fuel from a Call own family outfit here called Maverick their prices are cheaper than WalMart,lol yep 4 to 5 bucks a gal for fuel is not far off and the prices of buses are going to tank again
Quote from: eagle19952 on May 07, 2018, 08:31:28 AM
I thought our president said he was a deal maker.
Prescription drugs was first, then everything else.
I netted $90.00 on my tax return this year over last.
Thank-you Mr. President....
90 buck beats the hell out of paying $16,101.68 ??? ???
Watch the big vehicle sales go down.
i thought we are all big boys here, cost of gas is rounding error for busnuts. lol
y'all - don't gas up here http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=33035.msg375642#msg375642 (http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=33035.msg375642#msg375642)
put on your big boy pants and open the wallet - it's only going higher this summer.
Quote from: luvrbus on May 07, 2018, 08:36:58 AM
what...I thought we were all to pay less...:(
PS I didn't say I paid zero :) I paid $90.00 less than last year.
I pulled into a station once and diesel at the pump was going for 42 cents per gallon. Should have been over $4 a gallon at the time. No, I didn't fuel up first.
For how long do you think will diesel be available ? I'm 51 and it will be 3 to 4 years before i expect my ddec II bus conversion to be ready to hit the road... i would like to use it for at least 15 years... What's your view ?
It's supposed to run out in 14 years.
A long time.
Nothing comes close on portable energy content, and speed of replenishment into the vehicle.
The economy runs on diesel, it ain't going anywhere.
Continue building buses.
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
You guys diesel fuel is the cheap part of owning a friggn bus ::) ::)
Quote from: luvrbus on May 07, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
You guys diesel fuel is the cheap part of owning a friggn bus ::) ::)
You sure got that right.
When I hear someone is complaining about the cost of diesel - I wonder what maintenance items are being neglected due to cost.
Sure I enjoy low fuel prices, but I'm not gonna let the cost of diesel cancel a trip. I always factor in the fuel as part of the expenses & plan accordingly.
Diesel gone in 10 years!
https://www.tesla.com/semi (https://www.tesla.com/semi)
my son saw one last week. said the cab has driver in the center. check out the performance 0-60 in 20 sec with an 80k load. Won't be long and we'll be the 21st century rancher and his wagon. lol
Quote from: luvrbus on May 07, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
You guys diesel fuel is the cheap part of owning a friggn bus ::) ::)
Thank you for saying this. Sooo true.
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Quote from: windtrader on May 07, 2018, 06:52:39 PM
Diesel gone in 10 years!
https://www.tesla.com/semi (https://www.tesla.com/semi)
my son saw one last week. said the cab has driver in the center. check out the performance 0-60 in 20 sec with an 80k load. Won't be long and we'll be the 21st century rancher and his wagon. lol
At the rate that Tesla is blowing through cash, including LOTS of taxpayers' contributions, they may not be around for too long either. And good riddance to them.
John
I thought the deal with Flying J being bought by Pilot was the result of Flying J management making bad financial investments that lost them many millions of dollars, and they got desperate. The spread of Love's was related because of monopoly concerns by the feds that caused some locations to be sold off to them, at least this is what I remember reading in Trucker magazines when this started happening. I still have a Flying J card, and I miss their buffet restaurants. It was sad when they took them all out and turned them into Denny's. It looks like there is competition when you have a Pilot next to a Flying J, but not at all in reality.
Quote from: DoubleEagle on May 07, 2018, 08:35:32 PMI thought the deal with Flying J being bought by Pilot was the result of Flying J management making bad financial investments that lost them many millions of dollars, and they got desperate. ...
After Jay Call died, the company didn't do well then they got hit by the recession and high fuel prices about 2007 or 8 (I think, about then). That's when they got desperate and made unwise long-shot gambles.
(You're right about Love's, too.)
What killed F/J was the oil futures they committed to oil for a $140.00 a barrel and the price dropped to 1/2 his daughter has it turn around now. I doubt they ever enter the truck stop business again since it was the only assets they let go.I heard Buffet bailed Pilot/Fj last year they were about to go under
And Ford just announced they will build only 2 cars in the future, but will continue with all SUVs and trucks, talking about gambling with bad decisions...
They have realized that aging people find getting up out of a sedan is more painful/ uncomfortable than a suv where you can just slide out. Also smaller suv's are getting more fuel efficient. And most are available in awd for us that live in better part of the country.😉
better part of the country
yes we call it 4 real seasons
Dave
Quote from: sledhead on May 08, 2018, 01:56:52 PMbetter part of the country
yes we call it 4 real seasons
Dave
Hey, we have 4 real seasons in North Carolina; winter, the 19th of April, 8 1/2 months of heat and liquid air, and a week of autumn in October.
We go down there for a week every year in June or July. Summer really sucks down there.
Forget the stinking truck stops. gasbuddy.com is your best friend. What I do is find the cheapest station, then to google satellite and check out the ingress and egress to see if I can fit in without trouble. Probably a 20 cent a gallon price reduction over the truck stops. JMW
Quote from: Boomer on May 08, 2018, 08:21:24 PMForget the stinking truck stops. ...
Yep. Every vehicle (except my motorcycle) that I own is a diesel. Ten years ago, I'd compare the truckstops to local stations, sometimes one would beat the other and the next months, the situation would be reversed. Then things changed. Now, truck stops are up to $.40 higher than local stations.
Part of this situation right now is that truck stops put their prices up in advance of crude oil price increases while local stations lag and that lag always goes away, but as crude prices go up (and they're going to go up quickly now that the Russians and Chinese are going to buy all of Iran's oil), it's only going to keep getting worse.
And the anti-competitive situation is going to make it worse on "the little guy" -- the independent trucker, the small bus operating company, and us. I don't see truckstops being a good deal for us -- now or in the future.