What type and where to get a cruise control. I have one in the Greydog now but do not know what kind or how to make it work if that is possible.
Ed I always use the King they cost a little more but worth it IMO,you probably have a old Bendix they been long gone for years
I have a semi scrap yard near me. I have an air throttle.
Am I likely to find anything to there helpful to have a cruise?
I used to use a Maple Sapling for mine. Cut it off to the right length and jam it in between the seat and the throttle pedal. I am all for the KISS method. ;D
Quote from: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on October 21, 2016, 12:54:56 PM
I used to use a Maple Sapling for mine. Cut it off to the right length and jam it in between the seat and the throttle pedal. I am all for the KISS method. ;D
The cruise controls are not really that great on the DD with the limiting speed governors, they work good on level ground but not great in the hills or a long incline
Correct. You really need three of them different lengths. One for driving on level ground, one for going up long hills, and one for going down hills which is the shortest one. If you don't want to bother with 3 sticks you can also use a brick as shown in this diagram I made up.
If you have an air throttle, you can do it at lower cost with a Rostra unit if that is of concern to you.Since you don't have a vacuum source, you would need the non vacuum system; the speedo control at the dash has to be purchased separately. Pete RTS Daytona used to sell them and helped with any issues any gave plenty of help. He used to be on the Bus Nuts site, but the info is probably on their archives. Btw the Rostra units are very adaptable; I've installed one on a Burgman scooter with excellent results. There are dip switches on the unit for many adjustments, such as rate of accel, with or without clutch, etc,etc. Comes with many pieces to adapt to just about anything on wheels. You can get more info on their site if you are interested.
Gary, you only need one stick for a 4104, one that just holds the pedal tight to the floor
My Courier 96 had a hand throttle. I used it a lot, like on the interstate.
My 5C has the Bendix cruise control. It is air operated. I fixed it a few years ago. It works really well. Parts are no longer available for it though, so when the control board goes, I'll have to do something different.
Edvanland, if yours is the Bendix, I think I still have the manual for it somewhere.
JC
I put a cruise king on my old bluebird great tech support good units did not make parts for 3208 off the shelf but sent bunch of extra parts to make it work when Bendix goes on mc8 will put one on for sure
Back in about 1970, I just pulled out the hand throttle on the Crown Supercoach dash board and kept my eye on road conditions. Worked fine. Long ago and far away.
Quote from: Tikvah on October 21, 2016, 12:39:17 PM
I have a semi scrap yard near me. I have an air throttle.
Am I likely to find anything to there helpful to have a cruise?
Semi tractors have been pretty much all electronic for going on 20 years now. Anything old enough to have an air throttle has probably been melted down for the scrap by now.
I have a King cruise control with air throttle. Because the V730 Allison also has an air controlled throttle modulator (gas pedal position sensor), I couldn't attach the King Cruise directly to the engine in the engine compartment. I measured the pedal and the travel of the end of the pedal-since I needed 2" of travel (if I remember correctly [and that doesn't happen as often as it used to]). I made a metal extension that I bolted to the end of the gas pedal. I drilled a large enough hole where the King Cruise pull cable could slide easily, and put a retainer adjuster at the end of the cable. I ran the King Cruise cable down through the floor of the driver's compartment, looped it under back up on the passenger side under the dash where I mounted the King Cruise control unit. The King Cruise pulls on the cable. Also when you order the King Cruise, you have to tell them what length cable you need. So now, the King Cruise pulls down on my gas pedal for me. At 60 (where you calibrate it) it works perfectly. It will work all the way down to around 20mph, just not as smooth (surges a bit). Also the King Cruise can be used for fast idle-which I like when I'm checking my tires. You have have some sort of speed sensor. I used a through drive for the speedometer-meaning, you take off the speedometer pulse generator off the transmission, mount the King Cruise pulse generator first, then reconnect the speedometer pulse generator to the King Cruise generator. The only other modification was having to add a 100ohm resistor to the brake light circuit since with LED lights, there wasn't enough resistance for the King Cruise to sense the brake lights. Has been 100% reliable since I installed it 15 years ago. Good Luck, TomC
Our 4104 has a throttle lock lever that allows locking the throttle pedal (better known as the "gas pedal") in any desired position. It doesn't allow full speed as the pedal does (68 mph) but will keep the bus at 63 mph without a foot on the throttle. Not automatic but nice for freeway cruising. We like it...
Good old memories of the "Kamikazi Kruise" . Get up to speed, pull it out, turn the knob as hard as it would go and hope nothing pulled out in front! I always kept my right knee about 5-6 inches from it hoping that would be a close enough gap to hit it real fast in an emergency. Thankfully never had to test that theory, LOL.
Ryan.