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Title: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on March 29, 2016, 05:44:04 PM
Ok , life has thrown me a few curves in the past 2 years but God has blessed me as of late and I have booked my one way ticket to Fla to get my girl .
I leave next Wed the 6 th  and will spend a few day re acquainting myself with her . She`s at JB`s Bus in Bushnell Fla as he`s wrapping the safety inspection and new sneakers all around and Fri or Sat  the 8 or 9th and with great care and intrepidation I will put her into 1st and start the journey !
  Heading to Perry GA first to visit friends, then to Walterboro SC to do the same then have potential stops in Va and or MD .
   I will be solo as Iv`e been most of my life so it is the norm. I will teach myself as I go the art of downshifting as so far I have been unable to
  do so . But my confidence ,the handy downshifting document on this forum and my multiple conversations with ole spicer shifting truckers I feel some what good about my chances ! :-)
  I am looking for any advise on anything including routes to NH . I know the 95 all the way route and the 95 to 270 outa Washington to  15 to 81 to 84 etc.....
Also, any aps for truckers I can put on my android phone that is any better than the Google maps gps already have.
So I just wana let you great folks know I`ll be headn to the north and to wave if ya see me cruisin !!

   
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: MB LeMirage on March 29, 2016, 07:18:06 PM
Happy shifting and a safe journey.
Ryan.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: travelingfools on March 29, 2016, 07:30:27 PM
Sounds like a fantastic adventure, I'm jelious....safe journeys 
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: pabusnut on March 29, 2016, 07:34:26 PM
Lou,

After you pass Richmond, VA, take 17 at Fredricksburg to get up to 15.  There are a few lights, and stop and go for a while, but it is better than being stopped on 495 and 270, which can happen for no apparent reason.  It is a nice drive through the country, and you will not miss anything important!

Steve
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: DoubleEagle on March 29, 2016, 08:42:12 PM
One thing I would recommend is to not rely on Google maps alone for route planning. To shave off a few miles, Google will have you make multiple turns on streets that are not appropriate for trucks or buses, and, there is the lack of low clearance warnings. Programs that are designed for commercial trucks would be safest.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: RJ on March 29, 2016, 09:46:06 PM
Quote from: lou432 on March 29, 2016, 05:44:04 PM
I will teach myself as I go the art of downshifting, as so far I have been unable to do so. But with my confidence, the handy downshifting document on this forum, and my multiple conversations with ole spicer shifting truckers, I feel somewhat good about my chances!

Lou -

No shifting document on this forum, I think you meant the one over on busnut.com.

I know - I wrote it!

Good luck with your new toy, once you get the hang of it, you'll thoroughly enjoy it.

FWIW & HTH. . .

;)
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: Charles Seaton on March 30, 2016, 04:17:09 AM
Really sounds like a great trip! Drive carefully, have fun and go around New York City.  I only drive it because I live here but I would never route anyone through it.

-  Seaton
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Post by: chessie4905 on March 30, 2016, 04:24:18 AM
Wazup  or Waz app is very useful. Individuals report police, accidents, broken down vehicles, etc.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: chessie4905 on March 30, 2016, 04:51:15 AM
Avoid having to  start out from a stop on a steep grade. Is hard on the clutch. Keep it geared down on steep grades and be careful not to allow engine rpms to exceed more speed than it goes when accelerating in that particular gear. Stop frequently a first to check over any serious issues, like oil or fuel, or air leaks, etc. Issues will more like show up sooner in the start. You can spread them out late. Taking it easy going home would be better than running flat out against the governor helps avoid issues on first trip but whatever....good luck. Take a pair of new fuel filters along and install new before you start.. Don't forget to frequently check oil level on the trip. Let it set at least 5 minutes to let oil drain back to pan for accurate reading. I would take along 2 gallons of  40w oil and 2  gallons of coolant and 5 gallons of water,rags,some basic hand tools. A service call on the interstate could be very costly. Fortunately the weather is cooler now so you hopefully won't have overheating issues. Oh, and don't lug the engine on a grade with full power applied more than a brief time. I'm sure I'm missing some things but this should be a start. Make sure you get a set of shop manuals for it after yo get home.Have the bus company tutor you on replacing fuel filters out on the road just in case.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: blue_goose on March 30, 2016, 05:56:40 AM
Just a little out of your way, but a good time to meet lots of us Nuts.  The Southeast Bus Nuts rally is in SC starting on the 13th of April.  Check it out on the web at sebusnuts.org. 
Jack
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: Oonrahnjay on March 30, 2016, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: pabusnut on March 29, 2016, 07:34:26 PM
Lou,

After you pass Richmond, VA, take 17 at Fredricksburg to get up to 15.  There are a few lights, and stop and go for a while, but it is better than being stopped on 495 and 270, which can happen for no apparent reason.  It is a nice drive through the country, and you will not miss anything important!

