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Title: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: gumpy on January 16, 2015, 07:20:29 PM
This is kind of interesting. There are some unique ideas in this design that could easily be applied to bus conversions. While a rear engine and upper cooling system might be a problem
with most MCI buses regarding the sliding rear unit, some conversions, skoolies and trucks in particular, could very easily incorporate something like this.

http://www.wimp.com/awesomefeature/ (http://www.wimp.com/awesomefeature/)
Title: Re:
Post by: daddyoften on January 16, 2015, 07:58:31 PM
That's pretty cool!

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Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: Jeremy on January 17, 2015, 03:40:47 AM
Those have been around for a while now and in fact I don't think that's even the current version of the van. It is a cool idea though, and I did something similar myself

Jeremy

(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.payhost.net%2FCompleted_Slide_1_smaller.jpg&hash=969bae1015ebab56dd0979d7ce7fa0e14c3f2f07)
Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: chessie4905 on January 17, 2015, 05:56:03 AM
   Made me think of a pop up camper.
Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: Oonrahnjay on January 17, 2015, 09:19:39 AM
      A $100,000 would buy a lot of bus converson components, even at the marine supplies store!
Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: chessie4905 on January 17, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
    Remember, you have that money to buy the used coach also.
Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: dbldragon on January 17, 2015, 04:34:51 PM
 A good used coach would still leave you with 80k in your pocket and look at the space difference. Carry 3 sleep 4 seems strange to me.Then again I am building low tech and 2 bedroom .I still have a couple of things to buy but think parts budget will still be under 10k for my conversion .
Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: Lin on January 17, 2015, 04:46:01 PM
It's innovative for something the size of a van, but since our buses are already 35 to 45 feet, extending it further might cause problems with space length.  Slide outs do roughly the same thing in A and C motorhomes.
Title: That Is So Cool ...
Post by: HB of CJ on January 18, 2015, 07:35:29 PM
Typical precise German engineering also.  Now wondering to myself if this would work ... only take it one step further and have a second interior sliding partition ... inside the first?   A double slide out?  That plus multiple lateral slide outs?  The precise fit and friction problems might be a concern.  Other than that?   Can one also imagine the cost of repair if such a VW were to experience even a slight smack and tweaking?  $OUCH$.  HB of CJ (old coot)  :)
Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: gumpy on January 18, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
I didn't say it was necessarily practical or affordable. I said there were some interesting concepts in it, and not just the slideout.

Maybe my next one will have a 2nd story that lifts up, a rear slide unit, and both sides will slide out full length.  ::)

There isn't any reason I couldn't make a 3rd story come up out of the 2nd story, too. 3 levels of living space!
Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: chessie4905 on January 19, 2015, 04:52:03 AM
Uh oh, too much caffeine.😱
Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: Jeremy on January 19, 2015, 05:50:37 AM
I forget who it was now but there's at least one Class A builder fitting 'concertina' slideouts - ie., a slide within a slide. I'm sort-of doing something similar with one of my side slides, except that the inner one hinges out rather than sides out.

Extending-height motorhomes are used by all the big motorsport teams here and there's a company that builds them only a short distance from my house. I don't know whether the same idea has ever been done on a bus conversion though - I would doubt it

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7403/8718352754_101c86bd7f_z.jpg)

Jeremy

Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: Jeremy on January 19, 2015, 06:03:57 AM
Just had a look at the website of the company local to me (Vipex) and this is what they described as being one of their 'standard products' the Vanguard Double-Decked Mobile Hospitality/Retail Suite (Semi-Trailer). I reckon 100 sq.m. of floor area might just about be sufficient if you wanted a cosy motorhome for occasional weekend use. :)

(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.versatilevenues.co.uk%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2Fcatalog%2Fmobile-shop-semi_t_4_236_1.jpg&hash=49d7dc407bf8481867c7d9fbbeb161ad4a191a17)

(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.versatilevenues.co.uk%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2Fcatalog%2Fmobile-shop-semi_t_3_236_1.jpg&hash=47ad3ef3825b222320ec8b687e83e584de4b701e)

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Vanguard Double-Decked Mobile Hospitality/Retail Suite (Semi-Trailer)

    100.60 m2 retail space
    Internal & external display areas
    Mobile billboard in transit
    Ground based selling opportunities
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Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: digesterman on January 19, 2015, 07:05:03 AM
Those were never intended to be used in the RV industry, when folded up no space to walk and most on in trailers where there are no passengers.


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Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: Jeremy on January 19, 2015, 07:14:18 AM
Obviously. This thread is just a flight-of-fantasy and not meant as a practical proposition for any of us - although the fold-out rooms used on these corporate units do in principle impact much less on the interior space than slide-outs. But with the downside of much longer set-up times and having to re-arrange all the furniture etc each time.

Jeremy
Title: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: digesterman on January 19, 2015, 07:59:55 AM
Kool concept tho, imagine the looks you would have in a RV park after unfolding one of those monsters😄


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Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: Oonrahnjay on January 19, 2015, 10:49:03 AM
    But nobody in their right mind would want a bus conversion with an upstairs and a downstairs, right??????
Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: pabusnut on January 19, 2015, 12:28:36 PM
Quote from: Oonrahnjay on January 19, 2015, 10:49:03 AM
    But nobody in their right mind would want a bus conversion with an upstairs and a downstairs, right??????

Who said any of us are in our right mind  ;D ;D

Steve Toomey
Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: Lin on January 19, 2015, 02:46:39 PM
I once saw a show that had the actor Will Smith's RV.  It was built out of a semi trailer and had a collapsible second floor.
Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: Jeremy on January 19, 2015, 03:06:14 PM
If anyone's feeling flush, here's an advert for an ex-Formula One motorhome for sale. No price quoted unfortunately but there is a nice video showing similar units being built:

http://www.motorsportauctions.com/category/342/Transporters/listings/33568/Ferrari-F1-Race-Trailer-for-sale.html (http://www.motorsportauctions.com/category/342/Transporters/listings/33568/Ferrari-F1-Race-Trailer-for-sale.html)

(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsportauctions.com%2Fuser_images%2F7670055.jpg&hash=6317bcb17a61304319d9930e1570142fb0c1d42a)

(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsportauctions.com%2Fuser_images%2F8272987.jpg&hash=7df676e8b76b83ddb4f0c615e70de91154997ebe)

(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsportauctions.com%2Fuser_images%2F4400372.jpg&hash=fbddb86c4182f5e4e5bb18dbc336d6483b2da3d4)

(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsportauctions.com%2Fuser_images%2F3515958.jpg&hash=e044d3183fa36e39f63abe5bfa87c22b2cf80fce)

(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsportauctions.com%2Fuser_images%2F9276515.jpg&hash=0e9345e8eebbe0acff2d737995c7185d2e1cf7d6)

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Title: Re: Interesting ideas from VW
Post by: Lin on January 19, 2015, 03:24:20 PM
They copied my 5a! I feel so violated!
Title: Wow ...Wow ... Wow! ...
Post by: HB of CJ on January 19, 2015, 03:34:17 PM
Great subject everybody and thank you.  How about some time in the near or far future when the inside of one's personal transportation device ... be it a wheeled ground vehicle; a flying machine or a families private self aware star ship where the inside of the thing is much much larger than the outside since most of the vehicle is made up of force fields that tap into different other dimensions?  Yep ... lots of very good strong real coffee combined with Vicodin.  HB of CJ (old coot) :) :) :)  I love this Bus Conversion Forums.  Good folks.

If the GM4104 is from the 1950's, what will one be called in the year 3500 AD?  Dunno.