Trying to get a recommendation on nice warm LED ceiling lights that are dimmable. Puck style.. 120 volt is fine 24 volt is fine. A lot of the LED's from lowes are 24 volt anyway. Just hack off the transformer. But I'll be using these throughout the coach for ceiling lighting and need them to be dimming, bright, and warm light.im seeing some items online but I am not paying $30 per light fixture. That's nuts. Something in the $10 or less per puck range would be nice
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Make sure you check the transformer on those 120v LED lights. Many are 12vdc output. I know this because I bought some out door LED lights and modified them into my ceiling lights. They were 12vdc. Good Luck, TomC
Scott, they are not puck but I bought 5 in 2700k90-cri that came with the trim flush mount on sale at HD for 29 bucks for a package of 4 they work on 28 v or 110 v but I haven't tried the dimming yet ;D I haven't bought the switches yet
The cheapest LED lights are usually made in China and have inconsistent quality. Look for lights with Samsung LED's, or consider RV lights with bulbs, then put in LED's as replacements for the bulbs.
hi Scott, at HD, their private brand, Commercial Electric, in green boxes, have LED strip lights, are 12V DC, powered by a dimmer/transformer/on-off switch that is 120V AC output 12VDC. they're 3/8" 8ft strips, I left the overhead I beam for the luggage racks in, for a dropped ceiling, there is one side facing the windows, that is "L" shaped, about an inch high, where I stacked two strips, with their peel and stick backs, there, one with power direct from my 12VDC source, one from the transformer dimmer unit powered by an AC plug, so same lights, one AC one DC, and they bounce off the curved ceiling on the sides of the roof for indirect lighting, they come in different color temperatures and colors, lvmci...
https://youtu.be/keaE7QTKTYE (https://youtu.be/keaE7QTKTYE)
I saw this video quite some time ago... I wouldn't put it past Chinese manufacturers with low quality control to do something idiotic with the lights they produce. At my job I have to deal direct with China and Taiwan every now and again in order to develop Class II medical devices, it is sometimes scary what they try and pass off as acceptable. At least with the majority of name brand products from HD or comparable online/storefront you can be a little more confident in their quality control of such products.
I know the outlet in this video is specific but it is only an example of how something simple can potentially be dangerous.
I'll be paying attention to all the suggestions too, interested to see what everyone is using for LED's (have to purchase some soon as well)!
I've seen that video before. Scary indeed. I like the ikea dioder lights. I'm specifically looking for round circles in the ceiling versus strip lights.
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Scott just got some off E-bay that are 2 1/2 inches round and have mousetrap type fastening housing=cut hole push thru and they fasten in place. They were good enough I reordered. About $7 each. I will look up suppier or link when I get back later. I have found the non dim able just shut off at to low voltage.
interior ceiling light 12 volt.. 301790404655 from wayspride(seller) on E Bay. I hope that gets you to the item. Bob
Quote from: robertglines1 on June 13, 2016, 06:32:40 AM
interior ceiling light 12 volt.. 301790404655 from wayspride(seller) on E Bay. I hope that gets you to the item. Bob
this one ?
http://stores.ebay.com/Ways-Pride (http://stores.ebay.com/Ways-Pride)
this one ?
https://www.marketplacepulse.com/amazon/usa/wayspride-llc (https://www.marketplacepulse.com/amazon/usa/wayspride-llc)
Check out his videos. He's using the IKEA lights. https://youtu.be/481ot1BgUXo
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If you can use standard residential type fixtures, Costco is selling a box of 4, 9.5 watt (60 watt equivalent), 800 lumen, 2700k, dimmable, LED bulbs for under $10.
Donald the first link took me to their site. They fit nice and have a good temp(lumes)inside bus. Sort of warm white not the bright glare.
Scott -
Make sure you think this through :)
It's all about the bulb. Any fixture can be made into a light. So even if its wired for 120v you can hook up 24v to it and its going to be the bulb that needs to be 24v not necessarily the fixture. Wiring for 24v is thinner than 12v and 120v so you dont have to worry about a 12v or 120v fixture browning out on you.
Make sure you get something where the bulb is replaceable. Nothing worse than spending all that time putting it together and then having fixtures starting to drop out on you one at a time. If the bulb is replaceable then you just get a new bulb.
If you need to, get (2) 12v lights and wire them in series to get to 24v. But all dimmable LED lamps now are able to handle voltages between 12 and 24v. So this shouldn't matter.