Steve 

     Yeah, do whatever you need to do to miss the DC area traffic mess (I lived there off and on for about 25 years and it's only gotten worse and worse over time). 
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Post by: Jim Eh. on March 30, 2016, 10:20:37 AM
If you are in the process of having new rubber put on make sure you re-torque the wheels nuts in 100 then again at 500 miles.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: TomC on March 30, 2016, 11:43:13 AM
I always have enough Delo 100 sae40 with me to do an oil change on the road. Also have additional oil and fuel filters. Carrying the weight of extra alternators, starters, bulk of an air filter is not necessary. Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on March 30, 2016, 03:28:35 PM
Damn !! not sure I wana go now!!?? Just kidding !!:-) Lots to remember but I`ll spend 2-3 days at JB`s gathering stuff on my list and adding some suggestions from you all before I pull out .
   I`m guessing a torque wrench is in order ,oil I knew about I believe I still have 2 gallons from last trip . Oil, filters,hoses and belts all replaced . I`ll get xtra fuel filters .
Did not have Tach in bus when I dropped her off at JB`s but he talked of putting one in as I had room in the dash. So as is , I gota listen to the engine rpms and fine tune my down shifting as I go.

  I thought I copied and pasted the shifting doc from here in a tread someone else posted but cant find on my spawn of Satan windows 8!!!
I`ll look on busnuts  .
I am taking on some life  changing stuff as of late ,career change, relocating to Syracuse NY area, driving a 66 stainless steel  frikin bus 1300 miles and cant downshift it  as of today .... All heck I`m all in !!!! Lets get this show on the road!!! 
Thanks for the well wishes and suggestions ! Keep`m coming if ya got`m !
BTW, Ima gona avoid NYC and DC like the plague !!! Mountains or no mountains!
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: DoubleEagle on March 30, 2016, 06:58:35 PM
You are really in for an adventure - you will either end up becoming one with the bus and proud of your new skills, or you will regret ever thinking of doing this. One thing is for sure, if you get stuck in stop and go traffic a lot, your left leg will end up being stronger. I took my 4 speed Spicer Model 05 Eagle through New Jersey and across the George Washington Bridge through Manhattan and on to Long Island back in the nineties when they were repaving. I had air-assist on the clutch linkage, but I still got pretty sore. I would go to neutral a lot to rest my leg.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: Oonrahnjay on March 31, 2016, 08:03:49 AM
Quote from: lou432 on March 30, 2016, 03:28:35 PM...  BTW, Ima gona avoid NYC and DC like the plague !!! Mountains or no mountains!

     Good plan.   From Florida, I'd get up to I-77 near Charlotte (details vary whether eastern, western or panhandle FL) but that doesn't matter.  Then I-77 to I-81 up to near Syracuse.  There is a big grade on I-77 near the NC - VA line; if you don't like that, you can take I-85 from Charlotte to Greensboro then up US-29 to I-81 near Roanoke or Charlottesville VA.  Harrisburg is no fun at rushhour but it's nothing compared to DC/NYC and the PA mountains on I-81 are reasonable.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: pabusnut on March 31, 2016, 09:17:44 AM
If you don't know where that big grade is on I-77, Don't stop at the rest area/visitor center to find out----It starts on the exit ramp ;D

Ask me how I know---
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: Bill B /bus on March 31, 2016, 05:13:23 PM
I95 to I26 to I77 to I81. Least shifting. But the hill at Fancy Gap will test your downshifting. Avoid Harrisburg, Scranton, at rush hour. Not terrible, just slow.

Enjoy your trip,
Bill
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: pabusnut on March 31, 2016, 05:41:23 PM
I made it up Fancy gap at about 47 in third---could have gone faster, but in the rain/fog, I didn't want to be THAT GUY passing a tractor trailer only going 3 mph slower than me!

