I am a little confused on oil filters for the Series 60. Some seem to have bypass valves and some don't. I currently have Baldwin B495 filters on there that the shop installed. Is bypass valve or not an issue, or maybe the descriptions are just wrong?
I don't think the Baldwin B495 filters are an issue and I might just use those again.
If unsure, always revert to the options label on the valve cover. There should be a option number listed for oil filter. There may be more than one option listed if there are multiple types of filters used on your engine. Find that numer and refer to your detroit parts manual. If you dont have one then post the option numbers here.
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I would use Donaldson-who makes the filters for Detroit.
Interesting on Donaldson. I had seen something in my research about Donaldson filters coming apart, but it may have just been someone trying to sell their stuff.
Nothing wrong with the Baldwin,filters are like oil it's a personal preference
May have been a past thread on air filters
My real question is about bypass versus non-bypass filters. Is there a reason to run one over another?
http://www.baldwinfilter.com/ProductHighlights102011.html (http://www.baldwinfilter.com/ProductHighlights102011.html)
It sounds like full flow is the way to go. I'll probably just stick with Baldwin.
A bypass system is a safety system in the event the filter glogs the engine will still get oil.>>>Dan
Brian-Baldwins were coming apart when Detroit first brought out the DD engines with 50,000mi oil changes. NEVER problems with Donaldson. I assume Baldwin has rectified the problem by now. Good Luck, TomC
Quote from: TomC on April 06, 2018, 05:16:34 PM
Brian-Baldwins were coming apart when Detroit first brought out the DD engines with 50,000mi oil changes. NEVER problems with Donaldson. I assume Baldwin has rectified the problem by now. Good Luck, TomC
Those were canister type not the spin on filters weren't they
i had a Baldwin around 2014 split a vertical seam.
never again, oil filters only get one fail in my book.
Quote from: eagle19952 on April 06, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
i had a Baldwin around 2014 split a vertical seam.
never again, oil filters only get one fail in my book.
I have never saw a vertical seam on a Baldwin B495 filter that is the same filter as 8v92 uses
Quote from: luvrbus on April 07, 2018, 07:58:38 AM
I have never saw a vertical seam on a Baldwin B495 filter that is the same filter as 8v92 uses
me either. but. i know oil all over my toad/trailer when i see it...
maybe it wasn't a seam.
but it definitely had a split.
and it could have been a disaster.
So, no Baldwin for me.
Wix or Donaldson.
You makes your choices and takes your chances.
DD engines use canister type filters. Most newer engines are going back to canister type-which are better designed than the old Detroit types. Good Luck, TomC
We called them socks or spin-on's.
If I didn't buy every oil filter that someone said they had a problem with there would nothing left to buy. Oil filters are something that should never fail as they can cause an expensive engine failure, but nothing made by man is infallible.
Quote from: belfert on April 07, 2018, 02:59:54 PM
If I didn't buy every oil filter that someone said they had a problem with there would nothing left to buy. Oil filters are something that should never fail as they can cause an expensive engine failure, but nothing made by man is infallible.
True I just haven't had a failure with WIX or Donaldson :)
This was supposed to be about bypass vs full flow filters not about specific brands, but I have another question. Is there any advantage to buy the better grade of oil filters like the Donaldson Blue if not doing extended drain intervals? I change my oil yearly. Most years I will do around 4,500 miles, but some years up to 9,000 miles.
I tried the forums over at bobistheoilguy.com, but those guys are way overboard on their oil filters. They way over analyze things and are concerned about things that really don't matter in the overall scheme of things. One guy puts some sort of cleaner in his engine at every oil change and then drains that 250 miles later and puts new oil in. Most engines will last many years on the cheapest oil and filter as long as the oil is changed on schedule. The engines that fail due to oil issues almost always didn't have the oil changed. (My brother bought a car with 60,000 miles and the engine died at 65,000 miles. Oil had never been changed based on sludge in engine.)
On my Eagle with the ISM Cummins I ran the Fleetguard or Baldwin LF9000 combination full flow/bypass oil filter. Cummins approved a 25,000 mile oil change with this filter, (approved for motorhome application). I could never bring myself to run it that far though, always changed at 12,000. That was an expensive filter, at over 40.00. Don't know if anyone markets the combi filter for S60. I don't think you can go wrong with the Detroit Diesel branded filter.
Quote from: belfert on April 06, 2018, 09:55:28 AM
I am a little confused on oil filters for the Series 60. Some seem to have bypass valves and some don't. I currently have Baldwin B495 filters on there that the shop installed. Is bypass valve or not an issue, or maybe the descriptions are just wrong?
I don't think the Baldwin B495 filters are an issue and I might just use those again.
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This is about when and how oil system goes into bypassing the oil filter due to either volume (what nearly all systems do) or pressure (mostly gas engines) system is either built into engine or filter (bypass valve). Bypass filter system is an entirely different animal. The best good down to .10 micron. And are constantly low volume fed.
I ended up ordering the standard Donaldson oil filters from Ryder Fleet Supply. I could have sourced them locally, but it would have been $8 in gas and time to get them.
Quote from: belfert on April 10, 2018, 08:21:54 AM
I ended up ordering the standard Donaldson oil filters from Ryder Fleet Supply. I could have sourced them locally, but it would have been $8 in gas and time to get them.
I ordered a pair of fleetguards online last week. Delivered to my mailbox for under $20.
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