Anyone know where I can find a new or used fresh water pex manifold?
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My local hardware store keeps them in stock.
Brian
http://www.supplyhouse.com/PEX-Manifolds-518000 (http://www.supplyhouse.com/PEX-Manifolds-518000)
They sell the mini blocks for 50 bucks to each his own but I think those are just a costly and show piece one doesn't need when the water system fails it always on the supply side 98% of the time and I have one in the RV and never used it
Another option is to make your own with valves, tees, and elbows. Below is an example of one being made:
Introduction to PEX (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy9w7bNJWfY)
I ordered mine from that supplyhouse.com. It was sort of a kit, came with the fittings to tie the water line to it. They seem to have a pretty good price and it came fairly quickly. Now just need to get it installed.
For anyone that hasn't used it before. Make sure you end cuts are square and you get it pushed in all the way. I air pressure mine at 50lbs air before covering up with cabinets etc. Sure most knew that already! Seems like I forget it on occasion and have to re-do. Bob
Quote from: Barn Owl on January 02, 2015, 09:06:40 AMAnother option is to make your own with valves, tees, and elbows. Below is an example of one being made:
Introduction to PEX (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy9w7bNJWfY)
That's useful, Laryn - thanks for posting. I'm trying to get info on PEX (I will have some use for it on the bus but I plan to do an "underfloor" PEX heating system in my bedroom/bathroom area at home). When the guy says "copper rings", it appears that he means the top one of these, right?
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What is the bottom sleeve - what's the difference between it and the top ring (besides twice the price)? When would you use the different ones?
Also, there are some very nice compression tools out there but many of them are pretty $$pendy$$. Some are simple "screw together with plain screw" types. I'm sure that these are clunkier and slower, but if you plan to use a tool 11 times in a year, would you go with the $19 slow tool versus the $79 quick tool? On the other hand, if I'm going to be lying on my back in the crawl space under 600 sq feet of the bedroom end of my house, the $79 will seem *really* cheap soon. But what's the thought on the really inexpensive (slow, low-tech) tools?
Finally, what size PEX do most people use for cold and hot water supply on their bus work?
!/2 inch is more than adequate Bruce I don't like the crimp rings I think the Zurn S/S ratchet clamp rings are far superior for holding and the easiest to install without leaking the tool is a little more expensive and there is no spacing on the ratchet clamps either it's made into the clamp like the crimp sleeve showed in the last of your pictures
That little spacer on the crimp sleeve makes it easier to do slide it on the end of the pipe and crimp it IMO of the 3 I still like the Zurn the best.
I found out you can glue the Pex it has the same OD as CPVC and you can glue the CPVC fittings on the Pex
Quote from: luvrbus on January 02, 2015, 11:17:47 AM!/2 inch is more than adequate Bruce I don't like the crimp rings I think the Zurn S/S ratchet clamp rings are far superior for holding and the easiest to install without leaking the tool is a little more expensive and there is no spacing on the ratchet clamps either it's made into the clamp like the crimp sleeve showed in the last of your pictures
That little spacer on the crimp sleeve makes it easier to do slide it on the end of the pipe and crimp it IMO of the 3 I still like the Zurn the best
Thanks, Clifford. If it holds better, I'm for it. I figger that anytime we drive down the road, we put a lot more vibration and wiggling into a plumbing system than one in a home sees in 20 years (unless you live in California, that is). I like the idea of the spacer on the crimp sleeve making the crimping easier -- another thing on a bus - if we have to do it, we're doing it in a cramped space.
Quote from: luvrbus on January 02, 2015, 11:17:47 AMI found out you can glue the Pex it has the same OD as CPVC and you can glue the CPVC fittings on the Pex
That's really interesting, too. And since CPVC is hot-water rated, that means you can adapt the fittings for hot and cold sides. Please keep this kind of info coming; it's really helpful
have you checked to make sure cpvc is ok for freezing? Pex is, but I'd wonder about cpvc. I did my first bus with that and I'd never use it again... it's brittle and I had leak problems later on.