Uncle Ned told me I'd probably be in 2nd at 30 mph! ;D :D
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: uncle ned on April 01, 2016, 07:57:07 AM


hUGGY Goes up Fancy Gap at 55 to 60 in a cold freezing rain.

on a 80 degree day she goes up at about 30 in 2 gear.

The temperature gauge controls the speed more than the hill.

uncle ned
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: Seangie on April 03, 2016, 08:16:23 AM
One of our first trips in the bus was 95 up to Boston (2012). We took 81 to 84 to stay off the tolls.  It will give your bus a good run at driving in the hills. Its a pretty drive though. We did the toll roads up 95 last year and it cost us about 220$ going up the NJ turnpike and over the bridges in NYC.

When we went up it was the thursday before memorial day and it was freezing, sleeting, snowing and we had no heat and a generator that wasnt yet hooked up.

Hooking up the genny was my first roadside "repair".  We had no air on the windshield and it kept fogging up the whole way.

On the way back 10 days later it was 95 degrees and no rain in sight.  We had no ac and it was a miserably hot drive.

We tried to go up in one day and back in one day.  We learned that driving more than 5 or 6 hours in a day is not fun. Also that a 12 hour drive in a car is an 18 hour drive in a bus.  Now we try and plan 3-4 hour drives and those can sometimes turn into 8 hour drives.

Buy a temp gun and make sure your gauges match your thermostat blocks on the engine.  Once you learn how to drive your bus by temp you are good to go.

Also - as others have said...  keep an eye on your oil consumption.  Also make sure you give it a good 4-5 hour drive in the hot sun before you get too far to bring it back.  Better to know somethings wrong before you get too far int OK your trip.

Have fun!

-Sean
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 04, 2016, 01:48:14 PM
Thanks Ya`ll ,  Im gona Leave Bushnell Thursday of Friday and head 250 miles to Unadilla GA , via 75 N for a day to visit friends then head east on 16 to 95 N to Waltersboro SC,another 250 or so  for a day then leap on 95 N to Fredricksburg VA to 17 to 81 to 84 outa Scranton to 90 to 190 to 290 to 2 to 13 into Milford NH Where I currently live .
I have my temp gun packed already , not sure if the road heat works , If it is cold ?  I know the roof air works and the gen works and shes all electric heat inside .
Please describe where/what  T-stat block is??
I was kinda thinking that it would be like driving my MC cross country. Stop every hundred or so and takes 3 times longer than a car.
I have 9 days to make the trip safely before my new career starts so praying she holds strong and God rides shotgun .
 
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: pabusnut on April 04, 2016, 04:02:08 PM
Lou,

When I picked up my 4905 in Minnesota, I drove up from PA in my little diesel VW Rabbit, and my "copilot" was my 14 year old son.  On the way back, he laughed so hard at me trying to double clutch that I thought he was going to die laughing.  I banished him to the rear of the bus where I hoped I couldn't hear him laughing.

As a navigator, he wasn't half bad, except for putting me into Chinatown in Chicago on the way up.  Fortunately on the way back he was better at coordinating the signs and maps.

Steve
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Post by: johnjem on April 04, 2016, 04:36:52 PM
Give me a shout when u get home. Would love to check it ! Johnjem84@gmail. I am over jn brentwood nh


