Brought her home on Wednesday April 13 and started ripping it apart the next day. Had it mostly stripped and ready for fabrication in two days. Left side completely framed for new windows and skinned, started welding on the right side.
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We have a short time to do this conversion. We need to roll by July 1st.
Haha awesome!! We are attempting to convert our 102C3 by September for the same reason!! Lol! Go go go!
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Looks great and will be even better when done.
Excellent!
We all love pictures!!!
happy coaching!
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More progress. Got the wheelchair door removed and ready to start welding in framework to close the hole.
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Also disabled all the lift controls and ready to yank the lift out. Anyone know where I can get a smooth side bay door to replace the lift access door?
Sheesh oh peesh, are you working on this thing in the middle of the desert???
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Wouldn't it be easier to get the big stuff inside before you close up the hole. Why fight getting the mattress and frige in the front door. I was contemplating getting one of those just because I figured the door would come in handy for just that part of it. Nice bus. Have fun. It's fun being in a bus that your other bus could fit inside of. Isn't it.
Out of curiosity, what type of welder are you using? If you are using a generator to use it what model/wattage generator?
jav9956 I use the little generator for the power tools. I have a bigger generator for the welder. Scott, I am parked at my house, and yes it is in the middle of the dessert. Our power is solar and generator, and we haul in our water. We really don't mind, we are not here much anyway. Usually just a few weeks in the spring on our way north, then a few weeks in the fall on our way south.
I sent you a PM, just hoping to find out a little more specific information on the set-up because I need to do something similar now to keep my project moving along. If you have the time it would help a ton to learn a little from your experience.
Thank you, awesome bus by the way!
All the new steel is in place, all the new skin is on, contacted a body and paint guy i know and hes gonna come look at it and get ready for paint. Floor is going down tomorrow and then I will get started on interior wall layout. Boy oh boy removing the handicap lift controls and the door and framing it in was more difficult than removing the old bathroom. I always thought the bathroom was the worst part of the whole job, not anymore.
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I wanted to keep the smooth side appearance and not bugger it up with rivets in the new skin, so after much research I decided to go with sika flex, which seemed to be the product of choice by many converters. I ran short and the box store here didn't have anymore so I tried another product by loktite called 'ultimate' something or other. Zero hold time, meaning it grabs instantly no bracing required. After using it on a few panels i discovered it beats sika flex hands down. The sika flex just pales in comparison, even after 24 hours I found i had to add bracing in a few places with the sika flex. The loktite stuff just grabbed and wouldn't let go. Wish I'd used it from the beginning.
Can you post exactly what you're using for adhesive? Loctite?? Ultimate?
Never mind I found it.
Doesn't sika make a power grab too?
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Thats what i started out using was the sika power bond or power grab or something like that.
Got the floor down today. Gonna hang the reflectix and start framing out walls tomorrow. It will be nice to start seeing some progress, and start seeing something take shape inside.
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Here it is. ;D
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Thanks. Can I trust this stuff as much as sika?
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What did you do for interior insulation?
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Got all the interior walls framed up. Decided to go with a side bathroom instead of a walk through like in the 8, seems I'm always waiting for someone to get out of the bathroom so I can get to the bedroom, not gonna happen any more. I'll try to remember some pictures tomorrow.
Quote from: Scott Bennett on April 24, 2016, 08:32:21 PMWhat did you do for interior insulation?
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2" r-max thermasheath 3 with a r value of 13.1, with a layer of double sided reflectix over that, and 3/4 fir strips for the required air space for a total r value of over 20 for the whole assembly.
Made a little more progress today. Got some of the reflectix up with fur strips, and built one set of bunks.
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A guy i know that does body and paint came by today to look at doing a paint job on the bus, quoted me 3800 to paint all the new skin. That sound fair? I know there is a lot of prep work involved with the bare aluminun and they have to use the zink oxide base coat. Seems a little high to me but I don't know. The guy is a friend of mine and I would hope he wouldn't rip me off, but sometimes being a friend costs you in the end.
I have another quick question for you. I can't tell from your pictures but are you overlapping your aluminum panels on your skins?
That's a fair price for paint. Materials alone will run upwards of $1100 for BC/CC
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That's a fair price for paint. Materials alone will run upwards of $1100 for BC/CC
Second that, and proper prep of the bare aluminum is critical.
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I have another quick question for you. I can't tell from your pictures but are you overlapping your aluminum panels on your skins?
No they are butted together
Got the other set of bunks built today, yeah thats 4 bunks total. Got some more of the reflectix hung on the walls, and gar all the 12 volt wired for the rear half of the coach. I'll most likely be cutting the holes in the roof for some of the ac's and fantastic fans tomorrow. Progress seems to have slowed a bit, lots to do.