've used pex in my latest busses, 13 years now not a single issue.. fwiw...
Here is another supplier that I have used
www.pexuniverse.com (http://www.pexuniverse.com)
HTH
Melbo
I saw the water district heat fusing the Pex together I wonder if they do that in houses now ?
I built a mobile shower facility for the USFS in 2004 and used Pex for everything 1" and under. We beat 3 semi's up and down dirt roads to fire camps all summer and then put 7,500 to 12,500 gallons of water a day through it for the showers and I have not had a single failure. I too like the rachet clamps better than the rings. If I built another unit I would use Pex again for sure.
Hi Clifford,
It may look like the pex joints are heat fused but they are not. We use an expansion tool to spread the
pex to make a perfect connection. Here is the tool we use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOtRGbXs9Q0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOtRGbXs9Q0)
Nick-
Hi All, there is a new corner L bracket clamp that slides over the pex pipe, making a right angle without cutting and piecing and clamping. Just force tubing into place, two less joint to possibly leak per angle. I'm using it on my new conversion plumbing, also running all exposed pex pipe, including hot, red pex wrapped in tubular foam insulation in plastic gutter pipe, that runs across the bay.lvmci...
Nick,this was 2 inch white Pex they were butt fusing it, they were using the McEroy hand machine they surfaced it heated both sides and pressed it together and it had the little bead just like a plastic gas line.
I am going to give a try I have a McEroy machine that I used on the plastic gas lines I'll see if works but 1/2 inch may be to small to work with butt fusing
Which is better for a bus the Pex with the oxygen barrier or without the barrier ? lol I notice I am using both on the house and cannot tell the difference unless I read the label
I used white Shark pipe with Pex fittings and copper rings. I found the big crimping tool at an estate sale for free because no one knew what it was for. I said I think I have a use for it and they said here take it. It had only been used a few times. I also have the short one you use with vice grips.
Dave
Quote from: luvrbus on January 02, 2015, 06:36:36 PM
Which is better for a bus the Pex with the oxygen barrier or without the barrier ? lol I notice I am using both on the house and cannot tell the difference unless I read the label
You only need the barrier PEX for hydronic systems. It contains lead (like most plastics), so it's not intended for potable systems.
John
I am using the SS rings. One advantage is the tool will fit into tighter spots, and one tool will do multiple sizes. The SS rings do cost slightly more than the copper, but for my application it was the best and only practical option.
Link: PEX Crimper for Stainless Steel Rings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxxdVdazqZk)
I started using kitec years ago and that is what I used to do the radiant floor heat on the coach in 2005 . Now I use the pex same but different . I was helping my son redo his pump-water heater room on his old house and was telling him how great this stuff was and how I never had a leak . When we turned on the water he sez to me no leaks ah whats that drip from ? Crap in all the crimps I was doing I forgot to crimp 1 joint . The system was at 50 lbs and it was dripping about every 3-4 seconds . No problem pull out the crimp-er and all was good and that's the only leek I have ever had . In this day and age why would any one use any think else
dave
LOL I remember back in the 80's and 90's Polybulylene as the rage of the future then they found the chlorine in the water systems made it fail but they still use it in RV's today
My bus's plumbing is made entirely of polyB. 1989 conversion. I have already replaced small sections of it when it splinters. It gets brittle with age. Soon I need to replace it all with Pex.
JC
I use it but I am not 100% sold on the stuff to many class action law suits popping up here in AZ I see where Kitec settled for 90 million on a class action suit
Quote from: luvrbus on January 02, 2015, 06:36:36 PM
Which is better for a bus the Pex with the oxygen barrier or without the barrier ? lol I notice I am using both on the house and cannot tell the difference unless I read the label
Oxygen barrier PEX is typically used in heating systems which are pressurized. It keeps oxygen from getting into the system and causing rust in steel boilers. I used barrier PEX
in my heating system because the AquaHot has a steel tank. I used regular pex for my fresh water system.
