Anyone got a 4106 spicer and flywheel left over from an v730 upgrade? I'm helping a guy out that's broke down in my area and his flywheel is badly damaged and his input shaft is the worst that Luke has ever seen. I figured if someone had something collecting dust it might be cheaper for him.
Quote from: Scott Crosby on August 04, 2015, 12:35:28 PM
Anyone got a 4106 spicer and flywheel left over from an v730 upgrade? I'm helping a guy out that's broke down in my area and his flywheel is badly damaged and his input shaft is the worst that Luke has ever seen. I figured if someone had something collecting dust it might be cheaper for him.
I read the Face Book posts. I figured the flywheel fell off the crank.
Send me a PM. I might be able to help
I think Luke can get him a spline saver and clutch disk set that will fix the input shaft problem. He's got quite a parts list accumulating.
Pilot bearing, throw out bearing, flywheel, clutch set, pressure plate, flywheel bolts of proper length and hardness. They are not grade 8 bolts that were in there and they ware only 2" long. Crap the threads do t even start until 1-1/2" from the head of the bolt. The crank is threaded over an inch longer than the bolts. Most of the bolts sheared off 2x. Once at the head and once where the threads started in the crank.
Contact Larry or Red Ryder @ www.westerngmcoaches (http://www.westerngmcoaches) they know where all the part stashes are for the GM 's I know they use 2 different fly wheels depending on the serial number I have both if you can figure out the logistics from AZ you can have one for free
I'm sure he will take you up on that. What's the difference for him to let you know? Can he arrange 2nd day air shipping with like FedEx and could it be shipped tomorrow if we get you the info? In sure shipping would be a lot but he's broke down and only on vacation until Monday.
This is what's on it. A112 with the # 27 stamped sideways to the left of the # A112
If that helps
Also maybe he just needs the tooth gear ring part of it. That is the mating surface and if comes off correct?? It would be much lighter to ship that's for sure. Can you switch it like that?? The only damage is the bolt hole area and mating surface.
He can buy the ring gear from any DD dealer just heat and knock it off last ring gear I bought was 130 bucks if not let me know I can knock one off for the guy ? did the flywheel have a scuff ring where the bolts go through you really need it
Ok he will need the whole flywheel. And can you wrap it up in cardboard for UPS ground shipping. We wanted to get it faster to get them on the road but the clutch rebuilder is going to take a few days to get the clutches and spline saver ready so they won't make it home from their vacation in their bus so ground shipping is fine then. How can they contact you to pay the shipping and packaging fees?? PM me a contact number and I'll give it to them. I'm just the middle man helping out someone free of charge that's broke down. I never met them until two days ago when they broke down.
Too bad he didn't have the time to convert to a V730 with the money he is going to spend to get back on the road.
Luke is having a spline saver sleeve made to go over these nasty splines in his transmission input shaft. They then make new clutch plates that go on the larger splines. These are impressively damaged to have still been working. It's not cheap, the whole kit that includes the spline saver, 2 clutch disks, and the intermediate plate is $650. Ouch but we couldn't find a new input shaft and he still needed the disks and plate too. And his cores are no good since they are all broke or damaged. The flywheel is the last part of that puzzle for him.
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5173626 is another number be just found on hub of flywheel. Is that clear which one it is?
This is the DD number I'll check mine later shipping is a problem from here I checked with UPS it has to be on a pallet then I need to drive 40 miles 1 way to the UPS docks they won't let me ship from the 2 drop off stations here
Scott I have it
He doesn't need the scuff plate, is it light enough without it to ship ups?
I'll check with uship to pick it up. Can you strap it to a pallet and load it on the truck?
You are in Phoenix or a suburb I probably need the exact town for a correct bid.
Ok I'm getting some bids in from uship
Do you happen to have any crank shaft dowels? Luke has them backordered.
What do need with dowels everyone I know me included removes the dowels on the 6 bolt flywheels and drill ,tap and heli coil the dowel holes making it a 8 bolt flywheel directions are in the book p7 section 1
With losing 1 flywheel already I would go the 8 bolt route JMO
I like that idea better anyway. Thanks
Repairing a clutch and manual transmission is like using a hammer and nail. Eventually, you're going to hammer one of your fingers.
Changing to the V730 is like using an air powered nail gun. Good Luck, TomC
Quote from: TomC on August 06, 2015, 07:15:38 AM
Changing to the V730 is like using an air powered nail gun.
And some people like a simple hammer and nail. . .
;D
Scott,I didn't send a hammer or nails but the guy pick it up @ 2:30 yesterday it is headed your way ;D you may want to remove it from the housing and have it lightly resurfaced that is your call
Did you receive the flywheel ?
He wanted me give you a big thanks for the flywheel! We got him all put back together and driving today. The flywheel cleaned up and worked out great!
Another one in the books for Scott Crosby. Scott, I've followed the philanthropic work you do for bus nuts and I you even talked me through my low power issue on our bus on greasemonkey which turned out to be wrong micron fuel filters. You're a real blessing and help to others. Thanks for being out there and helping busnuts
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And thanks to Clifford too for that flywheel.
Glad he is on the road the flywheel was nothing on my part, someone told me you couldn't make the bolts work Scott ? I don't understand why unless you tried to use regular bolts those need to be changed to the raised cap (step) style like the picture in the manual Luke knows that
They looked like the ones in the manual, and I they did work I just had to use a thinner walled socket to the them on. Impact socket was too thick to fit and the 1/2" drive chrome one just needed the chrome ground off the outside edges to fit Inbetween the heads of the bolts.
The step heads have a 9/16 socket size head,grinding the socket works ;D