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Title: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on October 30, 2016, 09:46:56 AM
Just threw my fan belt. Haven't even made it to Tucson yet lol! Just past Wilcox AZ. My fan belt came apart and I didn't have a spare (I used my spare already on the last bus). Is it a C120? Trying to find a napa somewhere here that has one. Old one is shredded pretty bad. (https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161030%2F67eb8038ba622e7f7fb4759dce842ce7.jpg&hash=6b142574991636694d1c9aeb5d480f649fce8bad)


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Dave5Cs on October 30, 2016, 10:05:58 AM
Scott might still be a number on the flat side of the belt.
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on October 30, 2016, 10:10:34 AM
Nothing Dave. It's pretty worn out.


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: luvrbus on October 30, 2016, 10:22:14 AM
Find you a mill supply or a mining supply place I doubt you find one at auto store or have MCI ship one to WW William which is a MCI service center,back to Tuscon for you  ???  
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Dave5Cs on October 30, 2016, 10:27:16 AM
Tom Vassioni might be able to get the number off his for you he has same bus and engine. Mine is CX109 but mine is for a6V71 so probably not the same.
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: B_K on October 30, 2016, 10:32:44 AM
Scott you already know this but ALWAYS carry a spare BELT!
Anyway I'll be in the shop shortly and have some hanging on the wall.
text me at # to two 7 zero - 7 zero 5- eleven thirty nine (I don't have yer #) and I'll give you #'s off the ones I have in the shop.
Walking out the door now and have no internet in shop, but gotta stop at parts store on the way)
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: luvrbus on October 30, 2016, 10:37:15 AM
Scott, Tractor Supply may have it in the Kevlar belts used on lawn mowers they are good belts I starting using those on Eagles 50 bucks a pair compared to $150.00 a set from Jefferson
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on October 30, 2016, 10:43:16 AM
Thanks Cliff. By the way I need an address for you or a phone number can you PM me please we want to see you on Wednesday for two minutes


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on October 30, 2016, 10:47:06 AM
We are currently on the side of the road, so I really would like to not have to order one I'm driving into Tucson right now to see if I can find one there if not they claim on Napa in Phoenix on Thomas Road has one


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on October 30, 2016, 11:03:29 AM
Just checked tractor supply they have 100 inch belts but not 120 close but not quite there.


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: luvrbus on October 30, 2016, 11:04:31 AM
East or West Thomas in Phoenix ?
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on October 30, 2016, 11:12:20 AM
OK so we are on our way to Napa in Phoenix to pick up the only belt in town. How do I really tighten the belt down in terms of checking the tension. Is it just 1 inch of deflection to either side? My tensioner is a turnbuckle I remove the air tensioner long ago I like the turnbuckle better. I just wanted to make sure I got the tension correct is it even possible to over tighten the belt?


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on October 30, 2016, 11:37:07 AM
West Thomas Cliff


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: luvrbus on October 30, 2016, 11:55:38 AM
Scott. I always carry the the Flexco alligator splicer with me a belt has to be in bad shape for one not to work  www.flexco.com (http://www.flexco.com)  get one and keep it in your tool box
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on October 30, 2016, 12:15:19 PM
Good idea thank you I didn't know I could use that for such a big belt.


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: sledhead on October 30, 2016, 12:20:55 PM
the new spare belt I carry is 8g-27-5 and I got it from mci but when I google it it is 119" and mci say it is good for my 6v92 ta or 8v71

it took 3 weeks to get it from them but then again that might be because I live way way up north in per ma frost country

dave
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: B_K on October 30, 2016, 02:12:41 PM
Well Scott as you know all ready it's a CX 120 at least the 2 I had hanging on the wall had CX 120 on them the 3rd one which is a brand new belt has no #'s at all on it.
One of the ones that has a # on it is a Gates (the Gates has a tag on it with the 8G-27-5 zip tied to it also!) and the other is an off brand made in Holland/Denmark.

Your welcome to all 3 of them but one of them has a deep cut in what appears to be a fairly new belt! (I don't run MCI's anymore but have kept the belt in case someone needed them in an emergency)
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on October 30, 2016, 02:40:22 PM
Thanks anyway Bryce, I just drove 2 1/2 hours and almost 200 miles one way to pick one up at the Napa in Phoenix. I have it and I'm on my way back to the bus right now which is still on the side of the highway. I'm going to put the belt on, and hopefully have no more issues getting into the RV park we're scheduled to be at in Tucson tonight. But thank you so much Bryce!