I'm sold on it. Installation is easy. It's durable. I made my own manifolds using copper and brass quarter turn ball valves.
I used permanent crimp rings on the heating system, but used the removable fittings on the fresh water system.
BTW, if anyone needs some of the plastic fittings, I bought 1000 of them when the mfg changed styles. I have about 600 of them left over. Will make you a good deal on them.
can't remember but was the law suit for the fittings not the pipe ? hope so because I have the kitec pipe in the coach and 3 other buildings ( floor heat and plumbing ) no problems to date and I did the first building in 1999
dave
I don't know Dave I just remember in Vegas they removed the Pex out of 5000 homes and re plumbed with what I don't know,here they are starting to have failures they have issued a stop of Pex use in new home construction ,but you can use it to re plumb a older dwelling it makes no sense to me
Here in California they ran copper in concrete many years ago without the neoprene sleeves as they do now. They all over time failed and would just cut them off and re run pex over top to re plumb all baths kit, etc. At a time also PB pipe made in India was use and they have to disclaim it when selling a home with that. Then there's the ABS from Mexico that was failing at the joints on the sewer side. Sheetrock that gased out toxins from China here only a few years ago and they had to tear out whole houses of rock. Maybe it might make sense to have us make our own stuff again even though it is expensive. :o
Dave5Cs
The stuff they are trying to push on me now is wirsbo kind of the same pipe as pex but you use a expander tool that you use to install the plastic ring . I still like the pex rings that you crimp that they sell at canadian tire and homehardwere and home depot at least you can get them on the weekend unlike wrsbo which you have to get from a plumbing wholesaler only open mon-friday
dave
we dont drink or cook with water from the tanks. lvmci...
Ace, I mentioned this when we chatted at the rally, but seriously, spend the $$ on getting all pex sharkbite push connect fittings. You'll thank yourself over and over when you want to change things around later. They are awesome and I have never had one leak....ever. No need to deal with crimping rings and special tools. That's drama and I know how much you love drama.
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Quotespend the $$ on getting all pex sharkbite fittings
I love them also and have made some emergency repairs on the road with them. No more fittings than you will find in a conversion why not use them? Yes, they are pricy, but in the end are only a very small percentage of the overall cost of materials in a build. Anyone else have experience with these? Pros/cons. I now carry several fittings in my emergency parts kit.
Dittos on the shark bite fittings, huge variety of sizes and configurations available. Only way to go
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I used Quest tubing (Polyb, I believe) on my bus 20 years ago. Haven't had any issues yet. Am going to use Pex on my truck. At least on the truck if I have any issues, I have the basement to crawl around to fix anything. The bus to replumb would be a bit more of a challenge.
If you don't use Pex, what else can you use (not copper). Good Luck, TomC
I used PEX and Sharkbite fittings in my bus. I will be using a Sharkbite fitting or two in my house to avoid difficult situations with soldering copper. The places I am using the Sharkbites in the house won't have damage if there is ever a leak.
I don't know if I 'd use sharkbite fittings behind a wall in the house I just don't trust that o ring in there over time. All rubber goes when dried out over the years.
Quote from: Dave5Cs on January 04, 2015, 11:05:56 AM
I don't know if I 'd use sharkbite fittings behind a wall in the house I just don't trust that o ring in there over time. All rubber goes when dried out over the years.
Quote from: belfert on January 04, 2015, 09:02:54 AM
I used PEX and Sharkbite fittings in my bus. I will be using a Sharkbite fitting or two in my house to avoid difficult situations with soldering copper. The places I am using the Sharkbites in the house won't have damage if there is ever a leak.
He says he only intends to use them in an area that won't be damaged IF a leak occurs. My guess he's talking about in a garage or basement area where they are exposed for easy view & repair.
Also if they have water in them wouldn't that keep the rubber from drying out ???
