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Title: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: Dwayne Johnston on July 17, 2017, 05:56:12 PM
Hi
As the title states, I am in need of some new wheel mouldings. Does any know a good source?
They look like this the attached picture

Thanks in advance
Dwayne

Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: chessie4905 on July 19, 2017, 03:02:41 AM
Check with Luke, they may be same as 4905. Also there is a site selling transit bus parts. Google for them.
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: Dwayne Johnston on July 19, 2017, 07:38:54 AM
Hi thanks for the info, I think I might have found the site

http://bus-service--inc.mybigcommerce.com/ (http://bus-service--inc.mybigcommerce.com/)

Who is Luke?  ;D

Here is a link to a parts picture I got from MCI years ago.
Sorry I can't upload it due to the very small 196 KB limit.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6CXVFbDo-2TOHExbnNtQVkxTUE/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6CXVFbDo-2TOHExbnNtQVkxTUE/view?usp=sharing)

It looks similar, but does anybody know the whether the actual dimensions are the same from the highway coaches to the transit busses?
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: Dwayne Johnston on August 13, 2017, 09:43:54 AM
Anybody?
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: buswarrior on August 14, 2017, 03:59:29 PM
The picture sure looks the same as the ones on the hundreds of 5307's I was familair with.

Call MCI parts, call Prevost parts, call Nova parts, ask around. Someone was selling 'em only a few short years ago, there's got to be some on a shelf, brand new...

Everyone carries everyone else's stuff, whatever it takes to make a buck, names don't mean much anymore, on many items.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: Runcutter on August 14, 2017, 05:57:50 PM
I was at a transit conference last week, and Midwest Bus Rebuilders (Owosso MI) came up in conversation about transit bus rehabs.  I know an old client had some fishbowls rehabbed there many years ago.  Might be worth a contact?

My memory is kind of dim, but looking at the picture -- is that a fishbowl or a "Classic"?  Even if it is, the parts may be the same.  Might want to clarify whether it's the anodized aluminum molding or the rubber skirt you need. 

Arthur
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: Geoff on August 14, 2017, 06:17:19 PM
Your current wheel moldings are not bad-- they are not broken.  All you need to do is take the outer flaring off and re-position the rubber and put new positioning bolts and put the flares back on.

--Geoff
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: j.m.jackson on August 14, 2017, 09:42:33 PM
The attached picture in the OP looks like they are broken at the top. Mine are the same way. Considering making some brackets with bolts and fender washers to hold them together if they are NLA. I like the look of my bus with the rubber trim a lot better that the ones that I have seen without them. Geoff, is there something I can do to move them up or around to get rid of the.broken part as you suggested above? I'll taken pictures this morning to confirm and attached them to this message.
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: Oonrahnjay on August 15, 2017, 09:15:41 AM
Quote from: j.m.jackson on August 14, 2017, 09:42:33 PM... Considering making some brackets with bolts and fender washers to hold them together if they are NLA. ... 

     Hey, J. M., just a WAIIG, but would the adhesive stuff that they sell for patching black "rubber" car bumpers hold the crack together and let you smooth it out for a nice look???
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: mike514 on August 15, 2017, 11:19:22 AM
Hi Dwayne,if you still looking for these I travel to Gatineau Qc,and Ottawa regularly and have them mykeasselin@gmail.com
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: j.m.jackson on August 15, 2017, 11:27:48 AM
I'm not sure how they attach. I'll know this evening, tho. I suspect that they are pinched between the body and the outer trim.

Pacer Performance may have something useful. I'll have to look tonight at attachment options on the bus.

Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: j.m.jackson on August 15, 2017, 11:45:37 AM
I just need to address front ones, the rears are covered by fenderskirts.

Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: Dwayne Johnston on August 21, 2017, 07:58:04 PM
Hi Guys
Thanks for all the input, real life got in my way and I didn't get a chance to log in for a while. Of course I was wondering why I didn't get any email notifications and realized that the contact email I had in my profile was for one I wasn't using anymore.
Anyway here is a picture of stuff that a buddy who works at a municipal bus garage says they use. I have not tried it as my rubbers are 3/4 torn and I am completely missing one.
Mike I will reach out to you.

Once again sorry for the delayed response.
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: dtcerrato on August 21, 2017, 11:27:53 PM
Never really cared for the "look" of bus wheel moldings until we did the FL to AK road trip last year - couldn't keep the bus clean longer than a couple hours on the roads up there! Never seen wheel moldings on a GM PD4104 and was wondering if they could be retrofitted to have them. It would be very advantageous to have some more protection from the elements being flung all over the side of the bus & the toad. Got plenty mud flaps but no outward (sideways) protection. Those fender skirts are interesting...
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: windtrader on August 22, 2017, 12:59:34 PM
Quote from: j.m.jackson on August 15, 2017, 11:27:48 AM
I'm not sure how they attach. I'll know this evening, tho. I suspect that they are pinched between the body and the outer trim.

