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Title: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: Brian Diehl on February 11, 2017, 08:20:43 AM
Last year Craig (gumpy) posted about his hydro hot leaking fuel when running.  My webasto is also leaking fuel only while running.  I would like to fix the leak.  In the post string related to Craig's post there was a comment about just using a rebuild kit to rebuild the seals on the webasto to stop the fuel leak.  I've looked across several different websites using google search to try and find a seal rebuild kit for the webasto without any success.  Does anyone know what the part number for the kit is and where I could purchase it?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: luvrbus on February 11, 2017, 08:24:50 AM
ShureMarine in WA has the kits lol you damn sure don't want to buy the pump I can tell you for sure BTDT
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: Boomer on February 11, 2017, 08:26:04 AM
Contact Shure Marine in Seattle, Webasto dealers.  They are very good about technical support and parts.
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: Boomer on February 11, 2017, 08:27:28 AM
Lol, the old master beat me by a couple minutes.
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: Brian Diehl on February 11, 2017, 08:35:55 AM
Thanks guys!  I'll give them a call and see if they can help.
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: Paso One on February 11, 2017, 09:10:43 AM
Brian try    www.rvhydronicheaterrepair.com (http://www.rvhydronicheaterrepair.com)  Roger has lots of parts and free advice :)
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: luvrbus on February 11, 2017, 09:17:55 AM
It really make np difference where you buy the parts they will come from Shure Marine, but Roger is located in Texas and another guy is Co Rich Carrillo is located in CO (972)518-3085 they both may have the kits 
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on February 11, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
Call Lloyd DeGerald at 501 258 8426. He is the best and his prices are very reasonable. Tell him Gary Hatt sent you. He is one of our advertisers so he is helping to support this website.  Without our advertisers support there would be no BCM Forum.  He is the one that services my unit every year in Quartzsite and may be traveling to a town near you anytime now.

Check out his website at www.Lloyddegerald.com (http://www.lloyddegerald.com)
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: luvrbus on February 11, 2017, 10:26:02 AM
Quote from: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on February 11, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
Call Lloyd DeGerald at 501 258 8426. He is the best and his prices are very reasonable. Tell him Gary Hatt sent you. He is one of our advertisers so he is helping to support this website.  Without our advertisers support there would be no BCM Forum.  He is the one that services my unit every year in Quartzsite and may be traveling to a town near you anytime now.

Check out his website at www.Lloyddegerald.com (http://www.lloyddegerald.com)

Lloyd is another good one he is honest and fair,he is like the other though he cannot control the price of Webasto parts 
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: gumpy on February 11, 2017, 10:39:59 AM
Let us know what you find. On mine, the leak is in the o-ring that is behind the plate on the front of the fuel pump. I've been told my several, including Lloyd (who was very helpful when I called him), that Webasto does not sell that washer. They want to sell you a new pump for something like $400.

I got one at the hardware store and put in in last spring. I don't think it was fuel rated, so it will probably get changed soon. I got one last fall from JD, but have not had time to put it in yet.
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: Brian Diehl on February 11, 2017, 05:56:56 PM
In talking to the guys up in Seattle I was given the following suggestions:

1) Check the banjo bolts holding the fuel inlet and outlet pipes on the fuel pump.  They can loosen up over time and leak.
2) Check the fuel solenoid as it can leak

If those aren't the problem I was told the only other choice was to replace the complete fuel pump at a cost of $260.

I'm hoping it is a simpler/easier fix!  Will need to pull the head off first to see what I can find.

Thanks for all the resource ideas everyone!
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: opus on February 11, 2017, 07:39:09 PM
Quote from: gumpy on February 11, 2017, 10:39:59 AM
Let us know what you find. On mine, the leak is in the o-ring that is behind the plate on the front of the fuel pump. I've been told my several, including Lloyd (who was very helpful when I called him), that Webasto does not sell that washer. They want to sell you a new pump for something like $400.

I got one at the hardware store and put in in last spring. I don't think it was fuel rated, so it will probably get changed soon. I got one last fall from JD, but have not had time to put it in yet.

If you can get a pump for $400...buy 2!!!  No, no...disregard that, I was thinking about the motor.  Carry on.....
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: luvrbus on February 11, 2017, 07:45:06 PM
While we talking Webasto parts do you guys know of a outlet to buy the $$$ control board ?
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: opus on February 11, 2017, 07:47:22 PM
Just the board inside the control box?
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: luvrbus on February 11, 2017, 07:55:18 PM
Yep I think I could install just the board I am not paying $800.00 for a control box
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: opus on February 11, 2017, 08:02:31 PM
I have NEVER seen one for sale.  You can get a rebuilt box for about $400ish, sometimes a used one for $250 or so.  I take it you have a bad board?  I've heard of guys replacing the relays but fortunately, I've not seen/heard of a bad board before.
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Post by: thomasinnv on February 11, 2017, 08:48:29 PM
Hey clifford keep an eye on fleabay. I recently purchased a good used box for a spare for $45, and a spare u4814 pump brand new in box with shipping for $100.