;D BK ;D
I've used Sharkbite and re-used them a time or two as well. In tight territory they are a godsend, not having to use the crimp tool. At roughly 6X the cost of plain fittings, I'll do a lot of crimping but some you just can't get to. What I haven't done is come back after 30 years to see how they stood up... They can be used with copper, or other 1/2" OD tube, which makes they a great transition from old work to new. I had the white hard plastic tube, came out this spring and put pressure in the system, I had leaks at a half dozen joints, it just kind of fell apart. Water system was open and drained for the winter. PEX can even survive a freeze, often as not.
Brian
Elkhart Products Corp. (who make the TecTite push fittings for PEX, very similar to Sharkbite) have a 50 year warranty. This type of push-together fitting has been used for many years in Europe with great success - it's a relatively recent development in this country. I use some TecTite and some Sharkbite fittings, depending on which is cheaper or if I'm near a Lowes or a Home Despot - they seem comparable to me. However, I take care to support the PEX either side of the fittings so it cannot move inside them at all when assembled: that's the only way I could imagine them leaking.
Yes, PEX itself is resistant to freeze damage, but the fittings and valves may still get damaged if they freeze, so it's prudent to protect all the plumbing if you're in brass-monkey weather, no different than any other plumbing, or simply drain the bus before winter.
John
I can't stress this enough, I have completely plumbed our coach (including behind the walls) with pex sharkbite fittings and have never (not once) had any of them leak. I have had brass shower valves split at a seam and leak, I've had brass nipples split and leak but never once my pex. I froze my pex main line last winter (-22F so it froze hard) and after thawing the brass elbow out and getting the water flowing again, I was back in business. The best reason to go with push connect fittings even though they are expensive is that you can move stuff around and rearrange your plumbing even years later if you need to. We are in the planning stages of a bother conversion to better suit our needs and even though we are putting our coach up for sale, I don't think we could sell it for $20,000 so if not, I'm stripping every pex fitting I can out of it and transferring to the new coach. I love the stuff. It's like tinker toys.
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Sharkbite fitting will leak over time especially on the hot water side with the vibration BTDT,it is same principal as the push in air line fitting on the later model buses and they leak over time also ::)
Every situation is different. Here in Delaware, our water has a ph of 4.5 to 5. Any brass fittings will be eaten away within years.
My family always thought copper piping was the only way to plumb. [not from Delaware]
After seeing copper & galvanized steel fail with our local water conditions, pvc and cpvc have lasted years longer. But,, after 5 years on our commercial dish washer, with all the jerking motions, the joints of the cpvc failed more than 2 times. About 10 years ago I put pex on the line to the dishwasher. I used flair it fittings, whitch are pom based plastic fittings, they are still there. I have tried sharkbite fittings and have have mixed results.
On the 2 busses I have converted, i used nothing but pex, or heater hose.. I have used brass, or copper when it is used with antifreeze, but not with potable water. Our water will eat through most metals. Sharkbite, and all of the seals are only a temporary solution to work for a long term system.
As most of you wont have to deal with our local ph water,, but,,, pex has stood up to the flex on my worst case situation.
the fittings are the issue. i just plumbed up an hot water heated floor , using several different fittings. Only time will tell.
Why would you use any fitting with Pex? Make all home runs, only fittings at each end.
Jack
Also if they have water in them wouldn't that keep the rubber from drying out ???
;D BK ;D
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BK did you really say that, ?????LOL
Dave5Cs
Sharkbite fittings are so good, most big rig trucks use them for the air systems that run up to 130psi-which is way higher then water systems. Good Luck, TomC
LOL there you go Sharkbite fitting on air systems and they leak I buy those air fitting by the box
Lol. Cliff, I always bow to your expertise and experience but my feelings are hurt that you aren't on my side on this... Lol! Let it be known!! I LOVE PEX!! and it's never leaked on me. Some of it has to do with making sure you cut your ends straight but I have a tool for that.
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I am sorry Scott but I never had good luck with the Sharkbite fittings and hate their Pex pipe that stuff is the pits to work with ;D
Why would you drink it..... ??? ::) ???