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Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 09, 2016, 06:26:40 PM
Finaly Leaving for first leg of trip /250 miles in the morning . Any Prayers my way would be appreciated !!
I'll keep yall in the loop ! Thanks!!
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Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on April 09, 2016, 08:55:11 PM
keep in mind that the lug nuts on the drivers side are left hand threads.....should have a "L" on the end of them....
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Post by: lou432 on April 10, 2016, 05:33:12 AM
Thanks Ed! Somewhere in the back of my mind I knew that but thanks for the refresh! Haven't left yet and probably won't till early afternoon hopefully brake lights are staying on and too late last night to check.
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Post by: thomasinnv on April 10, 2016, 07:56:10 AM
Do keep in mind that as long as the park brake is set, the brake lights will stay on.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 10, 2016, 04:48:09 PM
3 hours at 75 miles an hour she ran like a top :-) my first stop in Lenox Georgia I set the ICC break shut her down when in did my thing came back out prank your backup release the ICC break she was sluggish I pushed her a little bit then I smell something pulled over on Highway and I believe the ICC break did not disengage. have Coach net on their way. I'm guessing if they can back the brake shoes off a half a turn and as long as I didn't blow a diaphragm I should be okay???
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 10, 2016, 05:05:56 PM
If the air pressure was up fully, they should have released. Did you hear any air leaks at the brake canisters? If the brakes were not adjusted correctly you would have experienced trouble before now.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 10, 2016, 05:24:28 PM
Hundred and twenty pounds when I release the ICC break but sitting on the side of the road right now I just aired up again and release the ICC heard what seems to be a small continuous hiss of air. Coming from the ICC button slash/ valve below the steering wheel???
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 10, 2016, 06:27:03 PM
The valve or an air line could be your problem. Try tightening any connections that you have access to. There might be a crack in an airline. If you can partially release the brakes at least and need to get to a better spot, just go slower until the brakes get hot, then let it cool down, and then go again. It is dangerous to be on the side of a busy road, especially after dark. Depending on where you are, some busy body policeman might order that you be towed if he thinks you are a hazard.
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Post by: DoubleEagle on April 10, 2016, 06:33:05 PM
Did CoachNet get anybody to you yet?
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Post by: luvrbus on April 10, 2016, 06:45:44 PM
The MCI 5 has DD-3 chambers leaking air at the parking brake valve is usually a blown diagram in one of the DD-3 chambers   

good luck 
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Post by: Dave5Cs on April 10, 2016, 07:33:47 PM
If you find the one that is leaking you can clamp the supply line or cap it with a plug after pulling it loose from the can and get it to air up and get it to a safe place to fix it.
Dave5Cs
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 11, 2016, 06:34:42 PM
Okay, five hours waiting from phone call to service truck arrival. Mechanic crawls underneath after he talks Wheels looks around instructs me to chalk the wheels so I do. Then he says go in the bus release the ICC and jam on the brakes twice as hard as you can now he said remove the shocks and see if you can move forward. I did and the problem was fixed so. It's happened to more times today and I just hit the break once or twice and was able to move down the road. Said something about the break shoe wear being close to 50 or 75% and the S cam rolling over at some. Butt I am in Walterboro South Carolina to the night visiting a childhood friend I haven't seen for 40 years. It was so great to catch up and  his family
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Post by: oltrunt on April 11, 2016, 06:40:57 PM
Crazy tale.  Glad you got going again.  When you get a chance, let us dummies know exactly what happened.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 11, 2016, 06:48:40 PM
Thanks for letting us know what happened, I was getting worried that some sleepy truck driver had plowed into you while you were sitting there waiting for road service. You were lucky that the mechanic sized up the situation quickly. It is hard to help someone by computer. The hissing at the ICC valve is gone?
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Post by: gumpy on April 11, 2016, 07:24:57 PM
You are aware that to release the paring brakes you need to push in the button and then do a full application of the foot pedal, right?  Just pushing in the button may
not release the locks in the DD3 chambers.

Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 12, 2016, 11:57:01 AM
Gumpy, I am acutely aware of that now! That is pretty much what the road mechanic had me do. I did not realize until just moments ago I look down as I'm driving at this》》》》 I hope the attachment comes out. I just went through Fayetteville North Carolina in the rain wipers are working great this little Jewel hums at 75 miles an hour water temp has never exceeded 155 oil pressure is 90 + and air is between100 and  110  while in operation.
And I have been slowly but surely downshifting when needed! Feeling confident now but the first day or two I was white-knuckling for sure! On the road again. Hoping to make it to Virginia by Nightfall
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Post by: niles500 on April 12, 2016, 03:26:23 PM
I'd be wary of those gauge readouts, they don't seem to fall in parameters for temp and pressure. FWIW
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Post by: lou432 on April 12, 2016, 05:14:38 PM
Niles, was a bit curious on the gauges as well , I do know  the temperature reading in the rear is the same as the front. So I'm guessing that's redundant and confirmation? Oil pressure I know is questionable though so far approximately 800 miles and I have burned through about a half a gallon of oil. Air pressure , have had no issues with brakes braking or any of the operations ,windshield wipers ran most of the day. And still kept at between 90 and 110.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 12, 2016, 05:49:34 PM
The water temp gauge must be off. When you are climbing grades it never gets above 155? Not natural.
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Post by: lou432 on April 12, 2016, 06:44:45 PM
Not sure what to say to that! Not sure what type of grade  would make the temperature go up  but I stuck to  95  North  out of Savannah Georgia . I'll be getting on  81  off of 66  from Fredericksburg tomorrow .  I'm sure I will have some  better grades there as I'm used to going that way  up 81 - 84 - 90  in a car. I will keep a closer eye on the temperature gauge. Still a newbie:-) or maybe I'm reading the water gauge wrong? Heck I didn't even notice the ICC brake procedure that was  on a red plaque right in front of me the whole time I'm driving.
 
