I should probably get all my 8v92 oil leaks fixed eventually, I mean when your toad leaves drip marks on the pavement when you park....took me an hour and two cans of engine degreaser to clean out the trucks intercooler fins and radiator fins from all the oil residue.
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You need to fix your leaks.
JC
Abenormal.
Not to worry. I was told several years ago when I lived in the Northeast that every drop of oil (and tranny fluid) you take out of your car should be put back in the body and rocker panels to prevent them from rusting. I religiously took my vehicles to the undercoating guy every fall to have him spray used oil all underneath my car and I swear it helped. So if you have a bit of an engine/tranny oil leak, take advantage of it and let is splash on your car and you will see how much longer your car lasts. Not only that but all of your bolts and screws will come out much easier the next time you need to repair something. :D
Check it out here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaEaNsJXIUY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaEaNsJXIUY)
we oil spray all of our vehicles every year BUT use the right NEW oil spray stuff . it is a pain in the a$$ but makes a huge difference . they like to use salt and now liquid brine on the roads yuk !!
the leaks can be fixed . 1st year out with the wrong oil in the 6v92ta 15 w 40 truck oil ( dumb truck mechanic ) used that on everything . we oilsprayed the nissan so bad it took 4 times with windex just to clean the windows . but after full out of frame rebuild and the right oil 40 w " voila " no more oil leaks
kind of like the light at the end of the tunnel
dave
Lol. Dave I use straight 50 in the summer. I still have a wet toad. I detailed my engine compartment earlier this summer and realized every hose, gasket, and joint is leaking oil. Ugh
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What happened to the Toyota?
I'm guessing it didn't rust away lol
Quote from: Dreadnought on November 28, 2017, 06:07:16 AM
What happened to the Toyota?
I'm guessing it didn't rust away lol
No it "slipped away" ::)
;D BK ;D
He traded it in to a slimy salesman ;)
I couldn't live with oil leaks like that, that is over the top. And all the oil the toad misses, the cars behind collect.
So how long did you have to tow the salesman before he became slimy? ;D
That's one slimy toad
That's why you always buy a toad that is a cross between the color of road dirt and dirty 40wt! ;) :D
Steve
Scott, is oil blowing out of the dreaded check valve tubes?
Where are you keeping the oil level on the dipstick? My DD 71 didn't like to be filled above the halfway point between low and full.
Scott,
Do you mind sending me a message on how you post pictures on here? Do you use your phone and an app? I'm on the desktop and I see an icon "insert image" but I don't know how it works
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^^^ That's what it looks like when I click that icon
I post pictures by going to the bottom of the new post (before I post it) and clicking on "additional options", click on "browse", find my picture file and double click on it, and done. I think it only works if the pictures are under 196K.
Brian
Quote from: bevans6 on November 29, 2017, 09:48:09 AM
I post pictures by going to the bottom of the new post (before I post it) and clicking on "additional options", click on "browse", find my picture file and double click on it, and done. I think it only works if the pictures are under 196K.
Brian
Thanks Bevans!! I never noticed "additional options" before. Yea that should work perfectly. I've been wanting to post pics of my bus and couldn't figure it out!!
Running almost against the governor for miles will also contribute to that. Walker Airsep will stop that.
Quote from: chessie4905 on November 30, 2017, 03:31:05 AM
Running almost against the governor for miles will also contribute to that. Walker Airsep will stop that.
He probably has a lot of silicone in place of gaskets causing most if that,I hate that stuff no matter what color it is ,I had to remove a blower yesterday to replace a owners silicone mess .A $2.25 gasket cost him a little over 500 bucks sad part was a shop did the work
Why would running against the governor make an engine leak more? Compared to say 1800 rpm. Is it a matter of crankcase pressure, or something else?
JC
Chess, I don't run against the governor for miles. Usually I'm running 1500-1600 rpm. Anyway, Toyota had 300,000 miles on her and was 20 years old. Time to get something new. I detailed it all in another thread somewhere here (can't remember where). No the oil isn't coming from the check valves. I have a catch can and empty that every so often. I only ever get a cup of oil out of that. It's just coming from everywhere. Power steering, hoses, valve covers, oil pan gasket.
