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Title: Scenic cruiser
Post by: mikke60 on March 30, 2016, 06:41:43 AM
Could someone tell me if an older(60s) i think
GMC is unibody construction like my 5a?
Looking to do another conversion, but want to
Be able to get my motorcycle onboard.
Thanks,mike
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: uncle ned on March 30, 2016, 07:46:05 AM


Look for a 4107 or 08 for a 35 foot coach or a 4905 for a 40 foot coach.

has bays big enough for about any motorcycle.  All you have to do is let the handle bars down.

And yes they ar uni body and mostly aluminum.

uncle Ned
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: Lee Bradley on March 30, 2016, 07:53:47 AM
You could go with a Neoplan Spaceliner they have 45" high bays.
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: pabusnut on March 30, 2016, 08:20:05 AM
Ned,

I am still trying to figure out how to stuff my Goldwing in the center bay of my 4905 ;) :D ;D

Steve
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: RJ on March 30, 2016, 09:13:24 AM
Mike -

All GMC transit and highway model buses are monocoque, aka unibody construction.

Also, the PD4501 is known as the Scenicruiser - one word, not two.

FWIW & HTH. . .

;)
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: TomC on March 30, 2016, 11:40:36 AM
Neoplan has too many German parts-stick with GMC.
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: uncle ned on March 30, 2016, 02:07:07 PM


Steve it would be easier to put a real Honda in than a gold wing.

Think Jack had one "a real Honda car" at one time that went in his eagle.

I live in the dirt bike and old English world for bikes

uncle Ned
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: Scott & Heather on March 30, 2016, 02:15:43 PM
Anything can be done. A guy had his motorcycle in his luggage bay of his Silver Eagle at the Arcadia rally one year.


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Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: chessie4905 on March 30, 2016, 05:54:07 PM
My Honda pee pee wing fits in my 4905.  http://media.photobucket.com/user/racer32/media/minibike/CT70.jpg.html?filters (http://media.photobucket.com/user/racer32/media/minibike/CT70.jpg.html?filters)[term]=ct70%20trail%2070&filters[primary]=images&filters[secondary]=videos&sort=1&o=0.
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: lvmci on March 30, 2016, 06:22:37 PM
hi Mike, I  was going to get a MCI 102A3 or C3 with a handicap elevator, and park the bike in the living room to transport it, the elevator can handle between 700 to 1100 lbs electric wheel chairs with passenger, lvmci...
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: DoubleEagle on March 30, 2016, 07:13:34 PM
I love the old Scenicruisers, they are what started my interest in buses, but they do not make a practical conversion base. There are some excellent restorations and custom versions out there, but the owners were either very handy and/or wealthy. One nice feature that they had was the way the lower part of the baggage doors would form a ramp for access. On any of the other buses mentioned, if the motorcycle will not fit easily by turning down the handlebars, consider having a  slide-out tray with a jig mount to hold the bike at an angle. I did a similar thing to accommodate an outboard motor in my Eagle.
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: pd4501-771 on April 01, 2016, 03:27:56 PM
You mean like this?
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 01, 2016, 06:20:16 PM
Quote from: pd4501-771 on April 01, 2016, 03:27:56 PM
You mean like this?

Exactly - brings back fond memories. It's a shame they overloaded those bays at times and broke their backs!
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: kyle4501 on April 01, 2016, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: DoubleEagle on April 01, 2016, 06:20:16 PM
Exactly - brings back fond memories. It's a shame they overloaded those bays at times and broke their backs!

But, they were able to fix them & keep them in revenue service.

A GM engineer told me it wasn't the weight that gave the most problems, but the flexing induced by turning left & right on twisty roads.

Besides, they were very light coaches, the one I scrapped was 25,000 lbs - not bad for a 10 wheeler.
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: RJ on April 02, 2016, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: kyle4501 on April 01, 2016, 08:58:30 PM
A GM engineer told me it wasn't the weight that gave the most problems, but the flexing induced by turning left & right on twisty roads.

That brings up an interesting thought:

With all the engineering know-how available today (CAD drawings, finite analysis, etc.) can you imagine what a NEW Scenicruiser would be like?  Same body style, but all that new engineering under the skin? 

FWIW & HTH. . .

;)
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: chessie4905 on April 02, 2016, 06:06:12 PM
They made a new Scenicruiser... It was/is called the4905.
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: pd4501-771 on April 02, 2016, 09:01:36 PM
I really like the Buffalos, but would not consider them comparable with a Scenic. Same with MC-7s....I like em, but not a Scenic either in my opinion.
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: TomC on April 02, 2016, 09:07:06 PM
Be really neat if they brought out a new updated PD-4501. 102" wide, flat floors, independent front air suspension, air disc brakes, 500hp DD13, 12spd MB transmission, maybe even 45ft. Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Scenic cruiser
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 03, 2016, 08:42:55 AM
That would be a great idea. How about a 45 footer with double steering axles, full tandems, increased storage bays with roller beds or slide-outs for cargo hauling, maybe even use super singles for tires with a 55,000 lb. gross weight. Keep the same classic shape, but make it as streamlined as possible. Maybe somebody could sweet talk Fedex or UPS into considering it for package and people hauling. Come to think of it, no, I don't want to see a brown Scenicruiser, or just travel at night quickly. The Mexican Setra's have similar qualities, maybe they can be persuaded.