Quote from: Homegrowndiesel on January 06, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Every situation is different. Here in Delaware, our water has a ph of 4.5 to 5. Any brass fittings will be eaten away within years.
Our water will eat through most metals.
As most of you wont have to deal with our local ph
One thing I learned early on in using the pex:
1. Make sure your end is cut as square as possible
2. Make sure you always (ALWAYS) use the liner that came with the fitting
3. Make sure you insert the pex pipe 1" into the fitting. Any less and you are asking for issues.
ACE, you opened this can of worms, where are ya?!
We use pex on our rental properties because when the tenant tears up the plumbing it is easy and cheap to fix. Also freeze resistant, but I will agree, the brass fittings are just as prone to freeze damage as any other type of rigid plumbing. Only downside I have experienced so far was a kink that a tenant put in the pipe would not come back out. Once kinked, that section is a ticking time bomb.
I've frozen a pex brass elbow and it's never leaked. I'm still using it today. I suppose pex plumbing would be smart to use in a rental cause they won't be tempted to steal the copper...crazy people.
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I was told the sites are not real so I don't believe anything anybody says anymore so I'm staying out of it!
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Aw come on, you know that everything on the internet is true?? ;D
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I was told the sites are not real so I don't believe anything anybody says anymore so I'm staying out of it!
Wait, I thought we all decided that you were make believe and that we were too old to believe in you anymore. Sort of like Santa and Tinker Bell.
Wait I might have this all wrong!
It was some clown on the other board that tried to convince me that anything said on the board was not real and I shouldn't believe everything I read or was it everything he said? Hell I can't remember! That's how much attention I pay to them fools that know everything about nothing! I'm getting to old for that crap anyway but it's fun reading their fairy tales! 😉
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Quote from: B_K on January 04, 2015, 12:14:22 PM
He says he only intends to use them in an area that won't be damaged IF a leak occurs. My guess he's talking about in a garage or basement area where they are exposed for easy view & repair.
Correct. I am using Sharkbites on exposed plumbing in my utility room. There is a floor drain although I have a septic system so eventually the septic could fill up faster than it drains. I turn off my well pump when I am gone for more than a day so hopefully a leak will never fill my septic system before I discover it.
Quote from: TomC on January 07, 2015, 07:30:33 AM
Sharkbite fittings are so good, most big rig trucks use them for the air systems that run up to 130psi-which is way higher then water systems. Good Luck, TomC
They do use push fittings similar to Shark Bite for air on trucks, but I don't think the Sharkbites are DOT approved. My bus is new enough to have push fittings in some places and none leak so far that I know of.
I just spent the day fixing frozen/ burst pipes. The wind is what gets em! Anyway if we have a heat pipe and its an ordeal to drain everything down or that zone is not isolated etc. we will try a sharkbite. I hate them and always have problem with them. My buddy uses them all the time. I do use pex now a lot more and today I had a heat zone that I tried a sharkbite on and ended up soldering pex adapts and then crimping on a section of heatpex for the repair. It has its uses for sure. One thing tho now they have little lawyer warnings up about having a calibrated pex tool so you can defend yourself in court in case of a leak. Nice. it does not pay to be in business anymore lol
After all this did you find a Pex manifold ?
Quote from: luvrbus on January 10, 2015, 05:32:27 AMAfter all this did you find a Pex manifold ?
Clifford, correct me if I'm wrong but I am beginning to get the feeling that you don't like PEX and "sharkbites" ... :)
I like Pex Bruce the Sharkbite :D,the Pex is just a process that has been around since the 70's used in gas lines for water use it hasn't been around that long there are 100's of manufactures of the pex pipe and they are all different
Quote from: luvrbus on January 10, 2015, 07:06:33 AMI like Pex Bruce the Sharkbite :D,the Pex is just a process that has been around since the 70's used in gas lines for water use it hasn't been around that long
Based on the other thread about pumps, I think that it would be better if I move my pump so I appreciate the thread about the PEX (I'm going to need to so some replumbing). Thanks for the input, it is helpful! But, yeah, unless it's *absolutely* necessary, any PEX I run will be straight connection with no "Sharkbites".