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Post by: chessie4905 on April 12, 2016, 07:04:07 PM
Should be running between 170 and 180 degrees. Does the radiator have shutters? Make sure to check coolant level in morning after it cools off.
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Post by: niles500 on April 12, 2016, 08:01:04 PM
Sorry, to clarify, oil pressure was high, air pressure was fine
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Post by: Dave5Cs on April 12, 2016, 09:10:19 PM
Oil Pressure should be 40 to 50 when moving on hyway. Check the oil dip stick on a paper towel to see if any coolant in it. Probably not but won't hurt.
Does sound like gauges are off. Brake thing also sounds like they need grease at your DD3 's when you get home. 1 good pull and work your adjusters back and forth. your "S" cams need grease or out of adjustment and they are worn.
Watch any smoke coming out of the tail pipe going down the road, a lot, a little, white, grey, blue or just black. If it is Black back off a little, your giving it to much fuel.
Just some observations from what you have said. Safe trip to you Lou.
Dave5Cs
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Post by: lou432 on April 13, 2016, 06:03:10 PM
Well, there are many  gauges on the dash most of which are inoperable but I thought all of them were. But one of them I believe is oiland  working but it's not indicated oil pressure but it's at about 40 or 45 depending on grade. I haven't seen any smoke in any situation grade or otherwise. Nearly 1,100 miles and I've only gone through 3 quarts. And I did put her hard up the grades on 81 thru VA and  on 84 which is where I'm at now in Milford Pennsylvania.
Yes greasing the DD3'S it was mentioned by the road mechanic and when I call John at Eagle classic coach where some work  was done he  said the same.
I will have rear brakes checked ASAP can I return 2 New Hampshire.
  So am I wrong to think that front and rear gauges and laser temp gun are all within 10 degrees 155-170 is ok? And no smoke and new found presumed oil gauge along with burning 3 quarts so far is good?
  I do know my compressor and brakes are working!!  I had  to use them a couple of times traffic !!!!  Scared me a bit!! But she stopped on a dime:-)
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Post by: DoubleEagle on April 13, 2016, 06:12:39 PM
If the temperature gauges and the laser gun agree, then maybe the previous owner took the thermostat out to provide more cooling in hot weather. If it is running at 155-170 it is not at optimum temperature for best fuel economy and power. You must be getting comfortable with your coach by now and the shifting is second nature, right?
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Post by: lou432 on April 13, 2016, 07:23:55 PM
Walter, never thought about the thermostat! Guess I'll check that out when I get home to :-) along with all the other little kinks that I have realized throughout the trip. I did a rough calculation yesterday on mileage so far and was running about 6.75 miles per gallon but I will have a much better idea when I finally make it home and fill it up. And yes the downshifting has gotten much better I know the sweet spots now although along with the clutch needing to be adjusted I believe? As she doesn't engage until she's  2/3 at the top , Plus My technique needing honed  a little more , I still grind a little bit but a far cry from my first several hundred miles! I feel comfortable behind the wheel now! At 75 or 15 miles an hour.
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Post by: Beesme on April 14, 2016, 03:42:20 AM
Glad 2 c u r almost back !! Good luck rest of way . I remember bringin mine back that route ... It was a blast .
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 14, 2016, 06:43:34 AM
Quote from: lou432 on April 13, 2016, 07:23:55 PM
Walter, never thought about the thermostat! Guess I'll check that out when I get home to :-) along with all the other little kinks that I have realized throughout the trip. I did a rough calculation yesterday on mileage so far and was running about 6.75 miles per gallon but I will have a much better idea when I finally make it home and fill it up. And yes the downshifting has gotten much better I know the sweet spots now although along with the clutch needing to be adjusted I believe? As she doesn't engage until she's  2/3 at the top , Plus My technique needing honed  a little more , I still grind a little bit but a far cry from my first several hundred miles! I feel comfortable behind the wheel now! At 75 or 15 miles an hour.