Here is an option - This is just the housing without the bulb. So the price looks cheap but when you figure in 5$ each for the bulb its a little more.
http://www.build.com/wac-lighting-hr-led-cov-under-cabinet-light/s547331?uid=1645081&gclid=Cj0KEQjws_m6BRCv37WbtNmJs-IBEiQAWKKt0J90JZTA5Bk70jXCNCYfEVDoBXySdVjNIZRFvDlaVUoaAs2D8P8HAQ&source=gg-gba-pla_1645081____37323748399&s_kwcid=AL!4215!3!37323748399!!!g!177743412799! (http://www.build.com/wac-lighting-hr-led-cov-under-cabinet-light/s547331?uid=1645081&gclid=Cj0KEQjws_m6BRCv37WbtNmJs-IBEiQAWKKt0J90JZTA5Bk70jXCNCYfEVDoBXySdVjNIZRFvDlaVUoaAs2D8P8HAQ&source=gg-gba-pla_1645081____37323748399&s_kwcid=AL!4215!3!37323748399!!!g!177743412799!)
I think this includes the housing and the cover that pop's in. You would have to double check that.
Easy install in your ceiling. Just gotta drill some big holes :)
-Sean
Sean
Those housings look like exactly what I need. They even have the rubbed bronze bezel. So the question is what kind of bulbs do they take? Is it something very common that wouldn't be obsolete?
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Quote from: Scott Bennett on June 13, 2016, 07:20:36 PM
Sean
Those housings look like exactly what I need. They even have the rubbed bronze bezel. So the question is what kind of bulbs do they take? Is it something very common that wouldn't be obsolete?
Dunno what kind of bulb that's in them but when I did my overhead interior lights about 5 years ago, I was told that a "puck light" with halogen bulbs was a good way to go. I installed them and they put out a lot of light but they sucked watts and they were hot. So I ordered "G4" (the bulbs have two straight bare wire connectors 4mm apart) LED's from a company called "RVLeds" (I think that's right). Gary Throneberry ("Garhawk" on here) had some "cool blue" and some "warm white" - which have sort of a golden color - in his bus. I have a lot of blue and blueish grey in my bus so I went with the blue. Love them, love them, love them and the watt meter on my Outback inverter doesn't even register any wattage draw when they're switched on.
I only have one problem -- anybody need 28 mini-halogen bulbs??? :)
28 bulbs ! you did good . 1st coach used 35 bulbs 2nd coach took 42 bulbs but yes they use very little power and if they ever blow they can be replaced
like this
https://www.amazon.com/4-Pack-White-Non-dimmable-Equivalent-Incandescent/dp/B00UYHLXJG?ie=UTF8& (https://www.amazon.com/4-Pack-White-Non-dimmable-Equivalent-Incandescent/dp/B00UYHLXJG?ie=UTF8&)*Version*=1&*entries*=0
dave
BRUCE
I am thinking of doing exactly what you did. The halogen puck housings are cheap and plentiful. I didn't know they made G4 LED bulbs that would fit inside the housing behind the glass. I just need to find dimmable versions of what Dave posted (I think I did find several versions on Amazon) in warm light and I'm set. Thank you so much!
Quote from: Scott Bennett on June 14, 2016, 03:15:19 PM
BRUCE
I am thinking of doing exactly what you did. The halogen puck housings are cheap and plentiful. I didn't know they made G4 LED bulbs that would fit inside the housing behind the glass. I just need to find dimmable versions of what Dave posted (I think I did find several versions on Amazon) in warm light and I'm set. Thank you so much!
I have to thank Gary. BTW, the LED's I have are dimmable. I'm pretty sure I bought them from RVLeds.com.
http://www.rvledbulb.com/ocart/index.php?route=product/category&path=60 (http://www.rvledbulb.com/ocart/index.php?route=product/category&path=60)
Quote from: sledhead on June 14, 2016, 02:53:03 PM28 bulbs ! you did good . 1st coach used 35 bulbs 2nd coach took 42 bulbs ...
Wow, Dave, and you have only one ceiling! :)
OK, so I am looking for the absolute cheapest halogen puck lights I can find and found one for $2.78 each. Is that a good price? I'll buy 30, install them and then swap the halogens out for the brightest dimmable warm G4 LED's I can find...