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If that is a true DDEC 8v92 block it has a special silicone oil pan gasket with special bolts to keep from over tightening. I never saw those leak unless somebody used the wrong bolts and destroyed the gasket,lol that pan gasket cost a 100 bucks from Detroit the valve covers use the silicone gasket with bottoming bolts to keep it from squeezing to far down also
Glad your gearing allows for nice cruise. Those cooling fans can blow any leaks into a mist over miles and even small ones can be a nuisance. Some use those brooms across the rear bumper to lessen this, especially on the 71 series which seem to leak more than the 92 series. Probably better rings, special gaskets help a lot.
20 years old and time to get something new? Of my 3 vehicles the "newest" is 25, soon to be 26 years old. ;D
Gee, my newest 4X4 is 45 years old, but I did sell off my oldest that is 58 years old (Land Rover Series). I suppose most people want A/C, and that won't last so long.
You guys would like these new vehicles. You don't need a crank to get them started anymore.lol
Or a whip...
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Or a chisel ...
Yah, but i don't have payments, bought them used and paid cash. And the most i have ever paid for one was $13,000....not counting the bus. :)
and no computers to replace and then here .... well if its not that so lets try this ? at your cost
dave
Who said anything about payments? As for the computers, I have always been kind of anti-computer when it comes to cars even though I'm a veteran IT network consultant and know my way around computers. That being said, every vehicle after 1996 has electronics. Most before that do too. And many are reliable as heck. My 1998 Land Cruiser had several on board computers one just to control locks, interior lights and power seats (body control module). 300,000 miles, 20 years of life and never once had any problems whatsoever with the electronics. Don't be scared of them. Embrace them. It's because of electronics that I went from a 13 mpg V8 with 265 horsepower to a 22 mpg V6 with 365 horsepower.
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Quote from: Scott & Heather on November 27, 2017, 06:05:44 PM
. . . took me an hour and two cans of engine degreaser to clean out the trucks intercooler fins and radiator fins from all the oil residue.
Scott -I've found that blue Dawn dishwashing liquid works just as well as engine degreaser most of the time, and is much less expensive. Especially if you give it a few minutes to work it's magic.
I buy the gallon jugs of Dawn at Costco or Sam's Club, keep one at home and one on board. I have a 5-gallon pail that I use to wash the car & bus, with two squirts of soap from the jug in the pail as the recipe. Cuts thru all the crud on the coach and car easily.
When home, I put Dawn in the pressure washer's soap tank, then use the low pressure setting to drench the coach's cold engine in the soapy mix. I let that sit, doing its thing, while I wash the coach normally with the brush, starting at the front and working to the rear on each side. When I get to the rear, I then hit the engine with the high pressure nozzle from the pressure washer, and finish up by washing the rear of the coach. So far it's been a routine that works well for me.
FWIW & HTH. . .
;)
Quote from: chessie4905 on November 30, 2017, 05:01:03 PM
You guys would like these new vehicles. You don't need a crank to get them started anymore.lol
Well, with the Series Land Rovers, they have a hand crank clipped behind the front seats to turn the engine in case the battery is low. How many "new" vehicles can say that? You also can remove the transmission and clutch from inside the vehicle if the weather is inclement. The list of advantages goes on and on. There is even one part on Series Land Rovers that is also used on Eagle Coaches. If anyone out there knows the answer to that, I will give you one. ;)
Apparently they don't have much faith in their starters.
Quote from: DoubleEagle on December 01, 2017, 02:18:24 PM
Well, with the Series Land Rovers, they have a hand crank clipped behind the front seats to turn the engine in case the battery is low. How many "new" vehicles can say that? You also can remove the transmission and clutch from inside the vehicle if the weather is inclement. The list of advantages goes on and on. There is even one part on Series Land Rovers that is also used on Eagle Coaches. If anyone out there knows the answer to that, I will give you one. ;)
Okay, you can give me batteries, radiators, belts, filters, the entire engine, wiring, transmission, and so on. Or you can be more specific. And if the Series Land Rover engine can be started with a hand crank, it can't have much horsepower; like less than 20?