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Sorry about the rear end in those pics, my wife took them and she doesn't seem to mind looking at it lol.
Been making progress, slow but sure. Doing cedar t&g and all those precision cuts take a lot of time.
2 months ago I ordered a motion window for the entry door of the MC8 and it came in yesterday. So if anyone is interested i have a brand new still in the crate never installed motion window slider with screen for an MC8 available for your pleasure! Make me an offer.
Is it the same size for the 102?
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It is not the same size as the DL3 or I would keep it, as for the size of earlier 102 models i have no clue. You can call peninsula and ask them if it will fit your bus.
Making much progress, and I know how all you guys like pictures so here are a few of what's happened so far.
Looking down the hall from the bedroom, wardrobe on the right and side bathroom on the left.
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Here's the doorway into the bathroom
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Hanging walls in the front area
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Mostly finished wall where the dinette and sofa will be going
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That's all for now folks!!
You are inspiring us. We have just started our own second bus conversion, and we are on a fast track as well. We are also using Knottypine :-) I cannot believe how fast you're doing this! Definitely inspiring keep it up
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Quote from: Scott Bennett on May 03, 2016, 07:28:04 PM
We are also using Knottypine :-)
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Actually it is cedar. I did however use knotty pine on the MC8 when I converted it, but I am going to much greater lengths with this one concerning insulation, vapor barrier and thermal separation, and a lot more detailed finish work. Lots of sawdust lol.
Yep, I love the way you're flying along. Please keep the pictures coming -- they're making me feel really bad! ;D
Yeah I just caught that after actually reading your text instead of just drooling over photos :) nice!
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All wiring roughed in, reflectix in place, and begin covering the ceiling in the front area
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In this photo you can see the short little window for the kitchen
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And the last of the ceiling in place and everything covered up
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Today I built the panel for all the electronic gizmos, control panels, breaker panels etc and began wiring it all up. Got the batteries wired up and the inverter bolted in its place. I am taking a break from the woodworking for a few days.
Got all appliances installed on the roof today. 3 air conditioners, 3 fantastic fans with covers, 1 bathroom power vent with cover, tv antenna, and 4 solar panels.
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Got all appliances installed on the roof today. 3 air conditioners, 3 fantastic fans with covers, 1 bathroom power vent with cover, tv antenna, and 4 solar panels.
You are single-handedly putting us all to shame. Tell the truth, is someone whipping you to get things done?
Quote from: DoubleEagle on May 07, 2016, 07:10:06 PM
You are single-handedly putting us all to shame. Tell the truth, is someone whipping you to get things done?
Nope no one riding my tail but me. My wife is a trooper though, she jumps right in and tackles anything I need help with. She's not afraid to get her hands dirty. She doesn't like heights but she didn't hesitate to jump on the roof and manhandle air conditioners.
Your wife and my wife need to meet each other...They sound like they could be sisters
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Quote from: Scott Bennett on May 08, 2016, 05:29:49 AM
Your wife and my wife need to meet each other...They sound like they could be sisters
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Actually I would like to meet you guys sometime. We have similar vocations and it's always nice to be able to fellowship with other believers. It can get pretty lonely on the mission field, especially in tent ministry. Good fellowship is sometimes hard to come by.
We will definitely arrange that at some point! We are kindred hearts :-)
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Quite possibly the two hardest working couples in busdom (new word?), and they both chose MCI's.
Impressive Derrick, lvmci...
Been making a bit of progress lately, of course all the finish work and trim cutting is slow going, but still forging on.
Bedroom pretty much done, just a little trim left around the cabinets
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The body and paint guys started today....laying down the primer.....
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First coat of color going on.....
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Second coat of color going on.....
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Clearcoat done.....
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They come back tomorrow to do the other side, and if time permits they will do a couple stripes.
How much paint mix is being used per coat on that side?
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How much paint mix is being used per coat on that side?
No idea. I can ask him today.
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How much paint mix is being used per coat on that side?
He said right at half a gallon per side
Got the other side painted and put some stripes on, working on stripes on the other side now.
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Amazing how fast you can convert a bus! My jaw is on the floor
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Quote from: Scott Bennett on May 14, 2016, 07:17:34 PM
Amazing how fast you can convert a bus! My jaw is on the floor
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I tell you what Scott, I am starting to feel it. It's been sun up to sun down for a month now, and I will be pushing myself pretty hard to meet my end of the month deadline. Now that the paint is done I can put the windows in, which means a ton more trim to do. I'm almost done with the cabinets, but I still have almost all of the plumbing left to do.