Quote from: Scott Bennett on June 14, 2016, 03:51:08 PMOK, so I am looking for the absolute cheapest halogen puck lights I can find and found one for $2.78 each. Is that a good price? I'll buy 30, install them and then swap the halogens out for the brightest dimmable warm G4 LED's I can find...
Scott, there's something odd about the LEDs shown in the link that I added above. I'm pretty sure that mine were kinda shaped like a frying pan with the two G4 pins being the handle. The ones in the photos are close but not exactly right. The RVLed place were really helpful with my order, maybe you should give them a call.
BH
Hello, I went to the Seattle Boat Show and there was a display from Imtra. They make high end LED lights for Yachts. Your post asked for the best. These are the nicest I have found. Unfortunately, they have yacht pricing.
Thanks, Bandsaw
Quote from: Scott Bennett on June 14, 2016, 03:51:08 PM
OK, so I am looking for the absolute cheapest halogen puck lights I can find and found one for $2.78 each. Is that a good price? I'll buy 30, install them and then swap the halogens out for the brightest dimmable warm G4 LED's I can find...
Scott G4s will easily fit into the halogen sockets. G4s have 2 wires.
Heres a video for reference -
https://youtu.be/qODrCtyiDWg
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Quote from: Seangie on June 14, 2016, 10:05:32 PM
Scott G4s will easily fit into the halogen sockets. G4s have 2 wires. Heres a video for reference -
https://youtu.be/qODrCtyiDWg
Yes. I'm pretty sure that the bulbholder shown in the video is the one I'm using in my bus. But the led units I've installed are the ones that are like the flat, round "pancake" style. They are shown right center in the photo at the end.
the ones I used were easy to install because they are the same size as the original bulbs . I looked at a lot of bulbs but most are two big and you will have to rebuild the light to use them .
https://www.amazon.com/4-Pack-White-Non-dimmable-Equivalent-Incandescent/dp/B00UYHLXJG?ie=UTF8& (https://www.amazon.com/4-Pack-White-Non-dimmable-Equivalent-Incandescent/dp/B00UYHLXJG?ie=UTF8&)
dave
Quote from: sledhead on June 15, 2016, 04:50:04 AMthe ones I used were easy to install because they are the same size as the original bulbs . ....
Yeah. I used these.
(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff60%2Foonrahnjay%2FBus%2FLed_zpsjwexqgck.png&hash=c9198d49b3b10f6f0715d7e4e8fc95d55be4c015) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/oonrahnjay/media/Bus/Led_zpsjwexqgck.png.html)
They're bigger than the original but they fit in my bulbholders which are very similar to the ones shown in Sean's video, above. Simple - take out the halogen bulb, put in the LED; you'll see it's a bit larger than the original but after 3 years, they've worked fine. The part number was HP-G409-C, if you buy them in packs of 10, there's approx a 1$ discount each, that's HP-G409-C-10. Like I said, these are bright "cool blue" color, if you want the "warm white" with the golden hue, check the part number for those.
(NOTE: Actually the ones shown in the photo are 6-LED - the ones I got had 9 LED chips but they look very similar.)
the led fixtures I mentioned with spring install use the same pan like led . The lens screws off and you access them to replace. FWIW I tried to post pic but said file was to large! Bob
I have replaced halogen bulbs with G4 LEDs in ceiling puck lights, but they don't last long. The first ones were from Super Bright LEDs. The second ones from a street vendor in Quartzsite. The sockets test at 12 V. I guess the bulbs were cheap... Am afraid to buy more, gets expensive...
JC
A little off topic, but thanks for starting this thread. I was just replacing my compact fluorescents with LED bulbs. The thread reminded me that I can now install dimmers too.
Quote from: lostagain on June 15, 2016, 06:53:28 AMI have replaced halogen bulbs with G4 LEDs in ceiling puck lights, but they don't last long. The first ones were from Super Bright LEDs. The second ones from a street vendor in Quartzsite. The sockets test at 12 V. I guess the bulbs were cheap... Am afraid to buy more, gets expensive...
JC
I expect that they're all Chinese Replacement Auto Parts (aka C.R.A.P.) but mine have been perfect for about 3 years. BH
these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LW9CWI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=272KL4C40YRPD&coliid=I21CPU6H9WAMH6 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LW9CWI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=272KL4C40YRPD&coliid=I21CPU6H9WAMH6)
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