Quote from: eagle19952 on January 08, 2015, 06:28:14 AM
Why would you drink it..... ??? ::) ???
Its not bad to drink, the ph of most bottled drinks, like teas, gatorade, coke , beer, wine etc is between 2.5 and 4 . I have a water conditioner at my house to adjust the ph.
I have replaced many copper, brass, galvanized pipes and fittings due to our local water conditions, and have have had great results with the flair it plastic fittings, but in the last 5 years have been using the plastic pex fittings with the SS clamp rings. Like these http://www.nibco.com/PEX/PEX-Fittings/PEX-Poly-Fittings/ (http://www.nibco.com/PEX/PEX-Fittings/PEX-Poly-Fittings/)
lots easier to work with, cheaper and I have yet to have a failure. YMMV.
I just love threads like this. Beating it to death, having coffee, reading the newspaper and then getting back online and beating it more to death haha! I love my life :)
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It could be worse Scott...
You could be helping people find a bus!!!
QuoteSharkbite fittings are so good, most big rig trucks use them for the air systems that run up to 130psi-which is way higher then water systems.
Those things are probably good for faster assembly at the factory and may be good for a few years. Every air leak I ever had on my old Volvo was at a push together fitting, even ones that have never been apart, and they aren't really reusable. You can take them apart and try but usually leak SOON. Doesn't seem to matter whether the line is new or not.
I have no opinion on Sharkbite for pex other than they are ungodly expensive.
Dick
So, does anyone have an opinion on whether I should continue to use my pex and sharkbait fittings in my bus? ::)
LOL no Gumpy people use what they like and feel what works best for them I bought a bunch of sharkbite on close out a HD they were so cheap (.50 ea} I could not pass up the deal and I don''t know what I will ever use 1in sharkbite for but I have them ;D
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Wow if only our school teachers made learning as informative and humorous as you guys, I might be a smarter fellow today ;D
Quote from: luvrbus on January 11, 2015, 05:32:25 AM
LOL no Gumpy people use what they like and feel what works best for them I bought a bunch of sharkbite on close out a HD they were so cheap (.50 ea} I could not pass up the deal and I don''t know what I will ever use 1in sharkbite for but I have them ;D
Yep. Sounds about right. Can't pass up a good deal like that!
I have about 600 Durapex fittings because I got a good deal on a close out and a bunch of busnut "friends" said they would buy some to do their bus with!
I also have a whole bunch of 1/2" PVC fittings that I got when a Builder's Square closed and I was buying at $0.10 on the dollar! Was going to do my sprinkler system with it.
Didn't think that through.
Anyone need some pex fittings or 1/2" PVC fittings for their bus?
:D
First of all, ACE, lol. :)
And as for this?
quote: "I have no opinion on Sharkbite for pex other than they are ungodly expensive. -Dick"
That's something we all can agree on. My bus has a fairly simple plumbing system. Bath sink, shower, kitchen sink, toilet, washing machine and reverse osmosis system. And we just cumulated our receipts and I have literally over $1100 in pex and sharkbite fittings in that bus. So not for the faint of wallet.
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Working on the Truck plumbing, I just purchased 10 ball valves for my manifold, 25 T's, 25 elbows, 50 copper crimp rings, 50' 1/2 blue and 50' 1-2 red tubing all for under $100.00. Heck the crimping tool was $50.00 so, so far I'm doing good!
LOL 100 bucks vs 1000 is a no brainier for me did you get a go/no go gauge with the tool ? if not you need one
Yes Clifford, it came with it!
