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Title: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Lostranger on May 22, 2015, 05:54:06 PM
I'm still in shock, but I want to post this question before I forget.

What has me in such a dither is the video about the bright red and polished stainless Scenic. Raised and stretched. I understood him to say that his name is Pat McNeal. It's the most impressive conversion I've seen. Remarkably well done, and if my rich uncle ever gets straight, I'll buy that bus. Can't believe I'd never seen it.

But back to reality. In the early interior segment, he opens an upper cabinet by pressing a round button and then pulling on the button assembly. I've been searching relentlessly for that sort of latch/handle. I'll have many cabinet doors and drawers, and I'd like to find that sort of latch for all. Any hardware help here?

TIA

Jim

P.S. My uncle is a hunchback.
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: luvrbus on May 22, 2015, 06:03:39 PM
Jim, those are marine latches you may need to win the lottery $$$$,some manufactures call the ones with the handle glove box latches
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Dave5Cs on May 22, 2015, 06:13:42 PM
Maybe these..... ;D

http://www.searay-parts.com/Southco-93-304-push-to-close-latch-p/93-304soutcholatch.htm (http://www.searay-parts.com/Southco-93-304-push-to-close-latch-p/93-304soutcholatch.htm)
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: eagle19952 on May 22, 2015, 06:19:13 PM
SouthCo makes a wide range at different price points, I have  these...

http://www.amazon.com/Southco-Adjustable-Operated-Compression-Non-Locking/dp/B00GM5EJ8Q/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1432344834&sr=8-9&keywords=southco+latches (http://www.amazon.com/Southco-Adjustable-Operated-Compression-Non-Locking/dp/B00GM5EJ8Q/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1432344834&sr=8-9&keywords=southco+latches)

http://www.southco.com/static/Literature/c2.en.pdf (http://www.southco.com/static/Literature/c2.en.pdf)

These are push to open, not sure if they are a match to the ones you refer ?

http://www.southco.com/en-us/mp-pl/mp-05-112-11 (http://www.southco.com/en-us/mp-pl/mp-05-112-11)

(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.southco.com%2Fstatic%2FProductMainImage%2FMP-05-112-11.jpg&hash=f068c8bb0adff9de882b8fca5547796ae28a16d2)
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: oltrunt on May 22, 2015, 06:51:06 PM
Jim, with your skills you could easily adapt a glove box door latch say from a '54 Chevy or such and save your money to buy me a beer when finally we meet!  Jack
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: kyle4501 on May 22, 2015, 07:02:56 PM
Hey Jim,
Yes, Pat did some slight modifications to that Scenicruiser. If you think it looks good in a video, you should see it in person! 

Pat is also one of the nicest people I have ever met.
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Skykingrob on May 22, 2015, 07:13:59 PM
Jim
They can be found at www.rockler.com (http://www.rockler.com) in the latch section. Only problem, the only color is bright brass from rockler. They operate as a draw pull and can be pushed in to lock the drawer when on the move.

Rob
91 Prevost
Missouri
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: uncle ned on May 22, 2015, 07:24:48 PM

Rumour has it that redbull offered Pat half million for the big red bus.

Pat responded " would work for  a dollar hour  that is about what you are offering.

uncle ned

ps he is a nice guy  came by and helped me blow black diesel smoke over Jara Smith grave.
Been 15 years since he passed away from a massive heart attack
Jara was the original owner of huggy and the person that got me and a lot more started in the bus world
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Lostranger on May 23, 2015, 04:35:20 AM
Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

I thought the Rockler option might be the ticket until I read in the reviews that it's plastic. Not gonna go there. For the price they're asking, it should be solid brass, and that would suit me fine. The description does not mention material. It's here if anyone is interested: http://www.rockler.com/positive-action-push-button-catch (http://www.rockler.com/positive-action-push-button-catch)

Plastic is also the issue with the silver colored button latch someone else suggested. The large, rectangular latches will not fit my door frames, and the glove box latch does not appear to reach through a 3/4" door. It's also not flush and likely to be plastic.

We're full time. Our upper cabinets assume the role of basement storage in most coaches. Some of them will not see much use, but other cabinets and drawers will be opened frequently. Latches need to be clean, sturdy, secure, easy to use and work on doors and drawers. Also, they must not protrude and snag loose clothing. Plastic catches will not be up to the job. Even if they were, I hate the look and feel of plastic "hardware" especially when used with beautiful, natural-finish hardwood. Our first choice is polished brass. If you know of a latch that meets these criteria, I'd love to see it.

Maybe what I want does not exist, but I'm guessing Pat did not use plastic latches on that gorgeous Scenic. Is he on this board? Does someone know how to reach him? He could answer my question.

Uncle Ned, I'm glad to hear that he turned down Red Bull. Would be a shame to see such a work of art turned into anyone's rolling billboard. Double shame for such a dubious product.