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Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: Scott & Heather on February 12, 2017, 05:58:43 AM
And this is why I don't have a webasto. I'm happy with my electric heat and roof heat pumps and house two stage furnace. Yikes. But I admit I would enjoy just having one fuel source.


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Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: luvrbus on February 12, 2017, 06:21:47 AM
Quote from: Scott & Heather on February 12, 2017, 05:58:43 AM
And this is why I don't have a webasto. I'm happy with my electric heat and roof heat pumps and house two stage furnace. Yikes. But I admit I would enjoy just having one fuel source.


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I have 2 of those to deal with in the DL the hydronic heat works good but I am trying get the factory install unit at the rear working that is still in place and tied into the bus engine and HVAC system for a backup if needed.Just what one needs in AZ  ;D but since it is already there and hooked up I want it to work
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: ol713 on February 12, 2017, 08:06:52 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on February 11, 2017, 07:45:06 PM
While we talking Webasto parts do you guys know of a outlet to buy the $$$ control board ?
HI;
        Try a google search for Dinosaur Electronics.  They mostly build circuit boards for
        Dometic and Norcold, but may have others.  Need to call them.
                                         Good luck,   Merle.
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Post by: thomasinnv on February 12, 2017, 12:57:36 PM
Clifford maybe you could send yours to Clay in Quartzsite. He works out of the loft at discount solar. I send all my electronic stuff to him, he can literally fix just about anything with a circuit board. He is an electronics wizard. I have been using him for years. 1-209-985-4765

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Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: eagle19952 on February 12, 2017, 01:29:31 PM
this outfit might make/have one ..

http://www.dinosaurelectronics.com/ (http://www.dinosaurelectronics.com/)
Title: Re: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: thomasinnv on February 12, 2017, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: eagle19952 on February 12, 2017, 01:29:31 PM
this outfit might make/have one ..

http://www.dinosaurelectronics.com/ (http://www.dinosaurelectronics.com/)
That would be outside their normal scope of products, but it's not to say that they couldn't fix it. Clifford if you decide to send it to Dinosaur you can use my account and get dealer price on the repair, which is usually half. And if it doesn't fix the problem they will refund your money.

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Post by: thomasinnv on February 12, 2017, 01:36:46 PM
Clifford what is the webasto doing when you turn it on?

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Post by: luvrbus on February 12, 2017, 03:04:36 PM
Quote from: thomasinnv on February 12, 2017, 01:36:46 PM
Clifford what is the webasto doing when you turn it on?

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It won't start, I got a tester (440-280) from the school everything checked good for the components through the tester it will run and fire, but nothing works through the control box when you hook it back up.The school has 5 or 6 of the DBW 2010 and DBW 2020 they removed and are giving me 1 should have a good control box I would think.I do like the tester Wes the shop foreman gave me   
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Post by: thomasinnv on February 12, 2017, 03:35:08 PM
Quote from: luvrbus on February 12, 2017, 03:04:36 PM


It won't start, I got a tester (440-280) from the school everything checked good for the components through the tester it will run and fire, but nothing works through the control box when you hook it back up.The school has 5 or 6 of the DBW 2010 and DBW 2020 they removed and are giving me 1 should have a good control box I would think.I do like the tester Wes the shop foreman gave me 
I'm sure you checked for battery voltage between B2 and B4? And voltage on B1 when you turn on the switch? There are also fuses and a relay in the rear junction box. I'm sure you probably know more about these things than I do but I figured I would just throw it out there.

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Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: luvrbus on February 12, 2017, 04:43:54 PM
Yep checked the voltage on B1,B2 and B4 checked C2 and C5 also
Title: Re: Webasto leaking fuel when running - seal rebuild kit?
Post by: gumpy on February 12, 2017, 05:15:54 PM
When I had problems with mine last year, I called Lloyd. He was very helpful leading me through some checks to rule out motor and clutch. Turned out, the solder joints on the relays on the control board had cracked. I resoldered them and it all works great again. Lloyd told me they sell new for about $900. He said he has a guy that can rebuild them, and then he charges $400 for the rebuilt ones. Pull the board out of the case and check the solder joints on the back of the relays. You have to be careful as the varnish can make it look like a crack in the solder joint when there's not.

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Post by: thomasinnv on February 13, 2017, 05:45:06 AM
Lloyd is a stand up guy and very knowledgeable on these systems, until you get outside the box such as home built systems and what would work and what won't. Cost me a chunk of change in trial and error because of "that will work fine" and "sure that would be no problem ". I have found him to be almost double on parts compared to sure marine. Don't get me wrong i really like Lloyd and think he is a stand up guy and would not hesitate to use his services on a packaged unit like the aquahot or hydro hot. And he has no problem helping steer you in the right direction when you are trying to troubleshoot something.

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