I haven't been on here in a while and was just looking through what you've done. Impressive how much you've gotten done and how good it looks. I guess it helps having done a previous bus and knowing what works and what you want. Good on you, Craig
Quote from: thomasinnv on May 14, 2016, 02:17:38 PM
He said right at half a gallon per side
Thanks, they did not waste very much paint, that is good coverage considering they are painting from top to bottom with no stainless siding.
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Thanks, they did not waste very much paint, that is good coverage considering they are painting from top to bottom with no stainless siding.
He just painted from the upper belt line up, just where I installed new skins. The rest of the bus was painted a year ago so it still looks like new paint.
Got the tile laid in the kitchen and bathroom yesterday. Gonna grout and trim the edge of the counters today and hopefully get all the appliances and sinks installed.
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Here's the temporary sofa and dinette (we will be installing a new leather jacknife sofa and matching dinette booth this winter as funds and time allows).
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Kitchen with tile finished and trimmed, and all appliances installed.
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hi Derrick, seems like you split the kitchen and living room up front. my 5A had a front kitchen, a center living room, with a hatch inside to the front bay, when it came time for the 102C3, my wife wanted a middle kitchen, I liked the front kitchen, tom, lvmci...
Getting close to launch date. 5 days left i think we are going to make it.
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Got all the window covers on and all the awnings mounted. The wife has it about half packed already.
Phenomenal speed, you may have set a record from empty shell to ready to go conversion. Are you still aching from all that work?
It's amazing how fast he converted that. Honestly it's an inspiration that you don't need to take years to do a conversion.
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Remarkable.
A friend of mine a few years ago converted a bus over the winter, just working evenings and week-ends. Cost him his girl friend though... she never saw him that winter.
JC
Just curious. How many people working on the conversion? Just you and the wife? I thought my friend and his wife doing their Prevost in 6 months was fast, but guys are phenomenal!
GaryD
95 percent of the time just me, but when I need a second set of hands my wife is all over it.
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Phenomenal speed, you may have set a record from empty shell to ready to go conversion. Are you still aching from all that work?
I literally melt into my lazyboy in the evening and my wife has to wake me up to go to bed lol. I almost always beat the sun up in the morning, but it takes me a few minutes to get going. I cannot stop and rest much during the day, more than 5 minutes sitting down and I am sawing logs. When we get back on the road i may just go park in the mountains and sleep for 3 days straight.
Looks like the brain whipped the body to get it done - congratulations!
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Spent the last 2 nights in the bus, no issues and everything works flawlessly. We will be hitting the road Tuesday morning just as the sun says good morning. I am probably 95% complete, just lacking a few details and fine tuning. Need to finish out the steps, build some night stands, install a few cabinet door latches and other things like that. These things will have to wait because we have revival dates set and we gotta get there.
Well we have been in the bus and on the road for a few weeks now with no issues and momma is happy with the new rolling home. I dug into the rear high-rise system and got it working again, a simple wiring correction. I also investigated into the self steering of the tag axle, $600 of parts on the way and all should be well again. Will be nice to get it working again. I have a little rocker cover leak that popped up, boy is Detroit proud of those gaskets. I would have just ordered them through ebay and saved $70 but when you're travelling it's nice to be able to walk in to the counter and walk out with your necessary parts and roll on down the highway. She runs awesome and the 60 series really does flatten out them hills. What a joy to drive compared to the old MC8. Which by the way will be available for sale when I get back in the fall.
What's a high rise system?
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I think he talking about the kneeling system feature on the D
Hi-rise is the opposite of kneeling, for the rear of the coach.
Raises the back side to improve clearance.
The 45 footers love dragging their asses on the ground entering/exiting driveways that aren't flat.
A busnut will definitely want that working, and understand when to use it!
happy coaching!
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Thanks BW I have that switch and had no idea what it was for but it works I just checked it and looks like mine raises 4 to 5 inches
Cliff, a little fyi...if the high rise is active when you flip the manual tag lock switch it also disables the auto lowering function. Both systems are connected to the speed switch.
Mine is interlocked into the kneeling some way I have to figure the deal out they are both at the same place at the entrance door and the tag lock is on the dash .Right now I am trying to figure out how you remove the Webasto they have mounted in the engine compartment to the floor as I don't need it with the Oasis heating
Should be mounted to a bracket, if you still have the access from the inside it would be much easier to get to. Factory has an access panel over the webasto. I need a fuel pump for mine. Gonna sell yours?
