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Title: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: Jeff Willard on August 19, 2017, 09:50:36 AM
For all of you making the trip to Evansville, I have an offer for you. I've made a deal with my local Chevron distributor here in Arizona on a skid load of Delo 100 40wt at $18.60/Gallon. While it might not be the absolute BEST deal you've ever seen, it's delivered and no tax.  Besides, if you're driving your coach to Evansville, you'll need a gallon or so when you get there anyway.
I'm going to load up my coach with as many cases of Delo 100 as i can fit in a Scenicruiser and the toad, and then haul it to Evansville for anyone that wants to pre-order it here. We have about a 10 day window for the orders to be placed because they only order a couple of times a month. The distributor will get it in (because, of course.... they don't stock it) and I'll then have time to pick it up and load the coach. We're leaving Arizona on the 16th.

The Link below will take you to the PayPal site where you can order the quantity you want and pay for your order. You DO NOT have to have a PayPal account to use this. You can log in as a guest and just use your credit card.

https://paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=YBR9B22XU4K82 (https://paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=YBR9B22XU4K82)

The wife's gonna kill me when she find's the entire coach packed with oil.
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: Utahclaimjumper on August 19, 2017, 11:10:01 AM
  If you load that coach with oil,,and she can't find her favorite soap or or other "female" things,, you deserve to be killed..>>>Dan  (You might even starve to death)
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: Scott & Heather on August 20, 2017, 09:19:41 PM
I get a gallon of delvac 40wt for $12 at wwilliams in Grand Rapids. I load up when I'm there. Good oil, excellent price.


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Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: Jeff Willard on August 21, 2017, 08:50:55 AM
I've never seen Delo 100 for that kind of price. WW Williams here in Tucson doesn't even stock it, "We can order it for you". The local Fleet Pride dealer doesn't stock it either.
If you can get it for that price, and actually get it.... go for it, and perhaps you can load your coach up with oil for Evansville. :)

p.s. After I posted this it just bugged me. So.... I called WW Williams in Grand Rapids. According to Gerard, the parts guy, They stock Delvec 40wt at..... wait for it..... $18.43/gallon. If you're generator customer with a maintenance contract "maybe" you'll get it for $15.05 but..... that's actually at a loss with the hope they'll find more "issues" that are billable.

So Scott, you might want to check again and make sure Guido at the loading dock is still working there.... and go stock up. :)
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: eagle19952 on August 21, 2017, 01:56:51 PM
repeat walkins .... Guido holds the door open.. ;D
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: Scott & Heather on August 22, 2017, 07:01:57 PM
Shoot. It's gone up. I bought several gallons there about three years ago and it was $12.45 a gallon. I have the receipt somewhere filed away. Still $18.40 ain't bad. 20cents cheaper than Evansville lol


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Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: Jeff Willard on August 22, 2017, 09:09:43 PM
And no sales tax and free delivery. 😀😀😀
You've got till the end of the week before I have to commit to a quantity. Just click the link in my original post
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: trucktramp on August 22, 2017, 09:32:32 PM
I can confirm the Grand Rapids W Williams price.  I bought 3 cases of 40 wt Delvac for 18 and change per gallon.  No groceries for a while but I have oil.   ;D
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: Scott & Heather on August 22, 2017, 09:34:17 PM
Lol. I'll pass but you did get a good price.


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Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: luvrbus on August 23, 2017, 04:24:09 AM
When WW Williams rotates their stock here in Phoenix they do have some good buys on antifreeze and the Delvac 1240.
You can order the Delvac 1240 from Walmart on line (104056)for $17.96 a gal but the shipping kills the deal.There is no excuse for 40w costing $5.00 a gal more than 15/40 C rated oil   
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: dtcerrato on August 23, 2017, 07:43:15 AM
I have to ask a question here... and I am in No way trying to undermine Jeff's efforts to help fellow bus nuts. What dictates a good quality of petroleum lubricant besides big name brand? There are oils out there that are domestically manufactured in the US & Canada that cost almost half of the going prices from companies like Chevron or Shell. These companies have been around since the mid 30s and are endorsed by the American Petroleum Institute. There are some reviews that are surfacing with excellent oil analysis results of these generic oils used in Detroit two strokes of CF2 spec. I have personally ran generics in Canada & US in our bus (at the time more through necessity than choice) and tend to wonder why it seems like voodoo sometimes on the bus forums to use these "generics". We're talking as low as at times $9.40/ gal by the one gal pail. Is it just the inability for us to "change without confidence" or is there concrete information that makes these oils "less" advantageous for us to run? just saying (& really wondering) in my years of fixed income with a bargain... The two companies I am referring to are: Miles Lubricants out of Farmingdale NY since 1937 (available on line) and Nemco Lubricants & Chemicals out of Winnipeg Canada available at Canadian Walmart's.
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: jdpilot on August 23, 2017, 07:47:06 AM
Oriley's has Rotella 40w on sale for 13.99 per gallon limit 12   https://oreillyauto.com/detail/shell-rotella-4919/oil-16865/motor-oil---conventional-16605/conventional---40w-17708/heavy-duty-motor-oil/t401/4712270?q=40w# (https://oreillyauto.com/detail/shell-rotella-4919/oil-16865/motor-oil---conventional-16605/conventional---40w-17708/heavy-duty-motor-oil/t401/4712270?q=40w#)


Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: lostagain on August 23, 2017, 07:53:33 AM
I've been using the Super Tech brand in 5 gal pails from Canadian Walmarts for years. It is good oil. About half as much as the big name brands.

