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It has more potential than a tiny house.
--Geoff
It must be hot in there in the summer, the bed bugs will have a hard time.
I love the jet engines on the roof in the back. Bet it is fast. :D
I thought they were venturies to pull odor out of the holding tanks! :-)
Nah, they're air flow plenum tubes that diffuse the air to reduce the velocity and
increase the pressure to keep the dust of the rear. ;)
But don't you just love the old "rope start"feature on the Onan?? Last one of these I saw was on a '75 Winnibago .My first MH!!!
Yea, I used to have a back up rope pull start on my 88 Mercury outboard. It was a 6 cylinder 200hp. Never had to use it, can't imagine trying to pull start a 6 cyl!
Yea, I used to have a back up rope pull start on my 88 Mercury outboard. It was a 6 cylinder 200hp. Never had to use it, can't imagine trying to pull start a 6 cyl!
I think I may know where this bus is - the Craigslist ad says Otay Mesa CA. When I've driven to the new Cross Border Express passenger footbridge that connects with Tijuana airport, I've seen a large junk yard off Britannia Road close to the 905 freeway that has some buses and RVs in it. One day I'll try to get a better look at it. There was an MCI bus there at one time, maybe an MC9, but I haven't seen it recently. These are the places where one can sometimes find the proverbial diamond in the rough.
The Toro-Flow engines definitely would not be my first choice for a bus, but those old Superiors weren't bad otherwise as a basic skoolie. I still don't think it's worth a penny more than minimum scrap value however.
John
Could someone please post the pic on here or a link that works. I can't seem to find it on there.
Thanks.
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Thanks Dave. Hard to say if it would be worth rehabbing but I saw one of those in one of my old GMC school bus chassis brochures.
I don't know how many of those old TOROFLOW diesels are still running since they were crap when they were first new. The gasoline V6's that GMC had in those years were tough but they were very thirsty and parts are getting hard to find. But a CUMMINS ISB engine and automatic transmission would fit.
The guy said that he would deal if someone showed up with cash in hand .Superior was mainly a body builder .Were not used much on the east coast as schoolies as they were two darned expensive.They got in to building motor homes using the old Dodge forward control chassis .These things were all steel tanks .I could take you to at least eight in the immediate area,Don't know how many of them steel run I did not know they ever made a "pusher" until I saw this one .I am not at all familiar with this engine .Was it a V6 ?? Another thing that I find interesting .is a Ten speed Fuller in a thirty ft coach .Why?? That transmission would probably be worth what he is asking for the bus .I would love to have this thing to play with ,but since I already have two ,the wife would leave me if I even mentioned getting another one!!!
Yes. The old GMC TOROFLOW was a diesel based on the famous GMC truck V6's that were used in GMC trucks and school bus chassis in the 1960's and 70's. From what I have read, most say that is was no good and question why GM built these when they already had wonderful proven diesel engines in the form of DETROIT DIESEL. Duplication and overlap as we know was quite common at GM back then and still is given that GMC and CHEVROLET are twins. I think they do that just to keep dealers happy.
Even the GMC V6 gasoline versions were product of this being that there were plenty of V8 gasoline engines that GM was already building but I guess they thought it was a good idea for each division to be equal but separate in many areas.
The funniest line about the TOROFLOW I saw is that the legend goes that there is a secret splinter group at GM that designs bad engines and cars and then when it fails, they fire them but there are others waiting in the wings. Think about it, the TOROFLOW, CHEVROLET VEGA, CORVAIR, OLDSMOBILE DIESEL, the whole SATURN division. Funny but it makes sense.
Quote from: CrabbyMilton on February 02, 2017, 06:47:10 AM
Yes. The old GMC TOROFLOW was a diesel based on the famous GMC truck V6's that were used in GMC trucks and school bus chassis in the 1960's and 70's. From what I have read, most say that is was no good and question why GM built these when they already had wonderful proven diesel engines in the form of DETROIT DIESEL. Duplication and overlap as we know was quite common at GM back then and still is given that GMC and CHEVROLET are twins. I think they do that just to keep dealers happy.
Even the GMC V6 gasoline versions were product of this being that there were plenty of V8 gasoline engines that GM was already building but I guess they thought it was a good idea for each division to be equal but separate in many areas.
