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Title: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: belfert on September 19, 2016, 07:48:05 AM
One of the my red LED clearance lights quit working.  I didn't have another red one so I used an orange LED one instead.  Since the plastic covers are colored I guess I thought the LEDs were white.  It turns out the orange light has orange LEDs instead of white ones.  Now the light has an reddish orange look to it.  I guess it is better to have something than a non-working light.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on September 19, 2016, 08:37:42 AM
Depends on the officer that stops you.

One may think a burned out clearance light is okay as stuff happens and you may get a warning, while putting on the wrong colored lens is a violation of DOT rules and may get you a ticket.  Always carry a box of doughnuts just in case.  :D
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: belfert on September 19, 2016, 08:50:05 AM
I have the right color lens, but the LEDs under the lens are the wrong color.  Maybe I would be better off just cutting the wire to the light.  I don't think I will have time to get another light tonight.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: gumpy on September 19, 2016, 10:24:55 AM
I wouldn't worry about it. I ran for about 8 years with all my clearance lights burned out. No problems. Never got stopped. I replaced them all this year.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: chessie4905 on September 19, 2016, 10:56:31 AM
You could temporarily cover the lens with that transparent red tape used to repair broken tail light lenses.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: scanzel on September 19, 2016, 10:58:08 AM
I ran my bus around for the last 5 plus years with no front or rear clearance lights, finally painted the front roof area this year and put all new ones on. Still need to do the rears and paint the rear cap. Never ran it at night so maybe I lucked out on getting stopped.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: Jon on September 19, 2016, 02:53:39 PM
I'm kind of amazed that running around without the proper lighting is characterized as not a big deal. If the stuff people can see is inoperative I can only imagine what such pesky things like brakes are like.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: gumpy on September 19, 2016, 03:30:51 PM
Quote from: Jon on September 19, 2016, 02:53:39 PM
I'm kind of amazed that running around without the proper lighting is characterized as not a big deal. If the stuff people can see is inoperative I can only imagine what such pesky things like brakes are like.

What are brakes?  Did my bus come with them? 


For crying out loud, we're talking about clearance lights here. Don't make wild assumptions about non-related mechanical stuff which you know nothing about.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: Stormcloud on September 19, 2016, 04:06:56 PM
I replaced all the taillight bulbs on my S10 truck (one of the toads) as one of the previous owners had installed amber bulbs in every socket. Amber shining through a red lens does give a slightly different glow, and they are way better with standard white bulbs.

Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: Tony LEE on September 19, 2016, 04:29:29 PM
Quote from: Jon on September 19, 2016, 02:53:39 PM
I'm kind of amazed that running around without the proper lighting is characterized as not a big deal. If the stuff people can see is inoperative I can only imagine what such pesky things like brakes are like.

Not really an issue. My MC8 even with the very modest number of top and bottom lights and side reflectors common for that era, still has about 3 times more lights than is required by the regulations.  And anyway, who ever drives at night.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: digesterman on September 19, 2016, 04:35:10 PM
It would bug the hell out of me if even one of my bulbs wasn't working
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on September 19, 2016, 04:47:19 PM
As I understand the law in CA, it doesn't matter how many lights are on the new model buses, every light that came on the model bus you are driving must be on there and must work. You can't just inadvertently remove a light like I wanted to do when I had a real hassle trying to run new wiring to my starboard mid-ship light and almost gave up.  Other states may have other laws. But I too, like all of my lights working as I want everyone to see me at night.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: belfert on September 19, 2016, 05:29:28 PM
I stopped at Fleet Farm this evening and bought a new proper red LED clearance light.  It took all of about 20 minutes to replace and now all of my lights work again and are the right color. 

