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Title: Semi automatic transmission
Post by: richard5933 on March 16, 2018, 11:01:07 AM
Any of the buses in the US ever use something like this? Don't think I've ever seen one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE6p-KffdTo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE6p-KffdTo)
Title: Re: Semi automatic transmission
Post by: Oonrahnjay on March 16, 2018, 12:22:29 PM
Quote from: richard5933 on March 16, 2018, 11:01:07 AMAny of the buses in the US ever use something like this? Don't think I've ever seen one.  ... 

     I've seen one.  In fact,  I own one!
Title: Re: Semi automatic transmission
Post by: HB of CJ on March 16, 2018, 06:54:59 PM
In about 1970 I got to test drive a demo Crown Supercoach school bus which had an air shift shifter on the dash.  Short lever.  Still had a clutch pedal.  The transmission was air shifted.  Did not work so well.  Much clashing and noise until one got the hang of it.  :(
Title: Re: Semi automatic transmission
Post by: Iceni John on March 16, 2018, 08:09:56 PM
Semi-auto gearboxes were the most common bus transmission at one time in England.   Leyland and Bristol used them on most of their buses  -  here's a preserved Leyland Leopard being shifted correctly:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKKKgjzKcsw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKKKgjzKcsw)   The shifters were either air-operated or electro-pneumatic, making the distinctive hiss during every shift.   It's a pity they never caught on in this country:  they seem to me to be ideally suited for buses.   I have fond memories of Leyland Tigers and Bristol REs being hustled along narrow country roads with the driver expertly shifting to keep the engine in its sweet spot.

John
Title: Re: Semi automatic transmission
Post by: mikke60 on March 17, 2018, 04:40:21 AM
seems to shift it as if you would an older truck without a syncro tranny. using the engine rpm,s to allow for smoother up shifts as well as downshifting.
Title: Re: Semi automatic transmission
Post by: chessie4905 on March 17, 2018, 06:08:17 AM
Eaton makes semi-automatic transmissions and automat versions. Someone on here had one a while back. Don't know if he's on here anymore.
Title: Re: Semi automatic transmission
Post by: CrabbyMilton on March 17, 2018, 02:52:39 PM
Then people wonder why at least over here ALLISON is king.
More trouble than it's worth with those clutchless manuals.
Title: Re: Semi automatic transmission
Post by: TomC on March 17, 2018, 08:12:42 PM
There are two types of transmissions in buses and trucks. Fully automatic like the Allison (3000, 4000, TC-10), and the fully automatic autoshift type. Second is full manual transmissions. Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Semi automatic transmission
Post by: Brian Diehl on March 19, 2018, 08:31:58 PM
I'm running an Eaton Autoshift transmission behind my Cummims ISM.  My tranny is the version where you have to use the clutch to get rolling, but once rolling all shifts up and down are automatic and do not use the clutch.  I find it to be perfectly adequate.