The funniest line about the TOROFLOW I saw is that the legend goes that there is a secret splinter group at GM that designs bad engines and cars and then when it fails, they fire them but there are others waiting in the wings. Think about it, the TOROFLOW, CHEVROLET VEGA, CORVAIR, OLDSMOBILE DIESEL, the whole SATURN division. Funny but it makes sense.
Yep !!It does You know where this whole idea came from was the gas shortage of the seventies if this is the same diesel they were putting in cars along about then .Basically took a gas engine and fixed it to run on diesel fuel I never heard anyone say any thing good about these things except one local preacher.He had a 79 Olds with that diesel motor and I think he drove that thing for 400 thousand miles.Oh well!! One mans junk is another mans treasure!!! (this day and time I might not should have said that)
My former bus was a 1967 Superior Super Cruiser on a GM truck chassis. It had the pusher Toroflow engine. It did not have much power but got at least 10mpg. For all the negative statements about it, it was always dependable. I believe it was Luke that told me that, once they got the bugs out, it was not a bad engine if used in the right weight vehicle. At 26000 pounds, my Superior was probably at the very top or maybe over of its optimum service range.
An interesting thing about Superior is that they bought an huge, old military tank factory. I was told that they actually hot dip galvanized the entire shell. This certainly protected against rust, but also created some paint issues.
Quote from: Lin on February 02, 2017, 01:04:00 PM
My former bus was a 1967 Superior Super Cruiser on a GM truck chassis. It had the pusher Toroflow engine. It did not have much power but got at least 10mpg. For all the negative statements about it, it was always dependable. I believe it was Luke that told me that, once they got the bugs out, it was not a bad engine if used in the right weight vehicle. At 26000 pounds, my Superior was probably at the very top or maybe over of its optimum service range.
An interesting thing about Superior is that they bought an huge, old military tank factory. I was told that they actually hot dip galvanized the entire shell. This certainly protected against rust, but also created some paint issues.
I have seen them with the paint almost totally gone but have never seen one with rust issues even after sitting outside unused for years!!
Ha.
Well, that voltage regulator never did change much did it? Mine might be buried in the bay with the generator...but it's the same thing :)
I wonder if you set that one at 27.3 as well...
Quote from: daddysgirl on February 04, 2017, 12:14:27 PM
Ha.
Well, that voltage regulator never did change much did it? Mine might be buried in the bay with the generator...but it's the same thing :)
I wonder if you set that one at 27.3 as well...
Looks just like the one on my Prevo also!!!
Posted by: daddysgirl
"Ha.
Well, that voltage regulator never did change much did it? Mine might be buried in the bay with the generator...but it's the same thing Smiley
I wonder if you set that one at 27.3 as well..."
My 1967 Superior was 12v.
When the Toro Flow failed, GM went back to the 4-71 and 4-71T. Then they came out with another medium duty loser, the 8.2 fuel pincher. Oh, and the 53 series was another option.
Quote from: Iceni John on February 01, 2017, 07:56:06 AM
I think I may know where this bus is - the Craigslist ad says Otay Mesa CA. When I've driven to the new Cross Border Express passenger footbridge that connects with Tijuana airport, I've seen a large junk yard off Britannia Road close to the 905 freeway that has some buses and RVs in it. One day I'll try to get a better look at it. There was an MCI bus there at one time, maybe an MC9, but I haven't seen it recently. These are the places where one can sometimes find the proverbial diamond in the rough.
John
I took some folk to Tijuana airport this morning, actually to the CBX bridge (I don't even want to think how long the border wait is these days . . .), so I tried to see if this bus is in the junkyard near there - I didn't see it, but there are several other even larger junkyards north of the 905. I wonder where it is. Could be worth a gander.
John
Quote from: Iceni John on February 04, 2017, 05:30:50 PM
I took some folk to Tijuana airport this morning, actually to the CBX bridge (I don't even want to think how long the border wait is these days . . .), so I tried to see if this bus is in the junkyard near there - I didn't see it, but there are several other even larger junkyards north of the 905. I wonder where it is. Could be worth a gander.
John
John; Here is the phone number from the Craigslist ad. 619-376-7607