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Title: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: treeplanter on February 03, 2015, 07:32:02 AM
Very well done conversion for sale on Ebay, pricey $$. http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEDFORD-OB-BUS-1-OF-A-KIND-MOTORHOME-CONVERSION-MODERN-RUNNING-GEAR-AMAZING-RV-/261749195586?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3cf177c342&item=261749195586&pt=RVs_Campers (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEDFORD-OB-BUS-1-OF-A-KIND-MOTORHOME-CONVERSION-MODERN-RUNNING-GEAR-AMAZING-RV-/261749195586?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3cf177c342&item=261749195586&pt=RVs_Campers)
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: TomC on February 03, 2015, 08:39:41 AM
Great if you're in England.
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: Oonrahnjay on February 03, 2015, 09:18:38 AM
Quote from: TomC on February 03, 2015, 08:39:41 AM
Great if you're in England.

    True!  Only a TOTAL IDIOT would buy a bus in England and ship it over here, right??????
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: CrabbyMilton on February 03, 2015, 10:19:19 AM
Well I don't know what you talk that way but perhaps some people would not be comfortable with a bus that may be next to impossible to find parts and service for. I would imagine that some of UK buses were brought over and given American powertrain components to make it a bit easier to use.
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: TomC on February 03, 2015, 10:17:15 PM
During the summer of 1973, my high school art teacher bought and brought over a mid 50's double deck bus. Was fun to drive with its semi-automatic, pre select four speed, right side drive, no power steering and being 14'6" tall was a challenge. Ran well until something went wrong with the engine. It then sat for the duration. Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: uncle ned on February 04, 2015, 08:05:53 AM

I just can't see why any sane person would try to travel and maintain a 60's something old vehicle.

uncle ned
huggy bear
1953  4104 gm
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: Lee Bradley on February 04, 2015, 08:28:32 AM
Too new?  :D
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: oltrunt on February 04, 2015, 09:47:53 AM
Uncle Ned, I know what you mean.  All I wanted was something older than what I would have ridden to school in, hence the '35 skoolie.  Now if I could only have a chase car to pick up the pieces as they begin to fall off on the road----
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: moosemanusa on February 04, 2015, 01:55:01 PM
Quote from: Oonrahnjay on February 03, 2015, 09:18:38 AM
    True!  Only a TOTAL IDIOT would buy a bus in England and ship it over here, right??????

LOL says the leyland owner :)
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: eagle19952 on February 04, 2015, 02:04:50 PM
at that asking price I could only afford two.... ;D
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: MightyThor on February 04, 2015, 03:58:04 PM
Quote from: eagle19952 on February 04, 2015, 02:04:50 PM
at that asking price I could only afford two.... ;D

Could I buy one from you?  I have about $500 to spend and need it delivered to my house with a full load of fuel, food in the fridge, storage for a small village and it must be able to climb mountains at a high rate of speed.  I will probably buy it from you by the end of the month.
Title: Wow ... Wow ... And ... More ... Wow!
Post by: HB of CJ on February 04, 2015, 05:50:59 PM
When I see these sort of "what evers" for sale at the prices like asked, the thought comes to mind are they serious?  Or ... is the entire process somebodies ideal of a grand joke?

Now if it were already in the good old USA, (assuming they would let you import it) and had a good MUI 471TI Detroit with a real Jake Brake and a suitable mechanical Allision ...

And a big gen set and more A/C to work over here in our summers in the southwest and if the price was only $22,500, then I could see somebody actually buying it.  Just me.

HB of CJ (old coot)  Also I did not see if the brakes,  suspension and steering had been updated.  It did say air bags, but I dunno.  It does look kinda cute actually.  Blimey.
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: Oonrahnjay on February 04, 2015, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: moosemanusa on February 04, 2015, 01:55:01 PM
LOL says the leyland owner :)

     Umm, oh, yeah, I forgot about that part.   
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: eagle19952 on February 05, 2015, 07:08:13 AM
Quote from: MightyThor on February 04, 2015, 03:58:04 PM
Could I buy one from you?  I have about $500 to spend and need it delivered to my house with a full load of fuel, food in the fridge, storage for a small village and it must be able to climb mountains at a high rate of speed.  I will probably buy it from you by the end of the month.

apparently you took me seriously....  ::)
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: moosemanusa on February 05, 2015, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Oonrahnjay on February 04, 2015, 07:45:58 PM
     Umm, oh, yeah, I forgot about that part.   

I use to ride to school on one of those double deckers, where in the UK is she from?
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: Lee Bradley on February 05, 2015, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: eagle19952 on February 05, 2015, 07:08:13 AM
apparently you took me seriously....  ::)

It was on the web, it must be true.
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: Oonrahnjay on February 05, 2015, 01:33:28 PM
Quote from: moosemanusa on February 05, 2015, 09:49:00 AMI use to ride to school on one of those double deckers, where in the UK is she from?