Well, you really have survived your baptism of fire. 6.75 mpg might be a little low, but then you were not always going 55-60. I used to live in Northern New Hampshire (Littleton), we used to envy the folks in balmy southern NH.
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Post by: Beesme on April 14, 2016, 09:18:44 AM
Littleton yes been many times have friends there i ususlly stay at rogers campground in lancaster ! Agree southern nh another 10deg warmer haha
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Post by: DoubleEagle on April 14, 2016, 05:47:12 PM
Quote from: Beesme on April 14, 2016, 09:18:44 AM
Littleton yes been many times have friends there i ususlly stay at rogers campground in lancaster ! Agree southern nh another 10deg warmer haha

I moved from there in 1986 after I sold my trucking business, but I have been back several times. I miss it a lot, the spring peepers should be starting up, and the frost heaves should be settling down by now. I have been to Rogers, but my favorite is the Lake Umbagog State Park past Errol. Lots of fish and bald eagles.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 14, 2016, 06:48:07 PM
Well I just got back this afternoon at 3 p.m. safe and sound! My total miles traveled is 1589 and total gallons used were ,213.294.  averages out at about 7.5  miles per gallon. Less than I hoped for but more than I heard of but I did ride her at 75 miles per hour 2/3 or more of the way. I discovered a lot about her ways and things that need to be addressed. 1 high on the list at the moment is a leak  I believe in the right rear air bags? As two mornings I woke to her listing hard on that side and would not start because of low oil sensor and had to have coach-net air me up twice. Two different locations same issue. So the brakes and the air up are the only two issues I had over the trip So I feel quite fortunate and blessed!
   Other issues are the brake,slack adjusters/S cam greaseing, non-functioning gauges, steering fill thingamabob is leaking I think it's just fittings .Leak on drivers side wind shield rubber,dry rot I'm sure. No lights on dash,some running lights and low beam headlight out, genset is only putting out 10.5 or so amps and not switching on for house. Genset Diesel engine works great but electric  part is questionable.  Coach door needs new rubbers/seals windy and loud. Clutch needs adjusting. To mention only a few. And I haven't even looked or know how the plumbing works yet I will figure that out in due time.
  So that's all for now! I'm sure I'll have more things I find as time goes.
  Thanks for all the encouragement  and ideas ya'll !!!
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Post by: oltrunt on April 14, 2016, 07:16:07 PM
Too much fun!  Glad all went well--looks like you picked a winner!

