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Title: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: Scott & Heather on January 24, 2016, 05:42:34 PM
CNG Models. Interesting:
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=98&acctid=6644


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Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: Oonrahnjay on January 24, 2016, 08:01:27 PM
      CNG - yeah, they don't want them, either.
Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: MB LeMirage on January 25, 2016, 12:01:48 AM
nice deal....you only have to buy all 6 and pay an extra 10 grand for the tires!!
Ryan.
Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: Scott & Heather on January 25, 2016, 12:34:06 AM
Yeah. Seriously, who wants to deal with all 6. How hard would it be to convert a CNG to diesel? Is that even possible?


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Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: brmax on January 25, 2016, 02:58:36 AM
I can imagine the lowboy/flat bed owners, the calls they are getting.
Curious, does one have to pay fed excise tax on tires again, or actually first time.
I mean where do ya go if you don't want tires on it ?  ::)
Floyd

( still like to have one )
Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: luvrbus on January 25, 2016, 03:22:47 AM
I looked into buying some DL3 with the series 60G engine when Salt Lake sold theirs you are better off to buy another 12.7 non EGR diesel version with a new ECM.
Then you had to remove the CNG tanks and install a fuel tank with all the plumbing it was going to involve to much work for me.
Buying the CNG is not a problem just about all the Pilot/FJ and Waste Management sites have CNG stations. 
You would need it the shop foreman told me 3 to 4 mpg was normal for that engine, when fuel was 4 bucks a gal they were paying under a buck a gal for CNG fwiw   
Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: David Anderson on January 26, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
It amazes me how the government can take something as simple as an auction to dispose of unneeded assets and complicate it by removing tires from a vehicle and make you purchase them separately.  I guess you just can't change stupid ::) No wonder Donald Trump is a breath of fresh air to so many people. :o
Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: luvrbus on January 26, 2016, 02:57:16 PM
Most Gov agencies lease the tires,reading the difference in prices those are leased tires I bet 
Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: Oonrahnjay on January 26, 2016, 03:41:54 PM
Quote from: luvrbus on January 26, 2016, 02:57:16 PMMost Gov agencies lease the tires,reading the difference in prices those are leased tires I bet 

      Yeah, what they're saying is that you'd have to buy the tires that they were leasing.  They can't auction them off because they don't own them.  Doesn't make any difference to how much I want a CNG bus ...
Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: belfert on January 27, 2016, 04:45:52 AM
There is a document linked on the auction page that specifically says the tires are leased by NJ Transit.  You must either pay them a $7,000 deposit and return the tires within three days for a refund, or buy the tires outright for the price listed.
Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: belfert on January 27, 2016, 04:52:48 AM
CNG locally is $2.149 a gallon and diesel is $2.09 per gallon or less.  This doesn't mean that CNG won't be a better deal when diesel goes back up to $4 a gallon someday.
Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: Scott & Heather on January 27, 2016, 12:22:08 PM
I paid $1.50 for diesel here in Texas


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Title: Re: Six 1999 MCI 102D buses auctioning
Post by: pabusnut on January 27, 2016, 02:24:58 PM
They might actually have the diesel tank there.  I read somewhere that some of the CNG busses actually still have injectors, because the engine needs a small amount of diesel to lubricate the engine. 

The cost to change it all out might not be outrageous, just really expensive if you can't do it yourself.