     She's from Shoreham-on-Sea, east of London near the Thames Estuary.  It is a "Manchester jumbo" built on a 33-foot Daimler frame (thus about 4 feet longer than standard).   First registered May, 1976.  It's a "low-bridge" model, meaning that it's 13'6" overall height, this legal in North America.  Originally equipped with the Leyland O-680 6-cylinder engine (something about soapy sticks and dogs' backsides) and the Daimler select-automatic transmission.  Has a "mid-ship" stair, which is nice for conserving space upstairs.  I closed in both original UK-doors and added an RV type door on the right side (US kerb).
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: moosemanusa on February 05, 2015, 01:37:51 PM
Quote from: Oonrahnjay on February 05, 2015, 01:33:28 PM
     She's from Shoreham-on-Sea, east of London near the Thames Estuary.  It is a "Manchester jumbo" built on a 33-foot Daimler frame (thus about 4 feet longer than standard).   First registered May, 1976.  It's a "low-bridge" model, meaning that it's 13'6" overall height, this legal in North America.  Originally equipped with the Leyland O-680 6-cylinder engine (something about soapy sticks and dogs' backsides) and the Daimler select-automatic transmission.  Has a "mid-ship" stair, which is nice for conserving space upstairs.  I closed in both original UK-doors and added an RV type door on the right side (US kerb).

Ahhh Shoreham, I know it well! most of the deckers were purchased from the hippies and then ran into the ground, I've seen more of the older types here in the US than I did back there!

The Leylands are interesting engines, only played with the landrover engines myself but i hear they are just bigger versions..

so why didnt you pick a routemaster?
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: Iceni John on February 05, 2015, 07:00:29 PM
Quote from: Oonrahnjay on February 05, 2015, 01:33:28 PM
     She's from Shoreham-on-Sea, east of London near the Thames Estuary. 
Was it a Southdown bus, or a Brighton & Hove bus?   I spent nine years at school not far from there, and have fond memories of taking Southdown's Leyland Leopards into town  -  they had a great exhaust growl from their 680 engines, not as throaty as a Gardner-engined Bristol RE (but nothing is!), but good buses anyway.   I vaguely recollect something similar to that old Bedford OB that we took trips in  -  it was SLOW!   There was also a Commer bus with the infamous Knocker engine, and that was LOUD!   (Three cylinders, six pistons, no heads and one crankshaft in the middle  -  work that one out!)

John
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: Oonrahnjay on February 06, 2015, 08:14:07 AM
Quote from: Iceni John on February 05, 2015, 07:00:29 PM
Was it a Southdown bus, or a Brighton & Hove bus?   I spent nine years at school not far from there, and have fond memories of taking Southdown's Leyland Leopards into town  -  they had a great exhaust growl from their 680 engines, not as throaty as a Gardner-engined Bristol RE (but nothing is!), but good buses anyway.   I vaguely recollect something similar to that old Bedford OB that we took trips in  -  it was SLOW!   There was also a Commer bus with the infamous Knocker engine, and that was LOUD!   (Three cylinders, six pistons, no heads and one crankshaft in the middle  -  work that one out!)

John

     Duhh, goes to show that three weeks in the USVI and too much rum will do for you!   It's *Southend-on-Sea* that was the first purchaser.  I looked at a Routemaster long and hard but there were some things that just didn't fit with what I wanted to do -- they're short and a lot of the area (esp lower saloon) is taken up with "driveline".  In addition, there didn't seem to be any for sale (in any condition) for months that weren't 14'4" or 14'2" and that is illegal/overheight in all US states and Canadian provinces I know of (there are a couple of Maritimes in Canada that may be outliers).  Plus, there seemed to be issues with a practical door at the entrance platform (more floor space and interior volume lost); the whole idea of a double-decker was to maximize volume and floor space for the available length; sort of like a two-story house.  The "rear drive" layout just seemed to work out.  But the Routemaster was the emotional favorite!

    When I went to pick the bus up at the port, I'd been wondering about carrying capacity.  When I saw the placard "Carrying capacity; 81 seated, 17 standing, 1 crew -- Total 99 persons", I knew that carrying capacity wasn't going to be an issue!  But the Leyland engine proved to be a quick starter and smooth runner but just *way* low on power -- little acceleration and low top speed.  The book for the model in my bus said 150 Hp but it had been in "school bus" service and the injection pump had been turned down to reduce power and make the engine more reliable.  Never could figure out how to bring it back to "stock" but I'm not sure that "stock" would have been much better; and all the experts said that if you really spin those engines, you risk head gaskets (not as much as the Gardner, but still risky).
Title: Re: 1950 Bedford(Ebay)
Post by: moosemanusa on February 06, 2015, 09:19:02 AM
its from SAAAAARRRFFFFF end (only people who have been there will understand)..

I didn't think Brighton and Hove ran them due to the tunnels along the coast there.

My home town had the "badger lines" then the french came in and took over (see that happened here also)..

as for the 3 cylinder and 6 pistons, wouldnt that be a Flat 3 ?