Thanks again,

Jim
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Lostranger on May 23, 2015, 04:48:46 AM
This item looks good if I can find a retail source: http://www.southco.com/en-us/mt-p (http://www.southco.com/en-us/mt-p)
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Oonrahnjay on May 23, 2015, 05:34:20 AM
Quote from: Lostranger on May 23, 2015, 04:48:46 AM
This item looks good if I can find a retail source: http://www.southco.com/en-us/mt-p (http://www.southco.com/en-us/mt-p)

    Jim, I've used some of the "lever type" compression latches (that Don "Eag" linked) from Southco and also nice little pushbutton drawer latches.  The drawer latches are a little flush button - you have to push the button, then that button with a grooved cylinder behind it pops out; the drawer won't open until you pull that grooved cylinder.  That pushbutton latch (for a drawer) is SUPER nice.  The "lever type" I used on cabinet doors, my bed platform latches, etc., it works well too but visually it's much larger.   I'm pretty sure they're both Southco. 
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: eagle19952 on May 23, 2015, 09:33:42 AM
Quote from: Lostranger on May 23, 2015, 04:48:46 AM
This item looks good if I can find a retail source: http://www.southco.com/en-us/mt-p (http://www.southco.com/en-us/mt-p)


perhaps here: https://www.biscoind.com/Southco/6200000007487/Pin-Latches (https://www.biscoind.com/Southco/6200000007487/Pin-Latches)

this site has some interesting stuff

[urlhttp://gripwell.com.sg/index.php?route=product/product&path=9_69_72&product_id=1451][/url]
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: luvrbus on May 23, 2015, 11:37:47 AM
I bought a few made of SS by Sea/Dog the pull you had to buy separate and those came in a 2 finger pull or 1 finger pull, the latch went through the pull like the pull on travel trailers with the lock on the bays

I think I bought those from Jamestown I do remember the 35 bucks ea and 3 bucks apiece for the pulls   ???   
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Brian Diehl on May 23, 2015, 11:53:25 AM
I use these.  I love them.  They have been working great for 8 years now with no problems.

http://www.hafele.com/us/en/external/blaetterkataloge/TCH2015-FC/index.html?startpage=10.60 (http://www.hafele.com/us/en/external/blaetterkataloge/TCH2015-FC/index.html?startpage=10.60)
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Lostranger on May 23, 2015, 02:53:41 PM
Clifford, you've hit the very thing, and only $14.27/ea.  http://www.go2marine.com/product/39595F/sea-dog-push-button-rim-latch-cabinet-door-hardware.html (http://www.go2marine.com/product/39595F/sea-dog-push-button-rim-latch-cabinet-door-hardware.html)

Brian, where do you buy this item?

Thanks again,

Jim
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: sledhead on May 23, 2015, 05:54:43 PM
Brian
do you know how much they cost ?

thanks   dave
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: TomC on May 24, 2015, 07:06:17 AM
On my bus cabinets, the overhead cabinets have the hinge on the bottom with simple friction latches (like for a home) holding it. Since they are hinged on the bottom, nothing banging on the door will open it. In the 15 years, never had a cabinet come open or loose anything going down the road. Especially with air suspension, the vibration just isn't there like on a spring motorhome. Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Decalsbyblondie on May 24, 2015, 11:43:00 AM
I have used these from this supplier  in the past. They were easy to install  in new cabinets. Held the doors and drawers closed very well

http://allrvstuff.com/ez-catalog/X325604/197 (http://allrvstuff.com/ez-catalog/X325604/197)
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Brian Diehl on May 24, 2015, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: Lostranger on May 23, 2015, 02:53:41 PM

Brian, where do you buy this item?

Jim

I bought mine directly from Hafele online.  I applied for an account and was granted access.

Quote from: sledhead on May 23, 2015, 05:54:43 PM
Brian
do you know how much they cost ?

thanks   dave

You need 3 parts, the latch, the trim ring, and the knob.
Latch: ~ 3.05
Trim ring: ~ 2.56
Knob: ~ 3.25
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Oonrahnjay on May 26, 2015, 04:41:59 AM
Quote from: Decalsbyblondie on May 24, 2015, 11:43:00 AM
I have used these from this supplier  in the past. They were easy to install  in new cabinets. Held the doors and drawers closed very well

http://allrvstuff.com/ez-catalog/X325604/197 (http://allrvstuff.com/ez-catalog/X325604/197)

    These are the ones I've used.  Yes, work very well.
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: flynbanjo on May 26, 2015, 05:56:13 AM
I talked to the folks at Millennium luxury coaches in Sanford Florida.  They were willing to sell me the door pulls for $50.00 each. 
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Lostranger on May 26, 2015, 08:57:30 AM
Bruce, your link did not work for me.
Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: eagle19952 on May 26, 2015, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: Lostranger on May 26, 2015, 08:57:30 AM
Bruce, your link did not work for me.

(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.allrvstuff.com%2FCatalog%2FEuro_Cabinet_Catches%2F17784S_1.jpg&hash=77d29754a7e3a45c1a07e50e86e970f689c17348)

http://allrvstuff.com/ez-catalog/X325604/197/17784ST (http://allrvstuff.com/ez-catalog/X325604/197/17784ST)

Title: Re: Upper Cabinet Latch Source
Post by: Oonrahnjay on May 26, 2015, 07:26:36 PM
Quote from: eagle19952 on May 26, 2015, 11:58:44 AM
(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.allrvstuff.com%2FCatalog%2FEuro_Cabinet_Catches%2F17784S_1.jpg&hash=77d29754a7e3a45c1a07e50e86e970f689c17348)

http://allrvstuff.com/ez-catalog/X325604/197/17784ST (http://allrvstuff.com/ez-catalog/X325604/197/17784ST) 

   Yep, very much like mine.  (I was quoting someone else's link ... dunno what went wrong, it worked on his post but not on my copy.)