The kneeling system should not be interconnected to the tag systems, at least not from factory. What year is your DL3? The earlier year high rise systems were not connected to the speed switch. I can't remember the cutoff but I think it was around '95 or '96. If you remove the kneeling system like i did there are some airlines you will have to reroute around the relay valve above the front axle and a few others that connect to the controls and the supply tank.
i am keeping the kneeling system because I don't want a step hanging under the door and they are good to help with leveling, then I may not need it when I get my HWH system installed
Are you going with the hydraulic/air combo or just air? I am going to install the HWH air system this winter.
I am going with the Active Air System lol 8 grand for the hydraulic system is a little pricey but nice I had those on the Eagle
Have you priced it? Where are you getting it from?
How much for the Active Air?
I put a call in to my guy at HWH but he's out until tomorrow.
I received the parts I needed to restore the self steering function this morning. Upon inspection i find that the piston on the lock cylinder is broken and the pin is no longer attached. They are checking to see if they have another one they can send me. It's always something isn't it?
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How much for the Active Air?
I don't know yet I purchased mine through a Prevost converter in Phoenix,HWH won't sell to the public any longer when I get the bill I will let you know
Quote from: luvrbus on June 17, 2016, 03:05:09 PM
I don't know yet I purchased mine through a Prevost converter in Phoenix,HWH won't sell to the public any longer, when I get the bill I will let you know. The bill may cause the big one ;D
Quote from: luvrbus on June 17, 2016, 03:05:09 PM
I don't know yet I purchased mine through a Prevost converter in Phoenix,HWH won't sell to the public any longer when I get the bill I will let you know
I have a dealer account with HWH but I haven't priced the system yet, I've only bought parts from them for repairing systems. If i ever get a call back from my sales rep i will let you know what my price is.
Clifford I will get the paddles ready!... :D
Dave
Been working on the steerable tag system. I have it mostly back together but still have a few issues to work out. I have installed the lock cylinder and all the reed switches, reconnected all the airlines to the appropriate locations, and tested everything out. The locking function operates as it should, but I still have some work to do on the latching mechanism. One set of roller guides and the retracting pin is completely gone, and the tongue plate is bent out of shape pretty bad. The lower roller guides are in pretty bad shape. More parts on the way from MCI. Still having a problem with the speed switch but I think I have it narrowed down to either the speed sensor or an atec problem. For now i have bypassed the speed switch and just leave the system disabled. Much fun.
It will be worth the time and money Derrick I love mine makes a 45 ft seem like driving 30 footer but watch the tail swing it will get you lol I found that out
Hey cliff any idea on a oem part number for the speed sensor on the B500? Mci wants over 300 for it.
Mine uses a 29509637 I forgot the price but it was under a 100 bucks with the 29543433 turbine speed sensor
I found one brand new on the e place. I would assume mine would be the same as yours, they're only a few years difference?
A little info on this Clifford (or anyone else that might have some insight)...
I was having an issue with the speed switch not functioning. With engine running and parked I was not getting 24v at the nc terminal so i replaced the speed switch with a new overstock item from a bus parts supplier. Same problem. I am seeing 24v at the sensor terminal. Not sure how this is supposed to work but it seems odd to me, I would think that the sensor would send a pulse of some kind, or variable resistance or variable voltage, not a constant voltage. I removed the sensor wire and verified that the 24v is being fed from the sensor wire and not backfeeding through the speed switch. So i am thinking that the problem is some where between the trans sensor and the speed switch. The sensor wire comes directly from the trans control module so i would assume either a bad sensor, or less likely a problem with the control module. I would think that if there was a problem with the speed sensor that i would get a code from the trans? There are no codes and there are no other issues with the trans, everything seems to work as it should aside from the speed switch circuit. I'm at a loss here. I can manually energize the steering systems (lock and latching both) and everything works as it should. Any thoughts? I'm thinking 35.00 for a speed sensor is pretty cheap troubleshooting. The thing that concerns me is the 24v coming from the control module, seems odd but what do I know.
Made a few repairs over the last few weeks. Replaced valve cover gasket and isolators to stop leaking valve cover. Still have a very small leak, I think it's the pan gasket. The isolators are blown out pretty bad so a new set of isolators would probably stop the leak. Several hundred miles driven and very little oil on the back of the rig. Almost negligible. Certainly not like the old 2 stroke.
Finally got the rest of the new parts installed for the self steering tag. Had to do some welding on the horn, there were no wear plates installed and the steel was badly worn from the latch mechanism. Filled in the worn spots and installed all new wear plates, new latch arm and both sets of rollers. Everything works as it should now. Clifford you were not exaggerating one bit. It makes a huge difference in the turning radius and yes you really do need to watch the tail swing.