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Title: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: Seangie on June 29, 2016, 07:39:56 AM
The last two oil changes I did not do myself.  But this time as Im looking at the filter it looks like oil has been leaking around the seal of the filter.

The filter on there now is currently a LFP670 oil filter.  Is this the correct filter?  It seems to cross reference what I have written down.

Here is a pic of the filter with the oil wiped off so I could read the part#

If its not the filter, anything that might be causing this?  Is there an oring or gasket that may have fallen out? 

Just checking now before I get started on this today.  Trying to minimize trips to the parts store.

Thanks guys.

-Sean

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Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: Dave5Cs on June 29, 2016, 07:49:33 AM
Maybe didn't give it that extra 1/8" turn to seat it after hand tightening it. Also When I took my truck in for service once I had them change the oil also because I didn't have time to. The gasket on the filter must have suck to the surface of the filter housing. They then put the new filter right on over it and I noticed a leak the next day. Have to have them take it off and take out the other gasket. They were stacked on top of the other one.
Dave
Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: luvrbus on June 29, 2016, 07:50:20 AM
That is the correct filter it is the same as a Napa 1970 or Wix 51970
Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: eagle19952 on June 29, 2016, 09:05:19 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on June 29, 2016, 07:50:20 AM
That is the correct filter it is the same as a Napa 1970 or Wix 51970
NAPA filters are made by WIX.  i like them a lot, when i was in fleet maintenance i used hundreds of them, none ever failed :)
Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: opus on June 30, 2016, 08:11:45 AM
Probably needs tightening.  Mine does that and hand tightening WONT do it.
Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: brmax on June 30, 2016, 08:41:01 AM
+1   tightening with a band type wrench, these big equipment filters need a wrench I agree.

And a super roll of towels cleaning up the area, that's a bummer but your ahead.
Some fill them filters up first, others pull the cam sensor and turn it over until psi build up and some engines don't turn the fuel on until good oil psi.
Whatever its a good catch that you found it to address the issue, good eye!  play ball

Floyd
Title: Re:
Post by: Seangie on June 30, 2016, 07:46:23 PM
Well - Got the oil change done last night.  That old filter was too tight to remove by hand.  No one had a filter wrench big enough for it so ended up using a large pair of offset pliers to get it off. 

Cleaned it up and usually Ill run just a little oil around the filter seal, just enough to wet it but this time I put the filter on dry by hand as tight as I could.

Today we are driving to Canada and after 2 hours I checked it and there was one little dribble.  Engine being hot I  tightened it some more and got about half a turn out of it.  We got an other 2 hour run up to Bellingham tonight and Ill check it again there.

Hopefully thats the last of it.  A little drip of oil makes a big freakin mess.

-Sean

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Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: Scott & Heather on July 01, 2016, 02:33:12 AM
So true...wait, you're driving a two stroke, are you seriously concerned about a dribble of oil? You need to see my old bus shanks...you ever looked at the business end of that coach? You couldn't even see the blue paint it was so oily. Prevents rust :) I use a strap wrench for our filters. Works for us.


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Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: brmax on July 01, 2016, 05:50:51 AM
I totally agree the strap helps, for installation. With new clean filters a rubber strap type, I was given a kit it came with 3 and they work well on large oil - small fuel filters and such.
The metal band type work well also if they can be found, used them for years some can be used on angle  :)
It sounds like you got it locked down now.
good day
Floyd
Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: eagle19952 on July 01, 2016, 01:40:29 PM
replaced a lot of these...my way.. ;D

take a large punch/chisel and punch a hole in the center of the bottom of the filter can...go grab a coffee while the filter drains...into a pan.

drive bar punch heel bar through filter (all the way) ..remove filter. Saves rags.

install filter per instruction. ;)
Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: luvrbus on July 01, 2016, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: eagle19952 on July 01, 2016, 01:40:29 PM
replaced a lot of these...my way.. ;D

take a large punch/chisel and punch a hole in the center of the bottom of the filter can...go grab a coffee while the filter drains...into a pan.

drive bar punch heel bar through filter (all the way) ..remove filter. Saves rags.

install filter per instruction. ;)

As tight as Sean has it now he will using the punch method Donald next oil change  ???
Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: Dave5Cs on July 01, 2016, 02:10:01 PM
I just got this filter wrench the other day through Amazon and it works great for my big tranny filter, oil fuels, etc. Nice thing is I can use extensions or wobble heads with too.

https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-53100-Adjustable-Filter-Wrench/dp/B000GTJ7TA/ref=pd_sbs_263_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=41sIsQd0npL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&psc=1&refRID=AK3JQQBSVKJRX28RKRGR (https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-53100-Adjustable-Filter-Wrench/dp/B000GTJ7TA/ref=pd_sbs_263_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=41sIsQd0npL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&psc=1&refRID=AK3JQQBSVKJRX28RKRGR)
Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: luvrbus on July 01, 2016, 02:20:14 PM
I bought a Nekio off Amazon don't waste you money on those,a great idea that doesn't work though
Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: Dave5Cs on July 01, 2016, 02:26:15 PM
This is a Lisle works great. I did see those though Clifford...
Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: Scott & Heather on July 01, 2016, 03:09:31 PM
Mine is a fabric nylon strap. Not a rubber one


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Title: Re:
Post by: Seangie on July 01, 2016, 05:06:28 PM
Im with Don on this one.  Screwdriver hole punch.  Now upon closed inspection it looks like its leaking somewhere above the filter.  Not much bur its enough to pool around the edga and dribble down.

Enjoying a sunny day in Stanley park which brings me to my next question...

New post...

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Title: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: luvrbus on July 01, 2016, 05:23:36 PM
Were is the oil filter located on the bus ?,on a 6v92 with a Allison they usually have the double cooler and the oil filter is a remote mount
Title: Re: Re: Do I have the correct oil filter?
Post by: Seangie on July 01, 2016, 07:31:23 PM
Quote from: luvrbus on July 01, 2016, 05:23:36 PM
Were is the oil filter located on the bus ?,on a 6v92 with a Allison they usually have the double cooler and the oil filter is a remote mount
Exactly.  Remote up by the tranny and tranny filter.

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