Pacer Performance may have something useful. I'll have to look tonight at attachment options on the bus.


did you get more info on the Pacer products? They have a sample kit but was wondering best way to get more details and where to order.
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: richard5933 on August 22, 2017, 01:29:25 PM
I've been looking for these for my 4106 as well.

I did check with IBP Industries to see what they have which would work. They sent me a sample of their molding, which looks very similar to to photos of the Pacer product. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that these will work or look like they belong on the bus. Apparently it's more like what would be found on an Eagle.

On both the New Look and the 4106, the fender rubber seems to lay very flat - almost like it's on the same plane as the side of the bus. The IBP and Pacer products stick out from the side and look more like the lip on a four-wheeler (mud truck, that is) and not like the original.

I'm still considering using a brush kit from a spray suppression kit for the rear wheels on my bus. They won't be original, but they are flexible and I think that they could be mounted by sandwiching between the molding and the bus just like the original. My hope is that they would help keep the spray in the wheel well, and more importantly, they would visually fill the void between the aluminum of the bus and the rubber of the tires.

Just a suggestion for you. I don't know what your end goal is and if these will even work. Once I find a local source for them I'll be ordering a set and can post more information.

Richard
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: Bill Gerrie on August 23, 2017, 05:24:42 AM
Try Luke
1-888-262-2434
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: Dwayne Johnston on September 27, 2017, 06:30:08 AM
Quote from: Bill Gerrie on August 23, 2017, 05:24:42 AM
Try Luke
1-888-262-2434
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I thought I had a line on them but it isn't panning out.
I called US Coach at that number and they have no availability, anybody else?
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: Dwayne Johnston on September 27, 2017, 06:31:51 AM
Quote from: richard5933 on August 22, 2017, 01:29:25 PM
I've been looking for these for my 4106 as well.

I did check with IBP Industries to see what they have which would work. They sent me a sample of their molding, which looks very similar to to photos of the Pacer product. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that these will work or look like they belong on the bus. Apparently it's more like what would be found on an Eagle.

On both the New Look and the 4106, the fender rubber seems to lay very flat - almost like it's on the same plane as the side of the bus. The IBP and Pacer products stick out from the side and look more like the lip on a four-wheeler (mud truck, that is) and not like the original.

I'm still considering using a brush kit from a spray suppression kit for the rear wheels on my bus. They won't be original, but they are flexible and I think that they could be mounted by sandwiching between the molding and the bus just like the original. My hope is that they would help keep the spray in the wheel well, and more importantly, they would visually fill the void between the aluminum of the bus and the rubber of the tires.

Just a suggestion for you. I don't know what your end goal is and if these will even work. Once I find a local source for them I'll be ordering a set and can post more information.

Richard

That picture shows flat on the top. Mine is definitely more round. I did find a set that looked like that, they are on the newer articulated buses.
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: richard5933 on September 27, 2017, 07:06:34 AM
Dwayne: Don't be confused by the photo I posted showing the brush option - the top of that wheel opening is flat, but the brush material itself is flexible and can go around almost any shape opening. The molded rubber fenders on the GM buses needs to be the right shape, but it's my impression that the brush material is flexible. The unknown right now is whether the material will be able to be mounted using the existing aluminum trim, and if so will it look okay once in place. I personally don't like the look of the bus without the fenders, and I'm not keen on leaving the bus unprotected against flying debris from the wheels.

Since I have rubber fenders failing on my 4106, I'm probably going to give the brush option a try but not until Spring. Not enough time to get it done right now.

Richard
Title: Re: 1980's Canadian GM New Look Wheel Mouldings
Post by: Dwayne Johnston on September 27, 2017, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: richard5933 on September 27, 2017, 07:06:34 AM
Dwayne: Don't be confused by the photo I posted showing the brush option - the top of that wheel opening is flat, but the brush material itself is flexible and can go around almost any shape opening. The molded rubber fenders on the GM buses needs to be the right shape, but it's my impression that the brush material is flexible. The unknown right now is whether the material will be able to be mounted using the existing aluminum trim, and if so will it look okay once in place. I personally don't like the look of the bus without the fenders, and I'm not keen on leaving the bus unprotected against flying debris from the wheels.

Since I have rubber fenders failing on my 4106, I'm probably going to give the brush option a try but not until Spring. Not enough time to get it done right now.

Richard

Thanks for that info Richard!