I have a 1961 GM 4106 with a broken throttle cable.
This not an emergency the bus is in a secure storage location in the Phoenix, AZ area.
I am looking for some advice where I might find some help.
Dwight Binge
206 240 3278
debmlb@msn.com
Call Kevin @602-810-1845 he can fix you up
Put "Morse" or "Teleflex" cables into your search engine.
happy coaching!
buswarrior
He can buy the cable at DDI Equipment on 7th #602-510-7123 they custom make the cables but it's a bear to install
Quote from: luvrbus on March 20, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
He can buy the cable at DDI Equipment on 7th #602-510-7123 they custom make the cables but it's a bear to install
SCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll try and help you. Call me tomorrow. 602-810-1845
Quote from: azdieselman on March 20, 2016, 07:39:25 PM
SCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll try and help you. Call me tomorrow. 602-810-1845
LOL I don't think he wants a 7 or 8 grand throttle cable Kevin
This might be a good application for air controls.
Quote from: azdieselman on March 20, 2016, 08:32:07 PM
This might be a good application for air controls.
If he is smart that is the way to go that cable can be a bitch to remove and replace
I thought GM cables were simple steel cables run inside of steel tubes, pull one out, pull or push the new one through. I know the morse type cable on my MCI was a bear to change, a morse cable fished through tiny holes pierced through many bulkheads. At the end of the day I pulled my old cable back in, and pulled the new cable by bolting it to the old, taping very carefully and lots of grease.
Quote from: bevans6 on March 21, 2016, 04:57:25 AM
I thought GM cables were simple steel cables run inside of steel tubes, pull one out, pull or push the new one through. I know the morse type cable on my MCI was a bear to change, a morse cable fished through tiny holes pierced through many bulkheads. At the end of the day I pulled my old cable back in, and pulled the new cable by bolting it to the old, taping very carefully and lots of grease.
True if the housing is not bad but most are so old wore out and broken you replace it with a Morse cable not fun so people go with the Williams makes life easier
Having a 4104 with the usual added spring at the governor to compensate for the dried-out grease in the cable, and now the XL with air throttle, I'd vote for air! The cable in the 4104 wasn't broken, it was just way heavy because someone had added spring. I removed cable, flushed housing with kerosene, iirc, soaked cable in kerosene and/or solvent, packed in LubriPlate grease and replaced. Removed the added spring, not needed. Worked well.
But if you just want to repair what you have, I hear Luke Bonagura is the go-to guy for parts.
Have fun.
Seriously look at the air throttle. One of the best things I ever did to my bus!
I'm running original linkage (throttle cable) on our 53 4104. From everything I've read and the practical experience over the years it's best to "dry lube" the factory cable. Wet greasing attracts dirt, dust, & traps moisture creates drag thus the need for stronger spring action. After cleaning out the tubing with a evaporating oil-less solvent and using dry graphite to lubricate - the factory cable performs decades later as it was designed to and effortlessly easy.
Thank you everyone for the great response. It sounds that obtaining a new cable
might not be a problem, which is a relief.
What I think caused the cable to break was that the steel tube (conduit) for the cable
separated and unattached at the bulkhead forward of the engine.
I had some roadside repairs that got me to Phoenix. Now I need something more
permanent that I am unable to do my self.
I afraid I need recommendations for a repair shop.