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/tune-it-diesel-engine-oil/6000111967709 (https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/tune-it-diesel-engine-oil/6000111967709)

JC
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: lostagain on August 23, 2017, 07:56:20 AM
I always wandered who made this oil for WM. Dan you are saying Nemco from Winnipeg makes it?

JC
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: luvrbus on August 23, 2017, 08:00:17 AM
Warren is the Walmart supplier of oil in the USA I don't know about Canada.The suppliers list on DD approved oils are the only ones that have been tested and approved, the rating by others really don't mean much like the Amsol 15/40 meets the DD specs for 2 strokes but they rate it that way anyways and people buy it 
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: dtcerrato on August 23, 2017, 08:20:41 AM
Nemco & Tune it are both Canadian oils but I cant say that Nemco is the supplier of the Tune it oil sold at Walmart. Sorry if my text was misleading. Does anyone know if the tune it oil on the Canadian Walmart website can be ordered for delivery in the US? No one mentioned the Miles Lubricant - Personally I see the Miles lubricant (US Domestic) in direct competition with the Tune it oil sold at Canadian Walmarts - at least on the pricing, it wavers between $47 to $57 per 5 gal pail. The reviews I was referring to including the two stroke oil analysis was of the Miles lubricant on the Amazon website.
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: luvrbus on August 23, 2017, 08:29:12 AM
You guys ever notice that some 40 w oils are CF2/CF4 rated now
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: dtcerrato on August 23, 2017, 05:01:24 PM
I have & of those oils some mono weights are approved for Detroit diesel 2 stroke right in their literature. The hard hunt for the very familiar big boy brands (Chevron, Shell, Texaco, etc.) Is Overkill but we understand piece of mind. Since retirement I can really pinch a nickel... & I don't believe my Detroit cares!
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: jhufford on August 23, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
Here's a link for oil, its the oil I use.   ;)

http://www.mtu-online.com/mtu/parts-service/detroit-diesel-2-cycle/parts/maintenance-products/power-guard-oil/ (http://www.mtu-online.com/mtu/parts-service/detroit-diesel-2-cycle/parts/maintenance-products/power-guard-oil/)
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: luvrbus on August 23, 2017, 07:46:47 PM
Quote from: jhufford on August 23, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
Here's a link for oil, its the oil I use.   ;)

http://www.mtu-online.com/mtu/parts-service/detroit-diesel-2-cycle/parts/maintenance-products/power-guard-oil/ (http://www.mtu-online.com/mtu/parts-service/detroit-diesel-2-cycle/parts/maintenance-products/power-guard-oil/)

Good choice Jim that is Delvac 1240,has anyone here ever done a consumption comparison using different oils ? 
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: lostagain on August 24, 2017, 06:32:07 AM
My 6V92 doesn't hardly use any oil, be it with Super Tech Tune It, or Shell Rotella T, or Chevron that I have picked up on the road.

JC
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: Jeff Willard on August 24, 2017, 03:57:59 PM
I've been traveling a lot the past few days and haven't had much keyboard time to reply to any of the comments.

Here's my take on some of this, for what it's worth......

As for costs, deals and why is straight weight $5.00/gal more. I suspect that it's because they only make it a time or two per year. If it's close to production time, and there's a warehouse full of it, you'll get some smokin' deals. If not, you pay up. The extra $5/gal isn't the cost of the oil, it's the cost of storing it until the next production run. Multi-weight is cheaper because that's what the refinery is constantly making, until it shuts down to run a batch of straight weight for the bus and boat guys.

Generic/off brand oils. We could have this conversation over any number of products. I use some generic stuff. Sugar, flour, paper towels and a few other "commodities". When you're buying a lot of something and it doesn't contain some "secret sauce" nobody else has, sure... save a nickle. But....... I won't use generic Ketchup (Heinz Only) Mayonnaise (Hellmann's/Best Foods) coffee (Folgers Black Silk thank you very much) and especially...... you know it's coming....... toilet paper (Charmin, regardless if Mr. Whipple was a pedofile)
As for oil, I just get a warmer fuzzier feeling using Delo 100. Now, that warm fuzzy might be less warm if I was driving the wheels off my coach and changing the oil every couple of week. But for the amount I drive it and how often I change or add oil to it, a few bucks a gallon doesn't matter much. I also like having a big company behind it so that if I have a failure that could be tracked back to "bad oil" I'd have some chance at recourse. If you're getting 5 gallon pails of Slippery Pete's Diesel Oil from Uncle Joe's refinery and Rood Beer Distillery you might have less success. 
It's interesting that I've never seen a big discussion about different brands of fuel. Nobody ever talks about that, but it's pretty important. We all just go for the cheap, regardless of brand. The only thing that steers me away from cheap fuel is if someone says they got water or crap in a load of fuel.

One more day on this deal for Delo 100. Then I have to call the distributor and commit to how many cases I need. Let me know.
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: Dave5Cs on August 25, 2017, 07:26:10 AM
Jeff are you bringing fuel for us all too, And the wife wants to know if you are bringing new rope for some? :D Just wondering ;D
Title: Re: Strike Oil in Evansville
Post by: luvrbus on August 26, 2017, 06:39:59 AM
I was in Walmart yesterday looking for cheap oil just to flush out a old Cummins NH 250 military engine that hasn't been run in 15 years.Everyone is so concerned about the CF-2 rating it just goes to show you don't bet the farm on the CF- 2 the Walmart brand Diesel SuperTech 15/40 had the CF-2 rating on the jug