They sell a tool you can cut the boo-boo out with for 12 bucks I used mine quit a bit at 1st ::)
ok as were still on the pex stuff ... has any one found some kind of cutter to cut off the ring you crimp on ? I ask because I use a cut off wheel when I have air or use a 4-1/2 " grinder when I don't . there must be some kind of side players cutter or something
any ideas ?
dave
Is this what you are looking for?
http://www.homedepot.com/p/SharkBite-Copper-Crimp-Ring-Removal-Tool-23055/202032951 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/SharkBite-Copper-Crimp-Ring-Removal-Tool-23055/202032951)
There is a tool for that most HD have those for 12 bucks in fact two different types plumbing supply house have the better one but they cost 40 bucks
Wow!!! I watched the short video on how it works . Thats a lot easier then the die grinder . looks like I will be at homedesperate tomorrow picking one up
thanks dave
I spent way less than $1000 for my PEX plumbing even with Sharkbite fittings. I spent between $75 and $100 total for the nine or ten Sharkbite fittings I used. I only used Sharkbite fittings at the connections to the fixtures, pump, and tank. I spent $100 on a Manabloc manifold. I spent another $200 or so on PEX pipe, a valve or two, and a few other pieces.
Menards also sells a tool for cutting off PEX crimp rings if you have them nearby, but the cost is $20.
Quote from: sledhead on January 11, 2015, 03:32:52 PM
ok as were still on the pex stuff ... has any one found some kind of cutter to cut off the ring you crimp on ? I ask because I use a cut off wheel when I have air or use a 4-1/2 " grinder when I don't . there must be some kind of side players cutter or something
any ideas ?
dave
I have use side cut wire dykes or a hacksaw to cut through ring. If you are careful you won't damage the tube.
There's also a cutoff blade that you can put in a Dremel that does a good job, but they are very fragile and prone to break at high speed.
we just put the crimper back on the ring and hold it tight and twist it to break or can do the same with a vise grip.
Quote from: Ace on January 11, 2015, 10:11:58 AM
Working on the Truck plumbing, I just purchased 10 ball valves for my manifold, 25 T's, 25 elbows, 50 copper crimp rings, 50' 1/2 blue and 50' 1-2 red tubing all for under $100.00. Heck the crimping tool was $50.00 so, so far I'm doing good!
Ace -You might be able to use this little gizmo in certain places, rather than elbows, to serve the same function (and be hydraulically more efficient, too!)
http://www.homedepot.com/p/SharkBite-1-2-in-Metal-PEX-Pipe-90-Degree-Bend-Support-23053/202032949 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/SharkBite-1-2-in-Metal-PEX-Pipe-90-Degree-Bend-Support-23053/202032949)
I found them in my HD across the aisle from the push-to-connect Sharkbite fittings.
Thanks to Tom V (lvmci) for the tip!
I've been following this thread closely, as I am considering replumbing Aesop's Tortoise's service bay - too many patches already.
FWIW & HTH. . .
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Pex bends nicely but that bend is pretty sweeping. Maybe that's my issue, I used zero sweeps and tons of elbows.
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One of the reasons to use Pex is not having any fittings in the line. My coach doesn't have Pex, because there wasn't any 24 years ago but there are no fittings except at the start and finish of each line. I don't think any of the coach builders use fittings in the lines, but some of them use to small a tubing and you can't get enough flow.
Jack
Quote from: blue_goose on January 14, 2015, 04:08:16 AM
One of the reasons to use Pex is not having any fittings in the line. My coach doesn't have Pex, because there wasn't any 24 years ago but there are no fittings except at the start and finish of each line. I don't think any of the coach builders use fittings in the lines, but some of them use to small a tubing and you can't get enough flow.
Jack
good point and precisely why I went with 3/4" main lines and 1/4" tee offs. Works well. Come visit and take a shower. You'll be amazed at our water pressure.
There are several different types of PEX tubing. PEX-A, PEX-B, and PEX-C. PEX-A is the most flexible while PEX-B is the most common. I think PEX-C is pretty rare. I used PEX-A in my bus since it is more flexible and can make tighter bends.
I use a couple of those 90 degree bend supports instead of elbows.
Belfert what's the difference?
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http://www.pexmall.com/types-of-pex-tubing (http://www.pexmall.com/types-of-pex-tubing)
Thanks
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