I can't find one anywhere on the web. Been trying to see what an all black 102DL3 would look like.
Hi;
I think they are rare.
#1 They are hot during the summer even with air conditioning.
#2 They need frequent washing. They look dirty/dusty all the time.
Merle.
Ok then. They are as rare as a unicorn.
or bigfoot
or a cheap bus.... ;)
Hey Scott,
Have you tried photoshopping your bus? I use photopos pro it's a free photo editing software that works very similar to photoshop. I took a side view of my bus and changed the colors from blues and greens to reds, rusts, all different hues to see what it would look like with a new paint job. Still haven't gotten the paint job, but we sure have eliminated a range of colors and patterns LOL. HTH
Will
Check for black E models MCI not much difference in 2 I seen several of those for sale sharp looking in the black
I've seen a lot of buses with rust color! lvmci...
Black looks great but a lot of upkeep. Has a black 61 Thunderbird at one time looked great washed and polished but one day out and dust made it look brown. White or some variation of white is the best to reflect the suns rays and heat. Get an infrared heat gun and check out different colors in the direct sun and you will see which one is hot. I did this on my bus which has black and white and what a difference in temps between the white and black. White I could put my had on it black was so hot you could not keep the hand on very long. I once measured my tinted glass side windows on the inside in August in direct sun and it showed 135 degrees.
when you grow up in the desert, black vehicle's are not the color of choice. lvmci...
All true. I'm never going white again. It's great, but I definitely want a prettier color on the next coach. May do some sort of graphite color. Still coming up with ideas. Black is sharp. Cliff, I have photos of the EL3 in black and its sharp. (https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F03%2F28%2Fee7422424d9cc090dca7061e84f4e402.jpg&hash=bc9cc2dbd59edecf18e37bbd908e87a9980e3408)
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Hey Scott,
My bus before the paint job.. I drove it a year in flat black.
Better have oversized A/C systems.. Sucker got real hot! Outside surface temp on a 90 degree day
was 195 degrees. A white van right next to my bus was 131 degrees. Big difference! This is why I
incorporated mostly White into the paint job.
Nick-
We have 4-5 shades of blue on our bus. Yesterday it was 98 degrees and i took temp readings on different parts of the bus. Highest i had was 154. On a 104 degree day i have had 184 on that same spot. We are not well insulated,( done in 83, no high tech stuff then). Yesterday on the inside in the front half with no ac on we had a temp of 113.2......white is looking more attractive. :)
I wonder if the temp reading would differ from steel, aluminum, or fiberglass.
hi Chessie, I think fiberglass doesn't transfer heat as much, there is a paint with ceramic particles in it that almost eliminates heat absorption, forgot the name. lvmci...
Aren't the President's buses painted black? My Beast is all white.
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Quote from: lvmci on March 29, 2015, 01:38:38 PM
hi Chessie, I think fiberglass doesn't transfer heat as much, there is a paint with ceramic particles in it that almost eliminates heat absorption, forgot the name. lvmci...
I used that ceramic stuff in my roof paint when I completely repainted the roof a year or two ago. It makes some difference, but exactly how much it affects interior temperatures I don't know for sure. I could tell the difference inside by the cooler (less hot?) ceiling temperature under the section that had the ceramic additive in the gloss white top coat, compared to the section still in plain white primer. The ceiling was about 10 degrees cooler, but that doesn't mean the whole interior would be that much cooler. However, Rustoleum gloss white enamel has a rough suede-like appearance with the ceramic in it, so after two coats of it I then painted two more coats of plain Rustoleum without the additive to make a smoother glossier finish. I think that having plain gloss white on the roof is the single best thing to help keep a bus cooler, and the ceramic may not make much difference overall.
John
Quote from: BeastMaster on March 29, 2015, 07:18:29 PM
Aren't the President's buses painted black? My Beast is all white.
Nah, those are his helicopters ....
Looks like a black bus to me!
But that's a PREVOST X3-45 not an MCI D. :)
...And anyway I think the President's 'black helicopters' comment was referring to something else entirely....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_helicopter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_helicopter)
Jeremy
Quote from: Jeremy on March 30, 2015, 10:16:50 AM
...And anyway I think the President's 'black helicopters' comment was referring to something else entirely....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_helicopter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_helicopter)
Jeremy
Or the IRS, or the DEA, or the TriLateral Commission ... it's hard to keep up with the Conspirataloonies' ideas of the week ...
Wonder what the siding is made of on that bus it looks to be the standard Prevost fiberglass for the X3,why does he need 2 of those at 2 mil a pop
Well, just like there are 2 Air Force One's and 2 beast limo's. Backup and decoy. There was a program that runs on one of the cable networks that explains all of that and it was very interesting and informative. As for the bus, that is a good question. Perhaps the siding is stock while the inside is heavily lined with amore. Unless you get elected president or join the Secret Service, you'll never really know for sure.
Thanks guys! Especially nick. Interesting. I know black is stinking hot. But it's also "hot" if you know what I mean
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I have no idea how anyone could paint a bus black. A few years ago I was in the desert with my bus. I have some areas of my bus painted dark green. The dark green areas measured 175 degrees in the sun with an infrared thermometer. (It was 107 degrees in the shade.)
Personally, I will never own a black car. Hot in the summer and look really dirty in the winter. A lot of black cars around here are full of swirl marks from being washed although less often these days due to not using brushes in car washes anymore. Black cars that are fairly new do look really good in the summer if they are clean. (No car is ever clean for very long in the winter.)
Our bus is going to be a light color but there is nothing better looking than a black car/rig in my opinion. Everything around here is white, works trucks.... I'm sick of white! ::)
We own a black suburban, a black Bmw x5, a white sprinter and my work service truck is white! Kinda generic huh? Lol
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