Where are all the pics?  As you know, no pics, it didn't happen :D :D  Jack
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Post by: DoubleEagle on April 15, 2016, 06:00:23 AM
Sounds like a normal 50 year old bus! Keep a to-fix list, it is easy to forget the small details that you become aware of on a long trip. Don't forget to take a picture of that warning plaque about the brake release.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 15, 2016, 06:37:25 PM
Walter, yes I agree I did take notes and sent myself text via my Bluetooth that I brought with me and wrote A Few down on paper when I stop. Most of which I posted above in my last posting. And that warning plaque on the brakes I know I took a picture and it was attached on the posting reply to Craig but I don't see it anywhere in the thread or on my phone?? And I just tried posting a picture one single picture and recall in the past the files are too large and the Forum will not accept them. I'm guessing Forum does not have the capability to automatically resize them if they're too large? So Jack , you'll just have to take my word on it until I can get some pictures posted :-) not that I have many but I do have some.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 15, 2016, 06:47:56 PM
Crossing into Georgia the first day Sunday.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 15, 2016, 06:49:23 PM
Going over the North Carolina line at South of the Border and the front of my bus after I literally hit a massive swarm of bees.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 15, 2016, 06:51:34 PM
Windshield covered in bees that I just spoke of, and a picture of Hartford Connecticut that I sent to my youngest son that's 30 when we used to do the same trip every year and a car and Batman had just started its new movie series we said we were going through Gotham City LOL and his eyes always got big :-) so Hartford Connecticut has always been Gotham City to us :-)
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 15, 2016, 06:53:45 PM
South of the Border :-)
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 15, 2016, 06:55:45 PM
Okay some of these got all messed up I'm not going to even question what went wrong or how I'm tired I'm hitting the sack! Thank you all very very much for being along On my journey! Good night and God bless exclamation
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: chessie4905 on April 16, 2016, 04:24:29 AM
Drove by our church last night. Across from it is a wetland part of farmers field. The peepers were so loud, you could hear them even with windows closed.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 16, 2016, 06:40:37 AM
A few years back I owned a piece of property that has six acres of wetlands and ponds and I had to play my music loud at night while I tried to sleep to drown the sound of the papers out. At that point I wanted to shoot every one of them LOL!
  Picture of the red parking and emergency brakes placard.
If it had been a snake out of the first 10 minutes I got in this bus :-) lesson learned!
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 16, 2016, 07:16:57 AM
Good picture of the placard, I should print it out and put it in my own 84 Eagle. My 75 Eagle does not have that style brake and I can release the parking brake before 100 lbs. and without using the foot pedal. I know it is for safety, but it seems to be a nuisance at times, and it sure wasted your time in Georgia.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 16, 2016, 07:25:09 AM
Quote from: lou432 on April 16, 2016, 06:40:37 AM
A few years back I owned a piece of property that has six acres of wetlands and ponds and I had to play my music loud at night while I tried to sleep to drown the sound of the papers out. At that point I wanted to shoot every one of them LOL!
  Picture of the red parking and emergency brakes placard.
If it had been a snake out of the first 10 minutes I got in this bus :-) lesson learned!

Glad to hear that many people remember those spring peepers. I did not think of them as an annoyance, I just thought about all those poor creatures that were so happy to be out of that deep mud for the winter finally getting loose to live anew. Sort of like dreaming about getting a bus, and then finally getting it on the road! (Can't accuse me of getting off-thread now). 
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 16, 2016, 07:29:41 AM
I'm on my Droid phone and until I touch on the picture I can't read the words ,is the photo really good on your end ?
  5 hours of my time, but boy was I relieved when that's all it was! :-)
That would certainly be confusing to me when one coach it doesn't needs to be done that way and you get in the other and it does.
Darn peepers,and thread jackers !! :-)
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: gumpy on April 16, 2016, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: lou432 on April 14, 2016, 06:48:07 PM
As two mornings I woke to her listing hard on that side and would not start because of low oil sensor and had to have coach-net air me up twice.



Hmmm, I don't recall there being a low oil sensor on these buses. Low oil pressure, yes, but not low level.

Maybe it was an option and I've just not run across one. Regardless, I would think it would be tied into the safety shutdown system,
which means the bus should still start, although if there is air in the system, it might then shut down when you release the start button.
You would also be able to bypass it by disconnecting the wire at the sensor. That is, if you can get to it.


Additionally...
I do see that the MC8 manual shows an optional low oil level sensor tied into the shutdown system. It still should start and as long as you hold the start button in, should continue to run. The caveat to this, though, is that the fuel pressure sensor and starter cutout must be operational or you can burn up the starter or grind the starter drive and flywheel.

I'm also surprised that the oil level would change enough to cause the sensor to register low oil simply by deflating one side.  If it really is due to low oil level, I suspect you may need to calibrate your dipstick.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 17, 2016, 04:06:37 AM
Thanks Craig, that gives me other things to consider. I know the three days I spent at Arcadia two Christmases ago she listed pretty good and she crank and stayed running the next morning.
  First time I encountered it was the second night I stopped. And then again the third night. She continued when I got her back home. I haven't attempted to start her for 2 days now she appears to be aired down and fairly level. I'm going over this morning to see how she acts.
I thought it was just a safety feature show the engine would not get damaged if it was not enough oil.
Please Describe the calibration of the dipstick?
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: gumpy on April 17, 2016, 07:20:50 AM
The first thing you need to do is determine if there is, in fact, a low oil level sensor. It would be located in the oil pan and would have a couple wires coming off it (one for temp, one for level), I believe. Cliff or someone else can correct me on this if I'm mistaken, because I have not actually seen one of these on a Detroit, but it evidently was an option on some models.