I have spent many thousands of dollars on fixing my brakes over the years.  Everything was new in 2006 except the brake chambers and some of the slack adjusters.  Slack adjusters and brake chambers have been replaced in the past five years.  I have the brakes checked every year.  I have never said no to any needed brake repairs.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: belfert on September 19, 2016, 05:33:48 PM
Quote from: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on September 19, 2016, 04:47:19 PM
As I understand the law in CA, it doesn't matter how many lights are on the new model buses, every light that came on the model bus you are driving must be on there and must work. You can't just inadvertently remove a light like I wanted to do when I had a real hassle trying to run new wiring to my starboard mid-ship light and almost gave up.  Other states may have other laws. But I too, like all of my lights working as I want everyone to see me at night.

I quit using the original brake/tail/turn signals at the rear of my bus because the bulbs randomly lost connection in the sockets.  I replaced them with LED lights mounted in a different spot.  I covered the original lights with sign vinyl that matches the color of bus because I had heard that any visible lights need to be working even if you have the legally required lights.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: bobofthenorth on September 19, 2016, 07:26:08 PM
What Jon said X 2.

Jon's brother John Law can't stop every vehicle on the road.  Why run around with a sign saying "STOP ME!"  Not to mention that clearance lights are a safety issue. 
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: Scott & Heather on September 19, 2016, 07:41:23 PM
My mci 9 had working clearance lights for....oh about 5 months of the 6 years I owned and drove it. Never had an issue. I have tail lights headlights and turn signals. If you can't see me with those, then clearance lights sitting 12 feet up high aren't going to help you see me any better. My current 102 doesn't even have a single lamp installed yet. Coming soon but not yet.


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Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: kyle4501 on September 19, 2016, 07:54:03 PM
Around here, the local pd will stop you for inoperable lights.
Don't seem to be bothered by lack of a tag though. . . .  
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: belfert on September 19, 2016, 09:02:52 PM
Quote from: Scott Bennett on September 19, 2016, 07:41:23 PM
My mci 9 had working clearance lights for....oh about 5 months of the 6 years I owned and drove it. Never had an issue. I have tail lights headlights and turn signals. If you can't see me with those, then clearance lights sitting 12 feet up high aren't going to help you see me any better. My current 102 doesn't even have a single lamp installed yet. Coming soon but not yet.

I also question why the need for clearance lights so high up.  My bus and trailer are lit up like a Christmas tree at night.  If you can't see my vehicle at night then you need to stop driving.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: edvanland on September 20, 2016, 12:28:32 PM
 Arizona big brother can stop you if any light doesn't work. They love licenses plate lights not working.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: eagle19952 on September 20, 2016, 12:36:47 PM
Quote from: edvanland on September 20, 2016, 12:28:32 PM
Arizona big brother can stop you if any light doesn't work. They love licenses plate lights not working.
in Texas and some other states, if a license plate frame obstructs the county or other portions of the plate u can get a ticket...it is there "probable cause" excuse....
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: uncle ned on September 21, 2016, 04:42:33 PM


Kyle   in SC a license plate is optional equipment.

uncle ned
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on September 21, 2016, 05:20:18 PM
In some states, use of directional lights seems optional.  :D
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: oltrunt on September 21, 2016, 07:05:26 PM
I can remember back in the 60's in North Carolina when the best place to get a current licence tag was in the junk yard.  The tags weren't numbered and computers were still a wet dream for the LAW.

My My how times have changed.

Jack
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: Oonrahnjay on September 21, 2016, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on September 21, 2016, 05:20:18 PMIn some states, use of directional lights seems optional.  :D

      I've been some places where I'd change that to "seems illegal" ...
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: gumpy on September 21, 2016, 09:12:16 PM
Quote from: eagle19952 on September 20, 2016, 12:36:47 PM
in Texas and some other states, if a license plate frame obstructs the county or other portions of the plate u can get a ticket...it is there "probable cause" excuse....

Evidently in PA, it's illegal to have a 2" trailer ball mounted in you bumper because it blocks view of the license plate. Either that, or it's a technique used to make illegal stops on out of state plates.
Title: Re: Did something stupid yesterday
Post by: oltrunt on September 21, 2016, 09:30:16 PM
That's the law in Ca.  Is that the way it is in most states?

Jack