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: B_K on October 30, 2016, 03:21:21 PM
Hey no problem I was headed to the shop to work on my Sprinter anyway!

What I hoped was going to be an easy fix by changing trans fld & filter didn't work out so I closed up shop and came home to come up w/plan B.
Right now looks like plan B will be the old tried & true '95 Chevy G30 15 passenger not as nice or comfortable as the Sprinter, but it will get them there and home!
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on October 30, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
Hey it's better than walking :-) can someone chime in on tightening the belt? What amounted to flexion should there be from side to side should I just do it really really tight? I do not want to slip this belt and mess it up it's the last one within 200 miles


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: brmax on October 30, 2016, 04:45:51 PM
To be rechecked in short order.
.015" per 1" of one side o.c. span, this in general.
No doubt this needs re checked in 5 minutes of run time, then monitored.
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: brmax on October 30, 2016, 05:14:06 PM
I'm sure your lookin for any items that may be a cause and or tore up from the belt break.
When after a good 5 minute run time it would be perfect if the v-belt had about the same amount on both sides and about .75"
These big dog belts run on the sides of the belt and don't need to be banjo string tight, more like a bass.
if there is no obstructions they can have "a lot" of slop, a 120 is a short belt : )
goodluck and roll on
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on October 30, 2016, 08:29:36 PM
Thanks gents. New belt was installed and I got back on the road. It was a 5 hour nearly 400 mile round trip from Wilcox to Phoenix to get the only belt available today within 200 miles. But we got it on her, I tightened it up. Started coach and let it idle. Shut down and then tightened a bit more. And we finally made it into our rv resort after dark tonight. Two security staff were kind enough to spot me while I pulled into the site. Will spend three days here and then off to Palm Springs California.


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: eagle19952 on October 30, 2016, 10:29:39 PM
I have always had better luck sourcing parts at Car Quest on the road to BFE... Always consider them if there is one nearby.  :)
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: boxcarOkie on October 31, 2016, 04:30:19 AM
In a pinch, panty-hose will get you to the next town.  But it is better to carry a spare.

What ever it takes to get you there.

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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Jim Eh. on October 31, 2016, 07:38:22 PM
Lordy, hope the woman that provided those never gets angry at anyone!
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Dave5Cs on October 31, 2016, 07:54:54 PM
Okie might look good in those!... oh you meant!...... :o ::)
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: B_K on November 01, 2016, 06:45:05 AM
UM hey Scott now is a good time to buy a spare belt!  (just in case)
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: TomC on November 01, 2016, 07:54:47 AM
What happened to the emergency belts that you can piece together for the right length? Are those made anymore, and could you use it on that long fan belt?
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Scott & Heather on November 02, 2016, 05:23:00 AM
Spare belt is on the list but I'm waiting to hear back from
Luke on getting a smaller fan pulley and then I'll buy two of those belts (whatever size that comes to)


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Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on November 03, 2016, 10:57:48 AM
I agree with B_K.  You should never leave home without a full set of spare fan belts and new belts are best.  I also recommend carrying a full set of fuel and oil filters too as there have been occasions when rocks have punctured holes in them spewing oil and/or fuel all over the place. As far as a coolant filter, that is less important if you even have one as many have bypass valves if they spring a leak.  Also remember to carry extra oil and coolant, the quantity depending on the amount you may need based on your engine and maintenance records.

There used to be fan belts that came in 1" sections (or so) that you can build yourself similar to Legos, which could be used temporarily in most situations. Haven't seen them in years. Maybe Clifford can comment on this as he may remember and may know if you can still buy these.  We had them on the farm to save us a trip into town if belts on the farm equipment broke when trying to get the hay in before dark.
Title: Re: Side of road again. Need a fan belt (size?)
Post by: luvrbus on November 03, 2016, 11:06:14 AM
You can still buy the Flexco splicers,they are popular when the pump is driven off the front of the crank on equipment so there is no need to remove the hyd pump to replace a belt