If you need to calibrate the dipstick, it's easiest to do it when changing oil. Fill with proper amount, run to fill filter. Let it all run back down and then mark the dipstick. I think there were a couple different oil pans available, so you'll need to know what the proper amount is supposed to be. Someone else will have to help you determine that because again, I don't know enough about the different oil pans.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lostagain on April 17, 2016, 07:45:59 AM
The level should be 1" below the block to pan joint.

JC
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: buswarrior on April 17, 2016, 08:20:05 AM
One thing you might take off the list:

Clutch adjustment

You description of it engaging at 2/3rds sounds right, the pedal is supposed to engage high in a commercial vehicle, a couple inches max from the top position.

And that's all the push you need.

Happy coaching!
buswarrior
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 18, 2016, 11:34:50 AM
Well that's a relief :-) wasn't sure the adjustment on the clutch needed to be done. But again I'm familiar with the coach itself, who knows!
Craig, yeah I'm questioning that oil pan sensor as well although I'm not around the coach 2 figure it out yet. She sat  for 3 days and aired down equally all the way around but still had low oil light on and wouldn't continue running after 30 pounds or less. So I aired her up through the air outlet underneath the driver seat  checking oil and oil was almost a gallon down. Added oil But once I aired up in all situations she would continue to run and not shut off so I thought it was a sensor??

    And to add insult to injury I discovered a broken window in the back that I'm pretty sure I did when I was ten point turning Virginia in a parking lot and backed into some . I will attach a picture the glass will definitely have to be replaced and the little information I have I'm guessing I can get replacement glass for it? And the front windshield leaks so I'll need new rubber there and some other front flat glass on driver side and door as well along with rubber seals for the door my assumption is I can get aftermarket or OEM? .
But didn't see the hole in the glass until last evening when I was topping off the radiator with not quite 3 gallons. I know one thing I need and that's a ladder.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 18, 2016, 11:37:16 AM

1 more picture.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on April 18, 2016, 01:54:14 PM
Luke has some of the rubber that you need,.....might have all of it.   ;D
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: gumpy on April 18, 2016, 06:45:28 PM
Quote from: lou432 on April 18, 2016, 11:34:50 AM
Well that's a relief :-) wasn't sure the adjustment on the clutch needed to be done. But again I'm familiar with the coach itself, who knows!
Craig, yeah I'm questioning that oil pan sensor as well although I'm not around the coach 2 figure it out yet. She sat  for 3 days and aired down equally all the way around but still had low oil light on and wouldn't continue running after 30 pounds or less. So I aired her up through the air outlet underneath the driver seat  checking oil and oil was almost a gallon down. Added oil But once I aired up in all situations she would continue to run and not shut off so I thought it was a sensor??


In general, the oil light on the dash is connected to oil pressure. When you start it, it should be on. If you have air in the system to engage the engine shut down, the correct starting procedure is to hold the start button until the oil pressure light goes out. Otherwise, the low oil pressure will cause the safety shutdown to kill the engine. Again, your fuel pressure starter cutout is supposed to be working in order to disengage the starter while you are holding the button in waiting for the oil pressure light to go out.

Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 18, 2016, 06:59:42 PM
Check your windshield carefully, the leak might be fixable with some black silicone if the rubber has shrunk at the point where the two ends meet. Use a fine straight edge like a razor blade to smooth it to the rubber contour. If the rubber is dry and cracked and is oozing in multiple places, its time for a new molding.
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: lou432 on April 19, 2016, 03:58:04 PM
Walter . The leak in the windshield I'm not real concerned about yes it is a split seem at the very top bad location I think but workable with the right waterproofing product. It's the rear curved window in the picture I attached to the last posting but I need to replace. I'm guessing the Luke would have the right info or product once I contact him.
  And thanks Ed ! I did not know that information about the start button , the starter  and the oil and fuel pressure.  I will review that the next time I'm with the bus ,that should be a few weeks. As I'm doing trade shows in my new career position.
   I truly thank everyone of you folks for your encouragement your offerings of knowledge and riding along with me on my trip it really truly made a difference!
   
Title: Re: Finaly Bringing her home,No really I am !!
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 19, 2016, 08:34:21 PM
Another option on the window might be to replace it with sheet metal if the glass is too pricey.