Quote from: lostagain on November 30, 2017, 07:11:13 AM
Why would running against the governor make an engine leak more? Compared to say 1800 rpm. Is it a matter of crankcase pressure, or something else?
JC
How did we get here?
Geoff, it's thread drift again.
Quote from: Geoff on December 01, 2017, 04:57:15 PM
Okay, you can give me batteries, radiators, belts, filters, the entire engine, wiring, transmission, and so on. Or you can be more specific. And if the Series Land Rover engine can be started with a hand crank, it can't have much horsepower; like less than 20?
It's none of of those things, and only a person who has worked on Eagle's and Land Rovers would know. To be exact, the Series Land Rover 2.25L has 73 hp, and it has a crank connection on the front with a shaped hole in the bumper to put the crank handle in. Thread drift's can be educational. ;)
I never worked on a Land Rover but have Eagle so tell me a switch ?
Same nut behind the wheel?
Walter, we are forum friends and I intend to stay that way with you, but I just can't be on the same page when it comes to rovers vs land cruisers. Land Cruisers have a proven reliability record. Land Rovers have the opposite. They are equally capable off road without a doubt, but they are just not quite up to the reliability standard I hope for.
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Quote from: Scott & Heather on December 02, 2017, 02:26:54 PM
Walter, we are forum friends and I intend to stay that way with you, but I just can't be on the same page when it comes to rovers vs land cruisers. Land Cruisers have a proven reliability record. Land Rovers have the opposite. They are equally capable off road without a doubt, but they are just not quite up to the reliability standard I hope for.
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That is true for the newer Land Rovers, but not so much for the older Series Land Rovers from 1948-1985. As soon as the brand was no longer built for the Queen, the quality went down. I have towed my 1972 Series III all over the US with lock-out hubs on all four wheels with no problems other than a mysterious oil coating on the front end. Granted, I have no A/C, no power steering, no power brakes, but I have a unique lovable dependable vehicle with a lot of patina, that can go where other 4X4's won't fit. I'm sure Toyota eye-balled the Land Rover when Land Cruisers were designed, and the Toyota's are a great vehicle. The current Discoveries and Range Rovers are super plush and complicated, but they are prone to a lot of problems. I've had occasions where I have towed them out with my old one; nothing is more satisfying. :D
Quote from: luvrbus on December 02, 2017, 09:47:02 AM
I never worked on a Land Rover but have Eagle so tell me a switch ?
Cliff, you are surely a person that deserves to know this secret, but I have held on to this nugget for over twenty years, and I use it at Land Rover Rally's as a stumper trivia question that no one has ever solved. Suffice it to say that it is a part that is unobtainable as a new part for those that are restoring old Land Rovers, and used ones are usually rusted out, but there are many of them on an original 01, 05, and maybe 10's. So, this part benefits a Land Rover owner primarily, but many Eagle owners did not know they had a sought after part when they started their conversion. If I could only find a Land Rover nut that needs a few and has a Kent-Moore J22582 Detroit Barring Tool to trade. ;D
I always wanted a Land Rover from the 60 or 70's I owned a 2000 Range Rover I bought new it was a piece of junk with the Buick engine
Quote from: luvrbus on December 02, 2017, 05:51:59 PM
I always wanted a Land Rover from the 60 or 70's I owned a 2000 Range Rover I bought new it was a piece of junk with the Buick engine
Yes, it had problems. If I remember correctly, that aluminum V-6 was passed to American Motors, and they in turn sold it to the English. It was a hot potato that no one wanted to hold on to. The old Series Rovers are the ones you see in ads and movies when they want a African Safari backdrop. They don't show the newer ones. They made a million of the Series Rovers, most of them are located in Australia, Canada, Europe, and Africa. There are only a few thousand on the road in the US.
Quote from: DoubleEagle on December 02, 2017, 08:58:35 AM
It's none of of those things, and only a person who has worked on Eagle's and Land Rovers would know. To be exact, the Series Land Rover 2.25L has 73 hp, and it has a crank connection on the front with a shaped hole in the bumper to put the crank handle in. Thread drift's can be educational. ;)
So, the Eagles had a "shaped hole in the bumper to put the crank handle in"? I'm trying to get through this, but if you are titillating with a personal joke that would only cause people to walk away shaking their heads when they hear your answer to the riddle I'm afraid you lost your audience.
