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Title: Series 60/B500 in to early 90's Prevost, Newell
Post by: Timkar on May 12, 2017, 07:25:57 AM
Read with interest "Hard Headed Ken" post about the issues with putting a series 60/B500in to an early 90's Prevost XL. (tag axle issues) http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=12909.15 (http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=12909.15)
Does anyone know if the early 90's H340's have the same tag mounting issues as the XL's when trying to install 60/B500?
I've never been under an early 90's Newell and wondering if they have a same issue. I understand that Newell make their own frames but have never seen the configuration.  Newell started installing series 60's in 1994 but wondering if they changed frame/ suspension mounting to accomplish this?
TIA
Title: Re: Series 60/B500 in to early 90's Prevost, Newell
Post by: luvrbus on May 12, 2017, 07:34:28 AM
Early H-40 had the same problem unless it had the H-41 tag axle with the different offset they came with both style tag axles in 93 and 94.
Kent did a good job on the tag when he installed the Cummins in the Prevost Kenny Polk owns now have him send photos from F/B ,Newell it should not make a difference.Did you buy the H-40 ?  
Title: Re: Series 60/B500 in to early 90's Prevost, Newell
Post by: Timkar on May 12, 2017, 07:45:14 AM
Thanks Clifford. Still haven't bought anything else since the last of those 3 xl's left last week. LOL. I still have that 95 xl with rebuilt series 60/B500 with 3000 miles on it and am looking at various options. The H340 is a 1991 frame so guessing it will have same issues as the XL then.
Title: Re: Series 60/B500 in to early 90's Prevost, Newell
Post by: luvrbus on May 12, 2017, 07:59:41 AM
I know where a burned H-40 is that has the right tag I'll check and see if he still has the tag it had a 11.1 series 60 from the factory
Title: Re: Series 60/B500 in to early 90's Prevost, Newell
Post by: Timkar on May 12, 2017, 08:25:04 AM
The 95 XL I have has the right tag, but don't know if I want to do the work to put it in to the H3-40. The "boss" just wants to get up and go.
Engine change is not a big deal, but reconfiguring suspension may be for me.
Title: Re: Series 60/B500 in to early 90's Prevost, Newell
Post by: bigred on May 12, 2017, 11:52:35 AM
Guy's:Another stupid question :I have a 1993 Prevost chassis .Interestingly enough ,altho mine has the 8v92tadls engine ,the literature that came with this bus actually describes the  engine as a series 60 .Does this mean that a series 60 should replace the engine in mine without a lot of complications???   
Title: Re: Series 60/B500 in to early 90's Prevost, Newell
Post by: luvrbus on May 12, 2017, 12:06:51 PM
Maybe,maybe not Prevost used the tags and engines they had on hand at that time
Title: Re: Series 60/B500 in to early 90's Prevost, Newell
Post by: TomC on May 12, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
While the Series 60 is an excellent engine, it also is physically tall. An easier switch would be to use a Cummins ISM. Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Series 60/B500 in to early 90's Prevost, Newell
Post by: luvrbus on May 12, 2017, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: TomC on May 12, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
While the Series 60 is an excellent engine, it also is physically tall. An easier switch would be to use a Cummins ISM. Good Luck, TomC

Height is no problem in a Prevost for a 60 series 
Title: Re: Series 60/B500 in to early 90's Prevost, Newell
Post by: Boomer on May 13, 2017, 08:42:31 AM
I owned a '90 H3-40 with a factory S60.  It was ex Pacific Western and we bought it because it had a S&S wheel chair lift and we needed another chair car.  Don't remember the serial no.
Title: Re: Series 60/B500 in to early 90's Prevost, Newell
Post by: Timkar on May 13, 2017, 11:13:40 AM
Thanks Mark...I will have to go for a drive and check under the H3-40 I have my eye on to see how the tag is set up.