I think I have it the square headed bolts that hold the center bumper blade in place on a Eagle
Quote from: Geoff on December 02, 2017, 06:11:16 PM
So, the Eagles had a "shaped hole in the bumper to put the crank handle in"? I'm trying to get through this, but if you are titillating with a personal joke that would only cause people to walk away shaking their heads when they hear your answer to the riddle I'm afraid you lost your audience.
It's the Land Rover Series vehicles that have a hand crank guide hole in the front bumper.
Quote from: luvrbus on December 02, 2017, 06:25:01 PM
I think I have it the square headed bolts that hold the center bumper blade in place on a Eagle
Nope. This is going to drive you crazy, and I'll be responsible for destroying the most valuable mind on this board. Oh crap, but here are some pictures of my real Land Rover in Colorado.
I sure would like a hand crank on my Series 60. She doesn't always want to crank over if the batteries are a bit weak. ;D
Yeah and since you are strong enough to use it, put a socket on the end and also use it to remove lug nuts. ;D ;D
Thee best degreaser I've ever used is "Oil Eater". Biodegradable, I use it for everything, from cleaning parts to spot cleaning my carpets to getting grease out of close. Nothing better as I've discovered with 40 years in trucking. Good Luck, TomC
Quote from: TomC on December 03, 2017, 08:09:57 AM
"Oil Eater".
Citrus solvent, full strength it will dissolve synthetics and natural fibers.
they used it to clean crude oil from 48" pipeline hole-saws.
and stopple valves at pump station bypasses.
without ever shutting down the line.
conventional solvents wouldn't do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMIi5wIuSu8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMIi5wIuSu8)
kind of neat to watch :)
Ok that's a vintage Land Rover. Those were beasts. But as you already know there aren't a ton of parts available any more. But yeah those were tanks!
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Quote from: Scott & Heather on December 03, 2017, 01:40:57 PM
Ok that's a vintage Land Rover. Those were beasts. But as you already know there aren't a ton of parts available any more. But yeah those were tanks!
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That's not the case, all of the key parts are available for Series Rovers. Check out Rovers North in Vermont, for instance.
Oh ok you have a parts source. I was thinking auto parts stores if you're out driving and break down and need a part within a day. But i didn't know that older rovers had a parts source. Cool. I'd be thrilled to go trail riding with you!
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Lake George? ;D
Quote from: Scott & Heather on December 04, 2017, 08:38:02 AM
Oh ok you have a parts source. I was thinking auto parts stores if you're out driving and break down and need a part within a day. But i didn't know that older rovers had a parts source. Cool. I'd be thrilled to go trail riding with you!
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Scott, you can't get a part the same day, but the next day or more. Back in the nineties I was out in Moab, Utah (which is sort of a 4X4 Mecca) and a tooth broke off the rear differential and locked it up. It was close to a hundred degrees and I had the whole family there (wife & four kids) We were out in Canyonlands National Park about fifteen miles away from anything. I disconnected the rear drive shaft, and drove out with just the front axle. When I got back to the campground I immediately called Rovers North and asked for a rebuilt differential. I had a choice of overnight or two day for quickness, and for cost's sake I choose UPS Blue Label for two day service. It came as promised, and I installed it at the campsite while a French family had dinner next to us in the next site. I don't know much French but I think they were upset about the smell of gear oil interfering with their enjoyment of wine. It was a straightforward repair, the axles are pulled, and the whole pumpkin bolts on. Every critical part is still available because, worldwide, there are many thousands of these old Rovers around.
My Rover has been everywhere between Maine and Utah, the three pictures I posted were taken in Colorado (in August) up above 12,000 feet on the Continental Divide near Old Carson. If we ever cross paths, you would be welcome to ride along.
That, my friend, is the kind of story material that legends are made of. Loved reading every word of it. You have my respect, (even if you do drive a rover ;). I busted the my front diff in Michigan in heavy snow after gaining immediate traction when tires were spinning. Put an ARB air locker and carrier in after that and never had a problem. Mine was triple locked and could go literally anywhere.
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